A year ago? People were defending him as an ally just a couple of days ago after casually using the n-word?
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Bill Maher on bringing Milo back, Le Penn, Vaccinations, Islam.....
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Instead of swimming with the tide, it doesn't take much more than a Google search and fifteen minutes to see Marine Le Penn is a fucking neonationalist. Yaknow, the same breed Trump is?
I find that bit most alarming, because it shows a real lack of interest and of inquiry. From a dude who did a New Rules on knowledge, he sure seems uninterested to engage with it...
I find that bit most alarming, because it shows a real lack of interest and of inquiry. From a dude who did a New Rules on knowledge, he sure seems uninterested to engage with it...
It's how you keep your fanbase that expects you to be a Clarkson-esque ponce.
The, "oh I'm old and not understanding and that's my right" schtick is old and tired, but god damn if there isn't a big demographic of people who will stick with it because, internally, it mirrors how they feel.
There's a lot of, "how do I keep the extreme right and the extreme left watching my show at the same time?" in Bill Mahar.
A year ago? Man, people defending Maher's trashcan-ass in this very thread.
That's not being useless, that's being about as useful as a pedophile into a nursery.
Maher is an even bigger piece of shit than conservatives. What a surprise.
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Yes please.
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Yes please.
RPGCrazied
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Why won't HBO let this guy go, specially after his use of the N word? Toss him. I'm sure you could play Game of Thrones reruns and they would get better ratings then him.
Muffin1611
Banned
His mind is so open that it gets contaminated by bullshit
Dream scenario. Let's start organizing our prayer circle now for this.
I've tried to appreciate Maher's outside the box mindset over the years, but too many of his opinions are what I'd consider radical and on the wrong side. Before the Affleck episode, I found a lot of episodes really worth watching (particularly when he was still doing Politically Incorrect, and even then, it was mostly due to the guests -- not him), but from then onward he's hit more and more stumbling blocks, falling in my favor each time. I'll still catch clips on youtube or maybe catch an episode if it looks particularly titillating, but I'd rather HBO move on. They can find much better left-leaning hosts for a show of similar nature.
And yeah, I know you can go on youtube and find older clips from politically incorrect where he says outrageous things. That's very en vogue to do on the topic of Maher now. But prior to a lot of these recent incidents, unless you watched every episode you'd probably not know he said some of these things. I certainly didn't.
Sunster
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This is from a Pew Research poll. There's not a percentage given for total majority, but you can imagine it would be close to half with these numbers.
Here's the full article: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/
Well Pew conducted a survey on it:
Since hundreds of millions of Muslims live in Indonesia that's a quite a chunk already.
My question is what version, if you will, that actually entails, because if you ask Americans if they want Christian laws ruling on things like prostitution, abortion and contraceptive use you'd probably get a few interesting responses. Likewise, I'd be curious if these responses meant biblical/Quran-like punishments alongside the "crimes".
The whole report is rather interesting in that many Islamic countries are themselves very worried about Islamic extremism at home, and that Muslim Americans are quite like their Christian counterparts in some respects
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/
Still, support this high for religious laws is ughhhhhhhh.
EDIT: Blister
furthermore, sharia law doesn't necessarily equal stonings, lashings and burkas. It's different in different countries. that's why the term shouldn't be as buzzy as it is.
LePen is literally the only French politician who supported Trump's campaign last year!
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
Banned
Maher: How can a woman rape a man?
Video also shows Maher is pro pedophilia when it's an older woman with a teenage boy.
Applies to most of american liberalism.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/friday-cable-ratings-june-2-2017/
Still highest on
Making good money for HBO. The N word thing is, by far, not the most inflammatory thing he's ever said or will say, and honestly, it's really more due to the nature of television SAP that he had to apologize, opposed to how he really feels.
But yeah, as with most things, the answer is
EdibleKnife
Member
Forgot about this too. Dude is not a worthwhile voice.
GoldenEye 007
Member
Not sure if he's on the left. He's a self-professed libertarian. Which basically means a republican who likes weed and I guess doesn't mind gay marriage.
You want him to run for presidency? I mean that's the Apex right now for old rich racist white guy.
If the HBO executives had a single brain among them they'd be begging Jon Stewart on hand and knee to take over the show as we speak.
We call this the Joe Rogan Complex
It's buzzy because people immediately associate it with violence, but when using a generic term like "laws based on Christian teachings" in the west and polling people, I'd like to see what their response would be.
cloudburst
Banned
I guess I can agree with you there. I don't agree with Bill all the time, but I do expect him to ask hard questions otherwise why bring Milo at all? You make a good point, but to the others: I don't think Bill Maher is an islamaphobe. Everyone who criticizes Islam is given that label these days. Criticizing a religion/ideology is not the same as being xenophobic.
