Sebastiano
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its a level 5 thing. they did it with their latest game yokai watch too
It was first announced for the PlayStation 3, the first screens of the 3DS version aren't like that.
Biggest downgrades from initial reveal?
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It was first announced for the PlayStation 3, the first screens of the 3DS version aren't like that.
I know this thread is primarily for imagery, but I think the pure amount of bullshit Peter Molyneux spouted about Fable deserves a mention. Talk about downgrades in every aspect of the game.
If I remember correctly he even claimed each individual scar would stay with you forever and your character would tan if left in the sun. Don't get me wrong, I love games like Fable, Black & White, etc. But it was impossible with Molyneux at the head to ever receive a product that wasn't cut down in ambition.
If I remember correctly he even claimed each individual scar would stay with you forever and your character would tan if left in the sun. Don't get me wrong, I love games like Fable, Black & White, etc. But it was impossible with Molyneux at the head to ever receive a product that wasn't cut down in ambition.
THEY ARE NOT LEGIT!
I've been saying that all along.
You guys are talking about pre-rendered FMV cutscenes. They are not indicative of realtime visual quality. I cannot imagine why people are discussing these changes for that reason.
The changes made are for artistic purposes not technical. You may not agree with the changes but that doesn't change the fact that they were never realtime!!
Not quite, it was first announced without a platform. The original screens were always presented as just concept renders.
the 8bit/NES style of new fez is way better.
travisbickle
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The Getaway had some of the most insane bullshottery.
Looks like Watchdogs PS4.
Coreda
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Just completed Fez. I remember coming across Fish's TIGSource OP of the very first static concept shot of the game, saying how he 'Photoshopped the hell out of it'.
Certainly came a long way.
This one really hurt
Can't really find them anymore, but basically the cloak effect was more of a dynamic camouflage. Probably not as functional as the invisibility effect that was in the final game, but it looked way cooler.
methane47
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Killzone 2 Looked/Looks absolutely amazing I dont think it was a HUGE downgrade.
EDIT: DAT POST HISTORY lol
Serious question - is "downgradeaton" really a term being used or was it supposed to be a typo?
Haunted
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UnrealEck
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Changes to the graphics engine made to increase performance, then they re-recorded the cutscenes in the updated engine, probably for consistancy would be a fair guess.
Wow, jesus.
And the fact that those are pre-rendered cutscenes doesn't help either.
Coreda
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Mmm... lol. frysquint.jpg
I think you are really wrong here. Pre record are choice because the hardware can't handle in real time the graphic. I find useless pared back something prerecord which can't handle to the hardware in real time in any case. What consistancy you missing in the gameplay graphic with better shadows or lightening in the cutscenes? Cutscenes are always better, even in real time.
thewhitehawk
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I can't wait for the next BIG downgrade that will make GAF lose their minds.
From this:
To this. AKA Twilight Princess graphics but on HD. Please understand!
*capture from Dolphin emulator.
This Watchdogs downgrade stuff made GAF develop some nice surgeon eyes.
Given how modern Zelda games are designed I don't think they would benefit immensely from immensely superior visuals. Their cartoonish visuals and limited-sized environments don't require a lot more graphical power than what we currently have, just creativity from the visual designers in my opinion.
Vulcano's assistant
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The one on top is basically TP but in HD already. Hopefully they stay away from that aesthetic. Seeing how Zelda never looked better than Mario on a technical side, we can expect its effects to look less impressive than Super Mario 3D World, but with better art direction.
Immaculate
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except the platform the game was on was unknown at its reveal until about a year later it was revealed again for the 3ds where it received a massive downgrade
I can't wait for the next BIG downgrade that will make GAF lose their minds.
From this:
To this. AKA Twilight Princess graphics but on HD. Please understand!
*capture from Dolphin emulator.
This Watchdogs downgrade stuff made GAF develop some nice surgeon eyes.
