See You Next Wednesday
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Haven't bought this game yet, but how non-linear is the game?
Like Bioshock 1 or more linear?
Like Bioshock 1 or more linear?
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Bioshock Infinite |OT| No Gods, Kings, or Irrational Games
- Thread starter Cystm
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The hub world is gone.
There's still optional areas to explore and what not. I'd say it's very much like Uncharted, but with alot more bigger areas, and more various branching options to explore.
Linear with large, expansive combat arenas and lots of side buildings. There are several points of no return that limit you from backtracking too far in any given area. At all times you can pop up a guide arrow that shows the critical path.
I'm definitely not trying to dissuade you.
bigdaddygamebot
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I should have never made 1999 Mode as my first playthrough. : /
With that said...all three iterations of
are down.
Fuck that series of fights. Fuck fuck fuckity fuck it.
With that said...all three iterations of
Lady Comstock
Fuck that series of fights. Fuck fuck fuckity fuck it.
catotheyounger
Member
Just wrecked a handyman on 99' with Storm, Blood&Salt and upgraded Charge. Fight lasted 25 seconds. Feels good.
beat game......
dat gif. my gahd.
neoism
Member
the last fight was fucking stupid though worse part of the game... took me 5 goddamn trys.. and I never got that one...
found alot of them too.If any fight is incredibly difficult you are using the wrong combination of vigors and gear. I was having a ton of issues with
Lady Comstock
GillianSeed79
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My name GillianSeed79 and I think I have obsessive compulsive disorder. My Steam game time says that I have been playing for 26 hours. I have still not finished the game. Lest that hasn't sunk in - twenty six mother mother f-ing hours, or, in minutes, 1,560 minutes. And I have loved every minute. What is wrong with me? Is this even possible? Yes? Is it worth it? Probably n - sorry I just saw some cake and a hot dog underneath my couch. Anyway, okay, okay, I realize that I'm like the old guy that shows up at the mall when it opens to walk laps, but I swear I'm not stupid. Maybe it's some self-confidence thing where I have to look at things like four times just to make sure you people with that book learnin' aren't trying to pull a fast one on me. Just kidding, but really, I can't understand how people beat this in 8 to 12 hours or something.
Just finished. What a game. What. A. Game. Crazy ending.
And that song during the credits sequence! I've been listening to it on repeat for like minutes. Not posting it because it's a spoiler, but it's awesome.
Some of the combat sections bugged the hell out of me. Like, really really annoyed me, but I'm just not very good at shooters with a gamepad so whatever. Game was nearly perfect otherwise.
I just pray this sells a bunch of copies and that this isn't the last story-based first person game Ken Levine makes. His work is a pretty good representation of why I love video games.
And that song during the credits sequence! I've been listening to it on repeat for like minutes. Not posting it because it's a spoiler, but it's awesome.
Some of the combat sections bugged the hell out of me. Like, really really annoyed me, but I'm just not very good at shooters with a gamepad so whatever. Game was nearly perfect otherwise.
I just pray this sells a bunch of copies and that this isn't the last story-based first person game Ken Levine makes. His work is a pretty good representation of why I love video games.
catotheyounger
Member
I did the Shawn combo on 1999. Fight lasted 10 seconds. I feel like I'm cheating.
I watched some youtube video of this and felt like I played it wrong. I only used vigors and skylines occasionally. I usually just just stayed back and one shotted enemies with the carbine or sniper.
Anyway, so far this would be my GOTY. One of the most beautiful games I've ever played.
Anyway, so far this would be my GOTY. One of the most beautiful games I've ever played.
Magic Mushroom
Member
2013 is off to a truly excellent start. This, Metal Gear Rising, Year Walk, Fire Emblem Awakening, Luigi's Mansion 2, even the Citadel DLC for ME3 was a hoot.
I'm about 4 hrs in. I have to say, I'm really disappointed so far. I expected Infinite to surpass Bioshock 1, and I (oddly) find the gameplay to be frustrating and boring. I
actually liked 1's gameplay much more.
Infinite's gameplay relies on rampant shooting and firepower whereas 1 relied on very focused strategy.
The story and atmosphere are incredible, though. It's just annoying how the gameplay isn't getting in the way of this great world.
I'm just hoping the gameplay gets better because this was one of my most anticipated games of all time, and I'm simply too frustrated with the gameplay to move on.
actually liked 1's gameplay much more.
Infinite's gameplay relies on rampant shooting and firepower whereas 1 relied on very focused strategy.
The story and atmosphere are incredible, though. It's just annoying how the gameplay isn't getting in the way of this great world.
I'm just hoping the gameplay gets better because this was one of my most anticipated games of all time, and I'm simply too frustrated with the gameplay to move on.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Folks, do familiarity with Bioshock 1 and 2 required to appreciate this game? I am really excited to play this game but I have never seriously played the previous 2 save for maybe half an hour each just fooling around. If playing and finishing those 2 are really gonna impact my appreciation towards this one, then I'll hold off playing this and make those 2 games my next play-it-to-the-end project.
They're not required at all, you might appreciate some minor details a bit more but the story is completely unrelated.
But you should still play Bioshock because it's a better game than Infinite.
Dragon1893
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It's not essential but I recommend playing Bioshock 1 first.
After finishing Infinite I decided to play Bioshock 1 again, and seriously what a game. It's a classic shooter with style and definitely much more challenging, gunplay is just so good.
Really loved Infinite, didn't feel it's gunplay was as good, but using the skyline in combat was awesome.
