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[saintjules]

Is this permanent?

It says discount, not permanent.

 

[Astray]

You can't really say no killer app and then proceed to name two killer apps. Both are 10+ million sellers and among the best selling games in modern times. There aren't a lot of franchises higher than these.

Death Stranding might be a 2nd installment but it also had over 20 million players, meaning it has even higher potential to sell more than the first game's 10 million sold. It's almost certainly going to review really well based on previews.

Ghost of Yotei is a second installment, but they've ensured you don't need to play the first game in order to play this. That's the value of not doing Ghost of Tsushima 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Sony might have one of their first original IP that can be evergreen in Ghost.

But my actual point here was that the Switch 2 will sell out at launch, and there will be people who can't get one. These people might see the PS5 price and decide to buy the PS5.

When I say killer app, I mean something that will take the market by storm, we're talking the upper echelon of IPs here, your Mario Karts (which is coming out this year and will sell gangbusters, $80 pricetag or not), your GTAs etc.

DS2 and Ghost are both a step or two below that, especially DS2, which is explicitly a sequel to a Kojima arthouse game to begin with, that 20 million player figure is the lifetime ceiling for DS2, not the sales floor (because many of those players could have bounced off the 1st game for any reason). Maybe I'm wrong and it pulls a Witcher 3, but I think it's too out there to be that. Will definitely sell PS5s tho.

Ghost has higher potential because it's not necessarily linked to the 1st one (meaning if I skipped Tsushima or didn't finish it, I can still jump on here and have a good experience), but again, this is a year in which a new Mario Kart is coming out.

We'll find out what happens after the 90 day pause, but my guess is that tensions will be brought down as people look for an exit ramp. If this happens, yeah, I don't expect the PS5 to increase in price. If tensions were to rise though and tariffs end up back at 145%, yeah, we're not going to see Sony eat those long term even for market share. I'd expect even Microsoft would either discontinue the XBS or raise prices further.

My biggest issue was the narrative that because Microsoft did it, Sony would also do it. The fact that the media especially ignored the obviously different roadmap and the stockpiling and the duplication of supply chain and just resorted to SonyToo was pathetic.

We're going to see over the next two months how Sony and Microsoft's marketshares diverge. I almost wish we didn't have this discount period because we could have seen more naturally what people would have done. Fortunately, only a few days of May will be covered by this, but it's enough to poison the well.

Oh yeah Microsoft doing it doesn't necessarily have any bearing on whether Sony will do it or not (or when).

 

[Mibu no ookami]

When I say killer app, I mean something that will take the market by storm, we're talking the upper echelon of IPs here, your Mario Karts (which is coming out this year and will sell gangbusters, $80 pricetag or not), your GTAs etc.

DS2 and Ghost are both a step or two below that, especially DS2, which is explicitly a sequel to a Kojima arthouse game to begin with, that 20 million player figure is the lifetime ceiling for DS2, not the sales floor (because many of those players could have bounced off the 1st game for any reason). Maybe I'm wrong and it pulls a Witcher 3, but I think it's too out there to be that. Will definitely sell PS5s tho.

Ghost has higher potential because it's not necessarily linked to the 1st one (meaning if I skipped Tsushima or didn't finish it, I can still jump on here and have a good experience), but again, this is a year in which a new Mario Kart is coming out.

There are only so many games that have sold 10+ million copies. I don't think every game has to be Mario Kart or GTA to drive interest/demand in a console. Those are system sellers for sure, but not all games have to be system sellers. Ghost of Tsushima sold better than any of the original God of War games, but it didn't sell more than God of War 2018 or Ragnarok. It's really impossible to say what Ghost of Yotei will do. You can similarly look at Zelda games by sales, and Zelda used to be a game that really struggled to break higher thresholds despite being considered in the pantheon of Nintendo big sellers. It was not in the same conversation as say Mario or Pokemon. That really changed with Breath of The Wild.

GTA1 and 2 were not the sellers that GTA3 was and GTA3 was not the seller that GTA5 was.

Resident Evil remakes are selling more now than the original games sold.

Franchises have the ability to grow and improve in sales. Both Ghost and DS are in unique situations where they came out and they were kind of seminole moments for both studios. GoT was a total departure of what Sucker Punch was really known for and DS was the first game out of Kojima Productions post Konami. There is massive potential in expanding a formula you've created for yourself once you have a framework. We saw that with Metal Gear Solid and again with Metal Gear Solid 2.

But maybe most importantly, neither DS or GoY need to outsell Mario Kart in order for the PS5 to have a solid sales year.

Oh yeah Microsoft doing it doesn't necessarily have any bearing on whether Sony will do it or not (or when).

People may have quite a bit of egg on their face come Monday.

 

[Elios83]

Lowering the price on a system that has nothing to play nor look forward to.

All i want from Sony at this point is a dualsense with hall effect sticks. That's where i am with Sony this gen.

