yes it does, else it wouldn't rear its head among white people so much. But anyone can be racist though.
Black people can't be racist?
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yes it does, else it wouldn't rear its head among white people so much. But anyone can be racist though.
ElectricBlanketFire
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Pretty ballsy to question the OP's race.
No. I think. Maybe a few bits empty of a pez dispenser though.
Jesse Jackson is NOT the emperor of Black People.
depends. If a group of Interracial skateboarders are doing tricks and 1 of them runs into a car. My friend asks me what happened. I may say, "stupid black ( or white) dude ran into a car"
But if you call a random guy from the hood, stupid black dude, I'd say that's kind of predjudiced
old
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This is a recent movement among radicals to redefine racism so their racism can't be called racism. They're trying to push that racism requires institutional power to be "racist". Just keep calling them racist. Don't let their new definition become accepted. If they try to correct you then correct them. Ignorance and hate are ignorance and hate.
BigEvilTurtle
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No. That's a descriptor. The comment isn't charged with any kind of racist implication, at least from what I understand of the word "racism." Doesn't it have to relate to racial superiority or is the definition more casual now? "I hate black people" isn't racist; it's prejudiced. "Black people are scum" is a bit racist I think since it touches on the subject of superiority.
I could be wrong and sound like a total moron. I just figured there's a difference between racism and bigotry.
10/10 >.>
Pickles the Firecat
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Black people can't be racist because the genotype for racism is typically eliminated by the presence of additional ACTN3. We're just packing those fast twitch muscle fibers in there and racing toward equality.
vas_a_morir
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Obviously, this is a true statement. Fred Phelps, the 'God Hates Fags' church starter, was a civil rights attorney in Kansas for years on behalf of minorities. As far as I know, he was not only not a racist, but actually dedicated his career to being an empathetic crusader for blacks. Yet, he was a vile bigot who said awful things about gays. A bigot, but not a racist.
PhantomHound
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I'll try my best... but maybe it's not the best argument.
I would argue that can be applied to white people too?
White man makes racist comment: All white people are racist
White man can't dance: All white people can't dance.
White man can't jump: All white men can't jump.
White man is nerdy: All white men are nerdy.
User 73706
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Once again, this is intended as a parallel, not a converse. You're not supposed to think up "what's a word to describe white people? okay, now what's an equivalent word to describe black people?" All you're switching is the race. "Nerdy black boy" and "nerdy white boy" are being compared here. Likewise, if "bigwig white man" were the comment potentially racist in question, you would not attempt to go for "unemployed black man" or "cotton-pickin' black man" as an equivalent. "Bigwig black man" would be the equivalent. Equality isn't about drawing parallels based on subconscious reasoning or insecurities - it's about equality.
Nah. You're just describing the color of his skin, regardless of where he's located
n00bsauce87
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If anyone can be a racist, then you inherently assume that all races are treated fairly and equally in society. Because for anyone to be racists, they themselves believe they are better than the other person based on their own race. Hence why people associate racism to a power dynamic and not just four or five words from someone's mouth.
Chie Satonaka
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I can only agree with this to a point. I'd say it's much less likely to be the case, but it does still happen.
You were probably making a general statement and already knew that, though.
they are too busy touching my hair to listen
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vas_a_morir
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Please oh please tell me you aren't being serious. I don't know you as a poster and you never know.
Shit just got real.
I once saw a black person doing black things and it made me suspect every black person of maybe doing black things in the tri-state area. I was scurred.
The Incarnation
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Product of the environment. In that is the social construct of race. They're not racist in the supremacist sense. Just influenced......... Negatively.
IT'S A TRAP!!!
I'm... no. I'm not gonna insult you for the attempt, but I'll let you know this isn't how it works.
Broder Salsa
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I was once called a cracker by a black man. To this day I am still trying to recover my internal wounds the word left in me.
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PhantomHound
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I mean you can go a bit deeper than that without insulting me. Isn't stereotyping racist?
samus i am
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Well... yes. From wikipedia "Bigotry is the state of mind of someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats or views other people with fear, distrust or hatred...."
But where did that distrust or prejudice come about? In the case of African Americans that have been the victims of racism it is pretty obvious.
The equivalent to nerdy white boy is nerdy black boy. Not stupid black boy, not thuggish black boy.
Who am I to argue with Hollywood?
Also holy shit I forgot Woody Harrelson was in this...
I think we can go further and apply it to all groups really. Gun owners, christians, feminists. You name it, it's a hivemind.
Nah brehs. Nerdy = thuggish, duh.
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Powdered Toastman
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Not quite the same as racism, but there's shadism, and Internalized racism which perhaps is more a form of self-hatred/racism.
I guess black people can discriminate as well as white can, but I would say racism is pretty much mostly a 'white' thing...
Idk about racist, but personally I find those within a certain subsection of my race to be distasteful as their actions and lack of civility/common sense reflects badly on the race as a whole (which seems to be all anyone ever cares about)
vas_a_morir
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I got trolled, as I suspected... but you just never know. lol
I have heard people describe Muhammad Ali as saying racially offensive things about Joe Frazier. I've heard discussion regarding some cases a long time ago where there was tension between some US African Americans with more predominant European features vs. those with more subdued European features, which is what people claim Ali was perpetuating with some of his comments.
Beyond that, depends on what you consider races. Nazis primarily discriminated (genocide/oppression) against people that would be considered the same race... yet they had created a racial identity of Aryan, which was basically non-Jewish European peoples.
Ethnicity sort of exists--from a social / cultural / very barely biological standpoint--but isn't super useful. "Han Chinese" sort of means something (likely speaks Mandarin or Cantonese, likely educated in Confucian rather than Socratic tradition, likely not religious, etc); "Asian" doesn't mean anything at all. It's fucked up to assign an ethnicity to someone else in any case.
Race ("White", "Black", "Asian", "Native American", etc) doesn't exist, it is a construct of racists. Talking about someone's race doesn't get you any closer to understanding them. It probably moves you farther from understanding.
Vermillion
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I'm aware; I wanted to clarify that he wasn't saying "people who see race are the real racists," as that's bullshit. But from what I've learned, race is social, yes.
No, I agree with you.
Foxy Fox 39
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1. Black people can be racist.
2. Nerdy white boy is not racist.
2. Nerdy white boy is not racist.
hope you feel better soon.
I'm always called terrorist and stuff since I came to the US 3 years ago. I also find it racist and annoying when people start talking about money and oil thinking oil come out of my shower or I have a bed of money in my house (I'm Saudi Arabian).
I hate it even more when people joke about me having a bomb under my jacket in public. I remember once my American friend jokingly told the waitress that she should be careful taking my order since I'm Arabian... or I might blow up the place. I was like wtf
Historically, blacks and other minorities are more prone to being negatively stereotyped on a grandiose scale (and having it be ignored), IIRC. I remember when president Obama was elected, all these politicianss and journalists were talking about how he spoke "proper" English etc., implying that in their minds, most black people talk like Uncle Ruckus. There was an article on this, I should try to find it.
It's er... read a few articles about racism in the US in particular, you'll likely have a better understanding.
PhantomHound
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I was going to include that in my original argument, but stuck to race. It's like how people say women or Asians can't drive. There's a large segment of the population that will spout that nonsense all the time.
Hive mind applies to every group, culture, ethnicity.
"Oh hey you like video games... you must be a fat nerd who sits on his couch all day."
Black-Wind
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Because there's nothing inherently derogatory, demeaning, dehumanizing or shameful in calling someone "nerdy".
You can say it in a derogatory manner but it's not a racially charged word or a powerful derogatory word to begin with.
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