The world, Elizabeth, the story, the sense of awe were just amazing in Infinite, whilst Bioshock 1 was more creepy, almost like a survival horror game in some parts. Big Daddy's kick major ass!
The Librarian
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I'd say HMs handily beat out BDs. I'm more scared of HMs, and they're tougher to beat.
The_Darkest_Red
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The core gameplay is really not doing it for me so far (about 5 or 6 hours in). It's weird because I'm generally a pretty big fan of shooters but for some reason the combat in Infinite just hasn't really clicked with me. I also hate the failure mechanic because: 1) I'd rather redo a few minutes of a section than lose money because it's less frustrating and 2) I don't feel any satisfaction from beating a section of the game that I "died" in a time or two.
It's not necessary at all, but I'd play BioShock first either way.
I feel like replaying BS1 and jumping into 2 on pc, too bad they're both still €20 on Steam.
Restart checkpoint if you die? I know, you're not following the intended design of the game, but I started doing it on my 1999 run and it felt better. I don't like the revive thing either, for the exact reasons you mentioned. And you end up with more money to spend.
I need to know this combo. The Shawn Method for taking out that tri boss battle works in spades.
cleveridea
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completely optional. I though bioshock was over rated (still great but over rated) and bioshock 2 I couldnt get far due to the same location being boring for me to explore.
so I almost didnt get bioshock infinite, but I LOVE it. amazing game.
cleveridea
Member
wow so having restarted on 1999 mode, am having a blast so far. I get to play as a short-range vanguard right at the start with a 3 meter melee extended melee lunge attack and a 70% shock/stun effect. feels like a totally different game.
I picked up the season pass yesterday for the bonus stuff, I was concerned since I had just entered the location where the gear is supposed to appear only very early spoiler
I picked up the season pass yesterday for the bonus stuff, I was concerned since I had just entered the location where the gear is supposed to appear only very early spoiler
the BR restaurant where you pick up your shield but it worked and I saw the 5 infusions and the gear. it wont let you leave the room past the lady until you picked up the bonus items. it may be that if you had got past this part already, you wont be able to get the items
We're making Mass Effect references for Infinite now? Really?
I love playing as a rogue Biotic with ghost soldiers
One thing this game needs to get major props for is it remembering exactly where you leave weapons and traps, and always keeping them there. They never disappear. I was running aorund Emporia, loading and reloading sections, and traps I had laid before (such as inside the bank) never magically erased. I placed a sniper rifle in an safe area for use later and when I needed it, BAM it was still right where I left it.
The Handyman encounters suck, unless you use crows on them they are a fucking nightmare, there is no strategy to use on them.
I'm really not enjoying the combat at all, there have been a few encounters here and there where it started to click and be fun, but for the most part it's a drag IMO. I preferred Bioshock's to this one.
I'm really not enjoying the combat at all, there have been a few encounters here and there where it started to click and be fun, but for the most part it's a drag IMO. I preferred Bioshock's to this one.
Dragon1893
Member
Didn't have much trouble with them on hard to be honest. Cleared the first 2 without dying. I actually enjoyed those fights because they forced me to be constantly on the move.
Are you serious? I went through 1 with mostly using shock and the wrench exclusively. I've varied it up much more so here, and the skyhook has opened it up even more beyond the bigger arenas you fight in. 1's combat had the scare/pop out effect of "oh shit, hit it with something" more often than not for me. Infinite has me thinking of ways to change it up more.
RadarScope1
Member
Great point. I never thought of it that way.
There are a few that appear in areas youve visted after (mid game spoilers)
you start tearing into other dimensions. Specifically theres an extra one inside Chen Lins and theres two that appear at the Graveyard Bar.
im probably 80% to the end and the gameplay doesnt change. in bioshock or even system shock 2 you are brought into a world that has gone to shit and have to avoid or fight your way through whatever else still remains roaming in that world. in infinite it feels like youre always triggering a quake 3 battle. enemies dont really roam around they simply wait until you get to a certain point then attack while others spawn in. its like enjoying an interesting book then having a super bowl after party appear for a few minutes before getting back to the book. neither the combat or atmosphere/world are bad on their own but the meshing of them here pulls me out quite often and for that reason the game isnt clicking the way i had hoped.
Maybe I'm misremembering, but didn't you always have to engage enemies in Bioshock? Maybe bypassing Big Daddies if you wanted to? I'm confused as to why people think it's so different here. You only see where they are coming in from because things aren't pitch black a lot of the time. Pretty sure they just sat there or walked from one end of the hallway to the other in 1. Nothing special that's missing here. You just get to see behind the curtain easier with the lights turned on.
cleveridea
Member
Well they themselves implemented the vanguard class with both the "charge" vigor and their equivalent of "pull"
not having played them will make you appreciate Infinite a lot more
Play the original first. Dont worry about 2.
I'd say this is the way to go.
you dont have to kill everything in bioshock. you definitely dont have to in system shock 2.
sure the AI had patrol paths in those games but they would break out of them to investigate a noise and you could even hide while they looked. infinite doesnt have this at all. if you make a noise like breaking a window or possessing a vending machine it's always guaranteed combat even if the nearest enemy is hundreds of feet away. in the older shock games you could take out a stray enemy without alerting the rest. not possible in this one. this time its a few enemies standing there waiting for you to hit the trigger point which allows the rest to spawn in and everyone attacks. they all know exactly where you are as soon as the game switches into a fight too. people say it's very different because it is.