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[Biff Hardbody]

Got my Rocky Marciano DVD's! Been watching for the past 5 hours. Here are some things that ring out to me.

1) He uses his head better then any fighter I've seen. He actually uproots the other fighter beneath their chin by pressing forward and upward with his head. This is opposed to just smacking it foward. When he gets the guy up in the air, he pushes them into a corner or the ropes and pummels them. If he misses with the head, he uses his shoulders. Unique, brutal, and effective.

2) Don Cockell has huge fucking heart. I thought he was just some bum that Marciano beat down. How this guy took Marciano's barrage in the 8th round, I don't know. That was one of the most brutal beatdowns I've ever seen. As great a display of it is for Marciano's brutal effectiveeness, I was more impressed with Cockell's heart and toughness.

3) Walcott is a deceptive technician. I've heard him get put down before as a weak heavyweight champion, but I think he fared better against Marciano in their first fight then anyone else I've seen today. He had a few things going for him.

For one, he could get away from Marciano's clinches better then anyone else. He was really slick how he would roll away from Marcianos clinch and hit him as he moved off. Frankly, I didn't see anyone else deal with Marciano's bulling in and clinch better then Walcott. He could just roll away. He also used his shoulders and head movement to roll with the punches pretty damn well.

Finally, he was ballsy. He wasn't afraid to try and whip Marciano's ass when Rocky brought the fire.

4) From what I saw, I think Rocky used his clinch and bull in style best in the Layne fight. It was really different to watch. He just never gave Layne any room at all to do anything. Relentless fighter.

5) Rocky fights like a caveman. That right he lands on Ezzard Charles in slow motion, even with the grainy footage is devastating. Ezzard has such heart to get up from it. All those 50's fighters were tough as nails.

6) Although some people get up from Marciano's hits, most didn't. In fact, they looked dead. No movement, not even shaking. They just lay there. Brutal.

Great fights all around, a hell of a dvd collection. Get it here-

http://boxingvideos.net/DVDfights.asp

Maybe later I'll post more Marciano thoughts and some on the Bowe/Holyfield trilogy I got.

 

[sefskillz]

Wow, some really cool dvd sets I'd like to own on there.

Ali / Frazier trilogy
Amateur boxing collection (this is really awesome)
Marciano collection
Louis collection

They're kinda pricey but worth it at the same time. I'm really tempted to snag that amateur boxing collection one.

 

[Biff Hardbody]

I have the Ali/Frazier trilogy, and its my favorite ever. Ali/Frazier I is my favorite fight.

The guy also has allot of fights for sale that he can't list because of Don King productions. Just ask him for whateve you want. He's a cool guy. Gave me the Bowe/Holyfield fight for free because shipping took longer then expected.

Marciano collection is frigging awesome, man.

I'm getting the Louis collection soon. Hopefully some Willie Pep and the 1st Tyson/Holyfield fight.

 

[isamu]

No Tyson DVD collection?


OUTRAGE!

 

[J2 Cool]

http://www.fightsondvd.com/Tyson.htm

^^ Complete Tyson career minus possibly his latest stuff. 54 fights, 7 amateur

http://www.miketysonvideos.com/mike-tyson.htm

^^ This one says 64 Tyson fights at an actual set price of $200

 

[Takuan]

Pretty damned costly for bootleg dvds.

 

[Biff Hardbody]

Bootleg or not, they are awesome if you are a boxing fan. Especially since I haven't seen shit out there as far as boxing on DVD.

More thoughts...

I had to turn Bowe Holyfield off and put Marciano back on. It wasn't that the Bowe/Holyfield fights are bad, they are quite good. But, I found they lacked the intensity and aggression of the Marciano fights. He fights every round like its the last round.

His infighting is incredible. Better then what I have seen from any of the great infighters like Frazier or Tyson. Just a bull.

The Ali/Marciano computer fight is really well done. I thought it would be rather hokey at times, but its actually very real looking at times. I wouldn't be surprised if the reports of Marciano not pulling his body punches being true. The best inf ighter of all time vs the best out fighter of all time.

 

[isamu]

http://www.fightsondvd.com/Tyson.htm

^^ Complete Tyson career minus possibly his latest stuff. 54 fights, 7 amateur

http://www.miketysonvideos.com/mike-tyson.htm

^^ This one says 64 Tyson fights at an actual set price of $200

It appears the one from Fightsondvd.com is better, since it has a couple of documentaries and interviews, and that miketysonvideos.com one doesn't mention video quality at all, though there's about 10 or so more fights in that package than the Fightsondvd.com one. Only thing is I cannot find a price for the Fightsondvd.com DVD collection. He is charging $25 a pop for each dvd...and at 16 dvds that's like $400!!! Not that I wouldn't buy it, but I'm sure it's cheaper if you just buy the set.