Biggest downgrades from initial reveal?
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Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
WTF! Is the first screen a concept art or what? Haha.
Little Battlers
Um I think something's wrong with those screenshots. Second one looks like something that hasn't finished loading to me...
WeAreStarStuff
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Hasn't this photo been discredited several times?
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Red Steel!!!
Also Super Mario Sunshine went from 60fps to 30fps by the time the game shipped :/
Also Super Mario Sunshine went from 60fps to 30fps by the time the game shipped :/
no. the e3 build looked good. and the final game looked good, but it was still a downgrade.
Plenty of times, but people just keep trying to look cool by posting it over and over again....
Lasthope106
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Yes, I started playing this recently, and I noticed a few things that are bothering me after how great 2 was. Controlling Drake feels more "floaty" and I think the camera is pulled out more. His animations are also all over the place. I'm still fairly early in the game to declare it a major step-down from U2, but there are definitely things that make it seem like it was made by a more inexperienced team - don't know if that is the case. However, some of the graphics do look better, especially the face animation. A lot of the lighting and particle effects were almost TLOU level quality.
Halo 2
Because it ended up looking worse than the first game, trying to squeeze in too many effects.
Motor Storm target demo. It was CGI.
The E3 demonstration actually reminds me of Crysis 1.
Retail looks noticeably different but not significantly downgraded. That's on max settings of course. The console version isn't even close.
Nah, I just played Uncharted 3 and those scenes do look like that. It's strange though; those two scenes are easily the ugliest in the game, everything else is fantastic. It's especially noticeable in the Elena scene, where she looks very weird in that scene, but fine in the rest of the game.
You know that those are cutscenes and the Uncharted cutscenes are not real time, right?
There's no reason to "downgrade" a CG.
Hyperborean
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I distinctly remember the difference between screenshots for The Getaway on Ps2's reveal and final product. And remember the PS2 bullshit tech demos.
Really ?! I think you need to take a better look at the whole thread and you will find some nice surprise ...
Anyway there are a *lot* of downgrade, but for me, right now, Watch Dog is the number one if that footage comes from a PS4 or PC.
Windom Earle
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Forza5
Lasthope106
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I don't know how it had more effects. The lighting wasn't dynamic anymore in lots of places. The beginning level of Halo 1 had some great lighting. Nothing came close to that on Halo 2.
GamingIsDead
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I never understood why they did this, since the cutscenes are pre-rendered anyway.
well. ya. thats why its weird.
e3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvpu003drCk#t=1m18s
final game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnNTzl9608c#t=6m25s
why couldnt the cg look as good as that e3 video?
Metroid-Squadron
Banned
This is PS3 footage from TGS and it looks the same as the reveal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWI-TRZQpwI
I'm not too optimistic about the PC version.
PandyDandy
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Project Natal, lets scan some skateboards!!!
Portugeezer
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WeAreStarStuff
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That looks fantastic compared to how it looked on my PS3.
Raonak
Banned
That one was a weird one, since the uncharted cutscenes are prerendered. hardware or anything has no bearing on it. so why the changes? namely the lighting.
further evidence of U3 being rushed I'd say.
Couldn't? It's pre-rendered and they did it at E3. So framing it as "couldn't" just screams ill-informed.
It's the problem with these kinds of threads. Even artist motivated changes will be considered downgrades by some even in scenarios where the cost is the same as before.
These two bink-encoded videos take the same amount of resources to decode and display.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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Wasn't the "CG" all done in-engine though, but turned into a video-file only to prevent load times?
Probably change of locations.
Mr. Poolman
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well. it looks like the final build cinematic is ingame. and so maybe they didnt have enough time to do a nicely rendered video for the final build
Yeah it is. The character models in the cut scenes still look significantly better than the in-game models, but they're still running in real time.
0ptimusPayne
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Forza 5
Watching Halo 2's E3 demo, was actually better than playing the released campaign -_-"
I want to say Killzone 2, but Killzone 2 looked amazing
Motorstorm
Watching Halo 2's E3 demo, was actually better than playing the released campaign -_-"
I want to say Killzone 2, but Killzone 2 looked amazing
Motorstorm
Bump-mapping everywhere. They also lost the detail textures that were awesome in the first game. Even Anniversary Edition managed to look worse that the original, but that was because of terrible art.
0ptimusPayne
Member
This....I cried when they released that actual in-game trailer. Still think HL3's lighting is pretty cool though.
McFadge
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This is commonly thought, but you can skip any of the cutscenes and move straight into gameplay (though sometimes you'll find some textures streaming in).
I also used to think that that cutscenes were real-time in-engine but rendered out to a video file, but I recall a picture of a setup being posted that had 4 PS3s hooked together that was supposedly being used to render out the cutscenes. So the only thing I think we can say about them is that they're in-engine?
Yeah, and I think the game looks pretty much that good in reality, somethings look better, somethings look worse.
The gameplay is obviously different, but the cutscene from Chapter 12 that's in that first trailer is very much on par with the final version.
Reveal:
Final:
Tom Nook Sawyer
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Yeah, but I think that supports my point? The fact that the engine doesn't have to load a bunch of new assets just for a cutscene it what enables you to skip the cutscene and get right back to the game, isn't it?
Jules Coast
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I love and hate this thread.
This looks fake. I remember Uncharted 3 looking a lot better than what the pictures are showing. And don't remember any of this footage at E3... They showed the ship scene at E3.
Yes, possibly a million right now.
True be told, this is the reason Marketers only want to post Bullshots and Bulldemos. Otherwise the worst of the worst first images will be re-purposed to put down a game long after release.
Mise well post the E3-Beta Killzone Shadow Fall level and get it over with.