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Bioshock Infinite | Official Spoiler Thread |
- Thread starter BruceLeeRoy
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I did a quick search but couldn't find anything...did anybody else have Elizabeth's brooch/pin/whatever change at the end of the game? I chose the bird for her, and during the second time they were in the boat together, suddenly she was wearing the cage. I replayed the ending a third time and made sure I got a good look at the brooch/pin/whatever in each scene, and once again, only during the second boat ride was she wearing the cage. Anyone else have this happen to them? I'm thinking it's a glitch, but with this game, anything is possible. Playing on the PC version, btw.
Jibbajabbawockky
Member
Huh... I recognized that Elizabeth lost the brooch all together during the end when you have the multiple Elizabeths. I also picked the bird at the beginning of the game but didn't notice if it changed to a cage during the second boat trip. I'll have to check...
ShipTheCheese
Member
A colleague of mine was disappointed in the game and compared the ending to that of Mass Effect 3.
I just shook my head and walked away. No point in arguing that.
I just shook my head and walked away. No point in arguing that.
Infinite is what ME3's head writer wanted but failed to accomplish: a story that was satisfying but full of room for speculation.
The One Who Knocks
Member
Honestly, I had more difficulty with the ghost fights on hard mode than 1999 mode. If you enter the cemetary (and subsequent areas) with the correct equipment, you won't have a problem. But if you enter low on ammunition, without salts, the wrong gear or with guns that aren't the carbine, sniper or hand cannon, you can be in considerable trouble. This increases drastically if you focused on upgrading all of the Vigors and ignored the weapon upgrades but, by that point, hadn't upgraded Charge. It becomes an endurance test as, on hard mode and 1999 mode, she has an extremely large amount of health and there are a huge amount of minions while dealing a large amount of damage.
Carbine/Sniper/Hand cannon with upgrades and/or an upgraded charge with brittle skin (and fire/possess/shock gear) make the fight very easy, provided you enter with salt/ammo. If you don't enter with either of those (or you don't know how effective Charge is), or with almost no ammo, then prepare for a ridiculously frustrating test of endurance (this becomes infinitely worse if you make the mistake of entering with a pistol low on ammo and the crank gun with 30 bullets).
The last fight can actually be extremely simple in the same way. If you have the right items, you can finish it with almost no challenge. An upgraded sniper, carbine and hand cannon severely help you in combat, upgraded crows allows you to easily manage the human enemies, upgraded "return to sender" allows you to stand in front of the blue thing (?) and absorb the bullets and throw them at people, Winter Shield allows you to jump on and off the rails constantly to have infinite life forever, Overkill assists in crowd control, the melee possession hat allows once more assists in crowd control (it saves salt too since you don't need to possess people normally) and brittle skin makes skyline strikes/normal melee followed by weapons do even more damage (this can be exploited even more with Wintershield). As a result, you can finish the entire fight with minimal challenge and minimal health lost. The 'problem' is that this is all gear/item/upgrade dependant. If you enter with different gear, or use different combinations, you can make the fight much more difficult.
EDIT:
Nope, the Luteces need to scare Booker, hence the body and notes because otherwise Booker may not be adaquetly frightened and could flee to Paris with Elizabeth (he even mentions that they aren't the sort of people you want to cross). Comstock gave a note ordering the lighthouse keeper to murder Booker (visible on the map) so the lighthouse keeper became a problem. Murdering him isn't a problem to the male Lutece because he wishes to reset the timeline (and thus he'll have never been killed in the first place) and the female Lutece wouldn't care either way (since her nihilistic beliefs are repeatedly mentioned and are a significant part of her character).
Could be because that choice is a variable. It one universe you kill him, in another you don't.
Finished this last night, so awesome. Weirdly enough I realised that you're Comstock the moment I walked in to his room on the airship. I took my time with the game and I'm pretty sure I found almost all of the voice recordings so understanding the whole ending wasn't so though, for me at least.
Great OP btw, helped me confirm most of the stuff I got from the ending. Also, this got a well deserved nod in PC Gamer's ending discussion article
( http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/04/04/bioshock-infinite-ending-explained/ )
Great OP btw, helped me confirm most of the stuff I got from the ending. Also, this got a well deserved nod in PC Gamer's ending discussion article
( http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/04/04/bioshock-infinite-ending-explained/ )
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Deleted member 80556
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I just realized: When you drink that poison to get the magnetic shield, Robert Lutece says that he's surprised that he didn't die.
Imagine just how many times Booker died for drinking that in other dimensions!
Imagine just how many times Booker died for drinking that in other dimensions!
Also, this got a well deserved nod in PC Gamer's ending discussion article
Yessss
Get dat promo GAF.
Dragon1893
Member
The ending is full of beautiful scenes, I can't stop thinking about this game and how much I loved the characters, the story and setting. I have a big backlog but I'm itching to play it again.
Haunted
Member
Yes.
The tech. It also caused problems for the workers. The tears themselves are harmless.
Assuming you don't lose part of your body.
In the same boat. I just want to do stuff in the world. Game is so much better paced than bioshock 1.
The Elite
BOSS
Mass Effect 3 ending Spoilers:
I actually think that ME3 may have been trying to play with the same concept of choice, or the lack thereof, with the ending.
Despite the hundreds of different choices players would make during the Mass Effect Trilogy the final choices are limited due to the massive and overwhelming odds that you are faced with. You can make a ton of right decisions and do so much to prepare yet when you're faced with an overwhelming force on the scale of what you encounter in Mass Effect 3, your choices are always going to be ultimately limited.
I know, I'm making the ME3 ending sound a lot more clever than it actually was but I think it works when looked at in a very different light. The execution was poor however.
