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Bishop holds Exorcism in response Of Gay Marriage enacted

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Camp Lo

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At the same time Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn was signing the state's same-sex marriage bill into law in Chicago on Wednesday, a very different type of ceremony took place some 200 miles way in the state's capital.

Despite calls for him to stand down in an online petition signed over 15,000 times, Springfield Bishop Thomas John Paprocki followed through Wednesday on his plan to hold a reportedly unprecedented (in Illinois) exorcism "in reparation" for the state's new marriage equality law at the Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception.

Paprocki said he spoke Wednesday "with great reluctance" and did not "seek to enter any controversy and I don't relish being part of one" but felt the need to hold the service having "given this matter a great deal of thought and prayer."

"Be gone Satan, father of lies, enemy of human salvation," Paprocki said at the Wednesday ceremony, in front of a crowd of some 500, the Chicago Sun-Times reports. "Give way to Christ, in whom you found no trace of your works. Give way to the one, holy, Catholic and apostolic church, which Christ himself won by his blood.”

According to the Chicago Tribune, Paprocki's exorcism was a "minor" one on par with renouncements of evil and the devil in baptisms and conformations -- not the sort of "major" one Paprocki told the paper would have been called for had he believed those who pushed for the marriage bill were "possessed by the devil." He reportedly does not believe that to be the case.

That said, Paprocki did note the he believes "politicians responsible for enacting civil same-sex marriage legislation are morally complicit as co-operators in facilitating this grave sin," the Tribune reports.

In a press conference, Paprocki also had harsh words for those who support the elected officials who voted to bring legal same-sex marriage to the land of Lincoln.

"If you're voting for someone because you have the intention of trying to promote something that is gravely sinful then you are putting your salvation in jeopardy," he said Wednesday, according to ABC Chicago.

The exorcism rite attracted some protesters who opposed the service and support same-sex marriage.

Illinois is now the 16th state to legalize same-sex marriage. The law allows that marriages may begin on June 1, 2014.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/21/thomas-paprocki-illinois-_n_4317432.html

Anyway, congratulations Illinois.
 
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Ridiculous.


Jesus didn't say a damn word about gays. Not a single thing. But Jesus absolutely railed against divorce. He even equated marrying a divorced person with adultery.

But you don't see many churches freaking out over divorce or marrying divorced people do you? Yeah, I know the Catholic church looks down upon it but even they let it slide with their 'annulments'.

But when it comes to gays . . . well then EVERYONE FREAK OUT. It is just plain bigotry.
 
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chickdigger802

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only know about exorcisms in media, how do they work irl?

do you have to draw badass alchemy circles and sacrifice a virgin and a lamb?
 
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commedieu

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chickdigger802 said:
only know about exorcisms in media, how do they work irl?

do you have to draw badass alchemy circles and sacrifice a virgin and a lamb?
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They work on mentally ill people.

Not entire geographic masses and land. If holy words were so powerful, they wouldn't have to behead people for not beliving.
 
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chicagocubsfan

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Paprocki is a joke. My parents are Catholics and hate him. He's one of the main reasons my middle school shut down which made my mom be out of a job.
 
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MrHicks

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speculawyer said:
Ridiculous.


Jesus didn't say a damn word about gays. Not a single thing. But Jesus absolutely railed against divorce. He even equated marrying a divorced person with adultery.

But you don't see many churches freaking out over divorce or marrying divorced people do you? Yeah, I know the Catholic church looks down upon it but even they let it slide with their 'annulments'.

But when it comes to gays . . . well then EVERYONE FREAK OUT. It is just plain bigotry.
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maybe jesus didn't but its clearly not allowed

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."

Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"

on one hand all this gay hating from religious people is disgusting
but what do you expect if its in their fucking religion?
 
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Fari

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Bringing up paedophilia in every Catholicism thread is fairly redundant, but would anyone be genuinely surprised if this guy turned out to be a kiddie fiddler?
 
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Angelus Errare

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But god made Satan...so how can you blame him without indirectly blaming god?

Thanks for the exorcism I guess? Should have performed like some kind of mass health buff or something actually useful. This was a useless spell you cast. Worst.fucking.healer.EVER.
 
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Angry Grimace

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I just don't get anti-gay marriage people on any ground at all, moral, legal or logical.

You can't simultaneously say you support the Constitution (which virtually all marriage equality opponents fervently do) and say you oppose gay marriage because saying it should be banned requires a tacit understanding that your religious belief is more valid than the sincerely held belief of someone else.
 
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Moppeh

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Ignis Fatuus said:
Are you trying to imply that homosexuality is a choice?
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Haha, what? How the hell did you get that from my post?

All I'm saying is that calling an entire group of people child diddlers is just as shitty as this guy calling homosexuals sinners.

There are good priests and bad priests. Most of them are pretty cool people who don't rape children.
 
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Alrus

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MrHicks said:
maybe jesus didn't but its clearly not allowed

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."

Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"
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If you're going to use the Leviticus as guide to your lifestyle, then you shouldn't ignore all the other rules in it.
 
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Ignis Fatuus

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Moppeh said:
Haha, what? How the hell did you get that from my post?

All I'm saying is that calling an entire group of people child diddlers is just as shitty as this guy calling homosexuals sinners.
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You can choose not to be a Catholic. You can choose not to support the Catholic belief system. You can choose not to be a part of an institution which systemically conceals and facilitates child rape.

You cannot choose not to be gay.

Your argument is ignorant.
 
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Angry Grimace said:
He's not making a legal argument; he's pointing out that this guy is a colossal shitlord of the highest order.
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I see.

Don't think Francis would be too pleased about this. He did say american bishops were too obsessed with these social issues and to focus instead on helping the poor and those in need etc.
 
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massoluk

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Alrus said:
If you're going to use the Leviticus as guide to your lifestyle, then you shouldn't ignore all the other rules in it.
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Leviticus is the shits.

19'You are to keep My statutes. You shall not breed together two kinds of your cattle; you shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together. 20Now if a man lies carnally with a woman who is a slave acquired for another man, but who has in no way been redeemed nor given her freedom, there shall be punishment; they shall not, however, be put to death, because she was not free

But my favorite Old Testament's verse is by far Deuteronomy 22:28

28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
 
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Archaix

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Moppeh said:
Haha, what? How the hell did you get that from my post?

All I'm saying is that calling an entire group of people child diddlers is just as shitty as this guy calling homosexuals sinners.

There are good priests and bad priests. Most of them are pretty cool people who don't rape children.
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Yeah, there are plenty of good priests who have continued to serve those who cover up the ongoing systemic rape of children.
 
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Moppeh

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Ignis Fatuus said:
You can choose not to be a Catholic. You can choose not to support the Catholic belief system. You can choose not to be a part of an institution which systemically conceals and facilitates child rape.

You cannot choose not to be gay.

Your argument is ignorant.
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That is entirely factual and I'm not denying that fact. All you are doing is trying to put words in my mouth. >.>

You are talking shit about an entire group of people just like he is. All I'm doing is making a direct comparison. You shouldn't speak ill of all Catholics or priests because of some of their actions. A lot of Catholics and priests are good people.
 
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"Be gone Satan, father of lies, enemy of human salvation,"
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Biased ad hominem attack... its the Prince of Lies. The John 8:44 propoganda perpetuates a spindoctored genesis.

Paprocki's exorcism was a "minor" one on par with renouncements of evil and the devil in baptisms and conformations -- not the sort of "major" one Paprocki told the paper would have been called for had he believed those who pushed for the marriage bill were "possessed by the devil." He reportedly does not believe that to be the case.
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Maybe its a different devil in the House of God that he should worry about.
 
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