Given that it's the system where you can play all the games that are released by all publishers in the world except Nintendo, probably it's time to change hobby.

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

Given that it's the system where you can play all the games that are released by all publishers in the world except Nintendo, probably it's time to change hobby.

Lots of games use UE5, and the system can't handle the engine. They all look blurry n fuzzy, while also being stuck at 30fps, or have massive fps drops under 60fps. So not sure why you'd want me to change hobby, i own the damn thing, and want to sell it as quickly as possible.

 

[damidu]

Lots of games use UE5, and the system can't handle the engine. They all look blurry n fuzzy, while also being stuck at 30fps, or have massive fps drops under 60fps. So not sure why you'd want me to change hobby, i own the damn thing, and want to sell it as quickly as possible.

low effort trolling, sit down, F

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

low effort trolling, sit down, F

The fuck? Do you want me to find a list of UE5 titles running on the ps5? You obviously don't follow DF, and it kinda shows.

 

[damidu]

The fuck? Do you want me to find a list of UE5 titles running on the ps5? You obviously don't follow DF, and it kinda shows.

god, just shup up. UE5 is a mess on basically anything including 4k$+ PCs

 

[DeepEnigma]

You obviously don't follow DF, and it kinda shows.

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

god, just shup up. UE5 is a mess on basically anything including 4k$+ PCs

You can lower settings that eat most frames to increase performance. You can also outperform shit optimization with high end specs. You can't do anything on the ps5. So stop raging, take your meds, and think what you're typing next time.

 

[GHG]

Oh god, another whack a mole alt is at it again.

 

[Elios83]

Lots of games use UE5, and the system can't handle the engine. They all look blurry n fuzzy, while also being stuck at 30fps, or have massive fps drops under 60fps. So not sure why you'd want me to change hobby, i own the damn thing, and want to sell it as quickly as possible.

You were talking about not having games or things to look forward to, now you're changing topic.
You're not a good troll.

 

[Unknown?]

You can lower settings that eat most frames to increase performance. You can also outperform shit optimization with high end specs. You can't do anything on the ps5. So stop raging, take your meds, and think what you're typing next time.

Nice Alt! Be more subtle though, we can tell you're trolling on purpose.

Badlucktroll wanna give him some pointers?

 

[nial]

Oh god, another whack a mole alt is at it again.

Go to the Stellar Blade 2 thread for a pleasant surprise.

 

[Roman Empire]

I'm probably going to grab a new dualsense or two.

 

[Karim]

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Thread 'Current circumstances seems to be positioning PS5 to catch it's 2nd Wind in the next few years & become Sony's 2nd best selling console.'

May 12, 2025

$80 Nintendo Switch 2 games & Xbox Series consoles prices going well about PS5 prices ( For now anyways).

Sure it's likely that Sony will follow suit but thanks to the size of PS5's user base they shouldn't have to raise the price of software. Also thanks to the rate that PS5 is selling it's actually worth it to do another die shrink to keep the manufacturing cost down.

I guess we will learn what path PlayStation will take in the upcoming financial report.


Do you think PlayStation will use this chance to further grow their user-base or will they jump on the $80 Game Train ?

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[onQ123]

Yes I know my wife left me because she was jealous

 

[Unknown?]

Right after their main competition raises prices, they drop theirs for a promotion. Genius!

 

[ComputerBlue]

I hope Spider-Man 2 finally goes on sale for a decent price, I'd like to play it but I'm not paying what Sony is asking for it.

 

[Rivdoric]

Can we increase the price more so we can dip it further ?

 

[damidu]

You can lower settings that eat most frames to increase performance. You can also outperform shit optimization with high end specs. You can't do anything on the ps5. So stop raging, take your meds, and think what you're typing next time.

nah you can't outrun shader compilation stutter, a pc exclusive. lol
troll harder, you are embarrassing

 

[Dorfdad]

It's an attempt to tempt anyone contemplating a switch 2 to make the jump before the Switch 2 launches a week later! That's all it is, timed for like 30 days.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

Nice Alt! Be more subtle though, we can tell you're trolling on purpose.

Badlucktroll wanna give him some pointers?

Hendrick's and Aces High vibes (the old Aces high), dude's gotta be an alt, just a few months old account acting like he's been here for ages, posting inflammatory stuff just to rile people up.

 

[Unknown?]

Hendrick's and Aces High vibes (the old Aces high), dude's gotta be an alt, just a few months old account acting like he's been here for ages, posting inflammatory stuff just to rile people up.

Wow, I forgot about that dude. ROFL, he's in hiding.

 

[kazuyamishima]

Can we increase the price more so we can dip it further ?

It was half true, only the digital model saw an increase in price in Europe.

 

[jm89]

It's an attempt to tempt anyone contemplating a switch 2 to make the jump before the Switch 2 launches a week later! That's all it is, timed for like 30 days.

Switch 2 launch is just coincidence.

Sony have a days of play sales this time of the year and put nearly every hardware for playstation on sale.

 

[jm89]

 

[mayham2199]

Lowering the price on a system that has nothing to play nor look forward to.

All i want from Sony at this point is a dualsense with hall effect sticks. That's where i am with Sony this gen.

Maybe they are trying to sell to people who play more than just first party games? Focusing on the majority of gamers makes more sense than the guy who only buys ps for exclusives.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

A lot of Concord and Marathon controllers need to be moved out.

 

[murkinwaters]

You are a full out shill. period. land "the killing blow" ? you too stupid to realize what harm that would do to gaming? PS is giving NO discounts. they will in fact increase their cost as SOON as they think they are the monoply. you need to get the fuck out of here with your BS shilling. this is a tale as old as time. and you are a plant

 

[IDKFA]

Lol. Sony just raised the prices. They then discount the raised prices to make it look like a good deal.

 

[Klayzer]

A lot of Concord and Marathon controllers need to be moved out.

Complains about warriors, but acts like one constantly. The duality.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Complains about warriors, but acts like one constantly. The duality.

It was a joke little buddy, is there even a Marathon controller? At ease.

 

[murkinwaters]

Complains about warriors, but acts like one constantly. The duality.

you both do. it aint hard to search histories. roughly 90% of you are transparent as a sheet of glass when examined. you dont love gaming in general. you love your brands. dipshits

 

[murkinwaters]

EviLore why do you allow this? I remember the accusations, as do you. when did this place become an echo chamber?

 

[Giallo Corsa]

It was a joke little buddy, is there even a Marathon controller? At ease.

I see you're back to your petty "little buddy" bullshit.

"At ease", lmao, told you before, you of all people in here should just stay quiet , again, ZERO self awareness my guy, how did you last in here all these years I'll never understand, easily one of the top 3 green warriors in these forums.

 

[GHG]

 

[Giallo Corsa]

These recent alt accounts are really something else eh ?

My bet is on CatLady this time

 

[GHG]

These recent alt accounts are really something else eh ?

My bet is on CatLady this time

Honestly it's unreal. And then they have the audacity to call for the boss while calling people "dipshits".

Couldn't make this shit up. Sad state of affairs.

 

[Fake]

Who needs Netflix series when you have neoGAF?

 

[Unknown?]

Lol. Sony just raised the prices. They then discount the raised prices to make it look like a good deal.

It's still cheaper than the original prices and far better than raising prices and not doing any discount again like its competition.

 

[IDKFA]

It's still cheaper than the original prices and far better than raising prices and not doing any discount again like its competition.

Sony have raised the cost of their consoles twice now this gen. Microsoft have also raised their prices. We'll probably see Nintendo apply variable pricing to their hardware as well (increase the price during Christmas or some other BS)

This is the first console generation where the consoles have increased in price mid gen. I'm tired of these mega companies pleading poverty as a justification to increase prices, but in reality their making record profits and just want to bleed the public dry.

Fuck them.

Oh, and I may be drunk, but I'd say the same thing if I was sober.

 

[//DEVIL//]

EviLore why do you allow this? I remember the accusations, as do you. when did this place become an echo chamber?

He called the boss even though he was dead wrong, just to get banned. The level of stupidity is really something else. I am pretty sure he is crying right now super pissed about it.

mfer got his butt hurt and fked at the same time. can't get any worse lol.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

I see you're back to your petty "little buddy" bullshit.

"At ease", lmao, told you before, you of all people in here should just stay quiet , again, ZERO self awareness my guy, how did you last in here all these years I'll never understand, easily one of the top 3 green warriors in these forums.

You'll be ok too, my friend. Try to remember that it is just a joke. If I made butt hurt replies to every Xbox joke on GAF, I wouldn't have time to do anything else in life.

Glad to hear I made your top 3 I guess. Who else is in my esteemed trifecta?

 

[onQ123]

The hell did I miss?

They must have bet some money on the Sonytoo horse

 

[ReBurn]

I wonder if they will be discounting PS+ again?

 

[Giallo Corsa]

You'll be ok too, my friend. Try to remember that it is just a joke. If I made butt hurt replies to every Xbox joke on GAF, I wouldn't have time to do anything else in life.

Glad to hear I made your top 3 I guess. Who else is in my esteemed trifecta?

Pretty convenient to hide behind that excuse, wouldn't you agree ?

Also, you always make "butthurt replies" to everything Xbox related so, again, the lack of self awareness is incredibly ironic.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Pretty convenient to hide behind that excuse, wouldn't you agree ?

Also, you always make "butthurt replies" to everything Xbox related so, again, the lack of self awareness is incredibly ironic.

 

[AutumnLeaves]

You obviously don't follow DF, and it kinda shows.

Why follow that garbage website?

 

[Klayzer]

It was a joke little buddy, is there even a Marathon controller? At ease.

Zero awareness. I too, was just joking