Despite the hundreds of different choices players would make during the Mass Effect Trilogy the final choices are limited due to the massive and overwhelming odds that you are faced with. You can make a ton of right decisions and do so much to prepare yet when you're faced with an overwhelming force on the scale of what you encounter in Mass Effect 3, your choices are always going to be ultimately limited.
I know, I'm making the ME3 ending sound a lot more clever than it actually was but I think it works when looked at in a very different light. The execution was poor however.
The tech. It also caused problems for the workers. The tears themselves are harmless.
Assuming you don't lose part of your body.
Ha very true. I figured it was the tech but just wanted to be sure. Thanks.
Hope that's not a spoiler. I have yet play that.
Hey dude, just use spoiler tags. I get that it's a spoiler thread, but it's a thread for Bioshock, not Mass Effect.
In case you don't know, the tag is
[/ spoiler] but without the space after the "/"
Better not be. I planned on playing it this summer.
This game was really beatiful! During the first two hours I spent a huge chunk on investigating my surroundings!
I enjoyed this game far more than the first two games. I really disliked the combat in the first game, but this was one really nice and the experience was certainly a lengthy one.
However, I thought that the ending (while clever) was still a bit abrupt.
It felt little rushed; a quick change to black and the credits start to roll.
Eh, I still think it was pretty clever.
Nevertheless this is certainly a fantastic game. I especially liked Fink's industry.
Perhaps I shall give it another try in the not so distant future.
I enjoyed this game far more than the first two games. I really disliked the combat in the first game, but this was one really nice and the experience was certainly a lengthy one.
However, I thought that the ending (while clever) was still a bit abrupt.
It felt little rushed; a quick change to black and the credits start to roll.
Eh, I still think it was pretty clever.
Nevertheless this is certainly a fantastic game. I especially liked Fink's industry.
Perhaps I shall give it another try in the not so distant future.
The Elite
BOSS
Wasn't sure whether we needed to bother tagging ME3 spoilers. I did it just for you though.
I mentioned because I myself haven't played it yet, and I'm sure I'm not the only person. It's usually better to err on the side of caution, because it's easy to just mouse over spoilers if you're interested, but it's incredibly difficult to unremember something you accidentally read
Thanks
Is it dated gameplay-wise? I plan on playing it someday, but I think I blew my quota on dated games with Deus EX.
MMBosstones86
Member
Just finished last night. Wow. That was some kind of mindfuckery. The last quarter of the game is a giant whirlwind of information, kind of wish it was paced a little better (although its very hard to complain about).
Story was amazing, really enjoyed seeing Liz interact with the enviornment.
Combat was decent enough. I require tears and skylines in every game now...really takes things to another level. Only combat complaint I have is near the end where foot soldiers basically become walking tanks. Seriously took about 10 RPG shots to take down one dude, bit much.
LOVE the OP, really helped explain the gaps I had in the story (god damn Voxphones cutting off).
Fantastic game. Need to let it simmer before going for another play through. This definitely made me want to buy the season pass though.
One complaint about the ending : I really wish Liz and Booker would've figured everything out at the same time, as apposed to Liz being a time lord and telling Booker whats up. Lost a little bit of character interaction imo.
Story was amazing, really enjoyed seeing Liz interact with the enviornment.
Combat was decent enough. I require tears and skylines in every game now...really takes things to another level. Only combat complaint I have is near the end where foot soldiers basically become walking tanks. Seriously took about 10 RPG shots to take down one dude, bit much.
LOVE the OP, really helped explain the gaps I had in the story (god damn Voxphones cutting off).
Fantastic game. Need to let it simmer before going for another play through. This definitely made me want to buy the season pass though.
One complaint about the ending : I really wish Liz and Booker would've figured everything out at the same time, as apposed to Liz being a time lord and telling Booker whats up. Lost a little bit of character interaction imo.
Jibbajabbawockky
Member
Just went back and checked in my game (on PC) and Elizabeth's pin stayed the same (bird) all throughout the ending. It just disappears after you go through that last lighthouse and you get the multiple Elizabeths.
Great OP btw, helped me confirm most of the stuff I got from the ending. Also, this got a well deserved nod in PC Gamer's ending discussion article
I think that article gets to one of my issues with the ending:
Yeah, just like the PC Gamer article mentioned, the ending kind of fell a little flat for me since I already felt like I had put the pieces together regarding Booker=Comstock and Elizabeth=Anna, so the cold, matter of fact way Elizabeth basically breaks the fourth wall and is just matter of fact explaining everything wasn't very engaging. It was interesting but it wasn't really making me feel anything. Especially when you build such an emotional bond with her character throughout the game, it kind of falls apart at the end when Elizabeth becomes a walking codex.
Something a little more emotionally driven and character driven as opposed to plot mechanics driven would have likely resonated a little more for me, I think.
If by gameplay you mean combat, there's much less of a focus on it than in most other RPGs. The gameplay in Torment is really centered around conversation.
If enjoyable dialogue between well-drawn characters in a highly distinctive and original setting coupled with moody music, detailed 2D art, and a fantastic plot-line strike you as enticing, go for it
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
I just noticed that on my second play through and thought the same thing. You can kill or not kill slate the variable being using his pistol or not. Hence the tear'ed weapon.
Pretty cool
The One Who Knocks
Member
MMBosstones86
Member
hell, they could have even taken some sounds from Bio1 and use it to make the noise for Songbird just to fuck with people. It is something, that's for sure
I did feel kind of bad for Comstock / DeWitt because he was a man who was ruled by his bad decisions... over and over and over.