I mean, I bet those calls are being made. Makes me wonder how much Stewert wants to work with them after his last show fell apart. Granted, the circumstances are different, but still...Stewert might be the one without confidence in HBO.
excelsiorlef
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As I said he prides himself on helping crazy conservatives get a jump start on their careers for some reason... probably because the damage they do isn't to people like him
It's clear he wants to actively help Milo be a media "star" again
Because Maher sucks.
Maher is patting himself on the back for Kellyanne "alternative facts' Conway, and Ann "women shouldn't be allowed to vote' Coulter.
So he described the plot of this movie 20 years ago
Or the South Park Episode with Ike and his teacher. And this is all so terrible because Maher said it 20 years ago.
GoldenEye 007
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So he described the plot of this movie 20 years ago
Or the South Park Episode with Ike and his teacher. And this is all so terrible because Maher said it 20 years ago.
Not sure if you understand South Park? The message certainly wasn't that it was ok...
Crossing Eden
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RumbleHumble
Banned
Whole lot of Republicans thinking we should make Christianity the national religion:
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_National_22415.pdf
Don't see Maher getting upset about that anytime soon.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_National_22415.pdf
Don't see Maher getting upset about that anytime soon.
The South Park nice meme is from that episode. And again, it is a 20 year old video.
FinalStageBoss
Banned
Bill Maher is a huge piece of shit... Shocking.
Can't believe this dude still has a job after casually throwing out the N word.
Can't believe this dude still has a job after casually throwing out the N word.
Miles Quaritch
Member
His reason for wanting to bring Milo back makes no sense.
I keep seeing this concept of an ally pop up in Bill Maher threads. He's just somebody you watch on TV. Why are people making up relationships that never existed, creating expectations based off that made up relationship, and then holding it against them? It's absurd.
CopperPuppy
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Ampersands
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Never liked the guy and glad I have a solid set of reasons not to now. Should've been fired after he said the n-word.
Lightning_Roller
Banned
Seriously, it astounds me that people are defending this sack of trash. Fuck off, Maher.
excelsiorlef
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Have a link to prove he thinks differently now?
That still doesn't mean that they support it. The Niiiice meme is society's problematic reaction. Kyle fights the entire episode to show how wrong it is. But idiots just latch onto the Niiiice meme.
Lord Frieza
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The highlighted quotes paint the worst bits, but it really doesn't do justice to the article as a whole. The way it's written there's all kinds of subtle things about how much of an asshole Maher apparently was to the interviewer. Like, read this shit:
I dont even want to defend the guy.... but
It makes no sense that his explanation doesn't make sense to you. Trying to reason with people you disagree with, along with being an arrogant mostly uninformed asshole, is more or less what Maher has been his whole career.
EdibleKnife
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If Maher has changed his views on pedophilic relationships between an adult woman and underaged boy, he's free to mention it. It was an insane & gross thing to support before and there's little reason for viewers to forgive him for it just because "he said it 20 years ago"
Thought you knew that the Jon Stewart thing had a fall out due to format and timing issues. There's a post about somewhere on the OT and it can be more than a month old. HBO was trying.
RustyNails
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Correct. The part of law that deals with punishment is specifically called Hudud Law. Shariah itself is not a book of laws, but a framework of Islamic jurispudence and throught. Hudud applies very narrowly to Crimi al penal code, and that too is discouraged from within the Islamic texts itself. Hudud itself is such a small part of Shariah framework that jurists often wrote books on Shariah with big chapters devoted to dealing with personal hygiene,finance, inheritance, marriage, divorce, and prayer rituals (all huge parts of Shariah) than they did on Hudud ordinances. Looking at the Pew charts without knowledge of what Shariah is can lead to outbursts from people like Maher who choose to only see the surface because it confirms their worldviews.
People often think Shariah Law is like the 10 Commandments when its anything but.
GoldenEye 007
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But you realize a meme out of context does not mean that's what the overall point of the episode was, right? It was a commentary on how society views rape when it is the woman doing the raping.
It also included Ike being kidnapped and the teacher trying to get him to commit suicide with her. Does that mean that's ok too?
So yeah, not sure if you get how South Park generally works.
People who criticize religions wholesale as if there aren't dozens of sects/denominations (especially when it comes to religions like Christianity and Islam) usually belie the fact that people criticizing them have no depth of knowledge of the variety of beliefs.
People "criticizing" Islam should really be "criticizing" Wahhabism, but they don't know the what the hell Wahhabism is because their rudimentary understanding of Islam is so cursory at best that they don't understand that Islam is not a monolith.