Wow, that Twilight Princess shot looks amazing.
Zelda games for never about the graphics and the art style they are going for does not even require the fidelity of a next-gen console, so I don't think anyone will cry foul when Zelda WiiU hits.
bigace33
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Absolutely...not
It did get a downgrade though... pretty sure Kojima said so himself.
Green Yoshi
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RieKG7pw6g8
Cool trailer, but it has almost nothing in common with the final game.
Cool trailer, but it has almost nothing in common with the final game.
Hey guise, remember this cool looking Dante we almost got?
It looks like an alternate outfit for Nier.
cyberheater
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Forza 5 on Xbox One. Those cardboard cut out spectators. What were they thinking. Just horrible.
Deep Down
I don't care what kind of lies you try to tell others and yourself here about it. I don't buy it. It's a HUGE difference
Just right down false advertising. Fucking disgusting.
From this
to this
NO FUCKING WAY?!?!
I remember seeing the first trailer and being really impressed with what it was doing. That's such a shame
jim2point0
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Older builds of the PS3 version had that lighting though. You can find all kinds of demos from back when they did the network test.
I hope it's still in the PC version, but at this point I'm not counting on it. They haven't said squat about the differences so far.
Markitron
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I'm shocked to see Uncharted 3 mentioned so many times. Easily the best looking game of the last console generation imo, and people are moaning about some pre-rendered cutscenes that may or may not have been downgraded?
Among the biggest downgrades though? I mean look at the this thread and what it is up against. This doesn't seem close to being in contention really.
To be fair though mods can make Crysis look like real life.
staticneuron
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They did mention it was real time but it wasn't gameplay. The Videos QD does are real time as well. The games never look as good because there are more to process in an actual game.
No, people are comparing real time to in game. I am sure Kojima never said that was how gameplay would actually look.
People really need to remove real time and target renders from this discussion.
LukasTaves
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Dead Rising (Xbox 360)
The textures were crystal clear and there were way more zombies, among other differences.
DR received quite an upgrade from the initial reveal. The reveal looked Xbox 1.5, the final version is much better.
I can't wait for the next BIG downgrade that will make GAF lose their minds.
From this:
To this. AKA Twilight Princess graphics but on HD. Please understand!
*capture from Dolphin emulator.
This Watchdogs downgrade stuff made GAF develop some nice surgeon eyes.
You'd think GAF is more informed than the typical video game consumer. One is clearly not a game and is only a tech demo running with no AI/physics and interactivity. I would hope, at the very least, that people can discern tech demo's from "bullshotting."
It would still be disappointing considering Nintendo's track record of beating their tech demos with their actual games.
FuriousDark
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That's all you needed, sir. No examples necessary. Molyneux is the king of con-men.
The pics I posted had to be FMV or workstation because they were much superior to what we had on the 360.
The textures were photorealistic and there were zombies packed together.
I know there is a trailer for it too, but I couldn't locate it. I remember this scene specifically
where the camera pans up and you see a mile of zombies... we only got a few yards of zombies on the 360 version.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Hey guise, remember this cool looking Dante we almost got?
Instead we got
er .. personal preferences ????
DMC4 Dante is the best Dante imo.
LukasTaves
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I could only find in low quality, but I remember very vividly back them: The final game had a tremendous increase in poly counts, texture quality, shaders, lighting, animation. And extra effects like some minor fluid simulation, motion blur and depth of field that were completely absent before.
The only time where there seems to be many zombies is in the parking lot, that area in the final game also is quite packed with zombies (though it doesn't seem to match the reveal count)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F78EygSnxVQ
Edit: In higher res shots from the reveal you can see how even the texture is actually pretty bad:
The only time where there seems to be many zombies is in the parking lot, that area in the final game also is quite packed with zombies (though it doesn't seem to match the reveal count)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F78EygSnxVQ
Edit: In higher res shots from the reveal you can see how even the texture is actually pretty bad: