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[king zell]

Just a teaser for tonight's exclusive update:

-- Craig

sorry if old.. I could not find a thread about it..

 

[demi]

gross

 

[Amir0x]

heh. That looks really funny.

 

[Akia]

Edit: Its the game Black and White. Forget about it then.

 

[Spencerr]

Lol @ the picture

PS: Knoppix owns for not paying attention in class in a room with no hard drives.

 

[Jibber Hack]

Um, yeah. This could be a cool way to waste time on the crapper. I've got mixed feelings.

 

[Catchpenny]

Black & White could make for a good DS game, but I would've preferred a 2D attempt. We'll see.

 

[Andy787]

Haha.

 

[masud]

Looks playable.

 

[mr_sockochris]

 

[MrAngryFace]

I like how the best compliment this game can get is 'looks playable.'

 

[xsarien]

Mouse-heavy PC games could do really well on the DS. I hope developers see that.

 

[Suikoguy]

I think I cut myself on one of those pixels.
Anybody have a bandaid?

 

[siege]

Looks pretty good. This is certainly a game that would work well on the DS.

 

[JasoNsider]

Not bad, not bad. Hopefully the game won't be broken this time. Seriously, this probably has a lot of potential, but I'm waiting to find out if they've learned how to create a reliable product first.

 

[olimario]

I think it looks great. We know how powerful the hardware is and we know what to expect. All things considered, it looks great.

And that ground texture needs to replace the one in the new Zelda.

 

[Amir0x]

I think it looks great. We know how powerful the hardware is and we know what to expect. All things considered, it looks great.

And that ground texture needs to replace the one in the new Zelda.

Knowing how powerful the hardware is doesn't change how good or bad something looks.

 

[Socreges]

That looks atrocious

 

[Li Mu Bai]

I think it looks great. We know how powerful the hardware is and we know what to expect. All things considered, it looks great.

And that ground texture needs to replace the one in the new Zelda.

So you expected Goemon? If you understood scale as well as an incomplete project, you would cease making ignorant comments regarding Zelda.

 

[Bluemercury]

Knowing how powerful the hardware is doesn't change how good or bad something looks.

pple didnt use to say that when n64 was around with psx....

 

[Amir0x]

pple didnt use to say that when n64 was around with psx....

...

To reuse my old phrase...

"Are you fucking stupid?"

Seriously, back away from your shitty fanboy conspiracy theories. Think about what you just said and why it in no way fits this scenario.

 

[Bigfonzie]

lol i thought from the first picture this was a joke thread :lol but its not











not funny.

 

[Bluemercury]

it fits because i remember seeing these graphics you see on DS and pple would go crazy even with an N64 right in the side.....so please back off with the stupid comments okay?

 

[Amir0x]

it fits because i remember seeing these graphics you see on DS and pple would go crazy even with an N64 right in the side.....so please back off with the stupid comments okay?

Yeah, you've got to be slow.

A little history lesson!

You see, when N64 and PSX were around the differences in graphics were not massive generational leaps!

But let's put that aside for a moment!

During the PSX and N64 era, we did not have Half-Life 2, Resident Evil 4, PS2, Dreamcast, Xbox, Gamecube and PSP-esque graphics! You see, the key thing to note here is that graphics have advanced since that era! What was once impressive no longer is! See how that works? Hey guess what, NES games no longer look good! I wonder the fuck why!

 

[jenov4]

This game looks slightly better than the PS1 version that got canned a couple of years back. I recall seeing the game at the Midas booth a couple of E3's ago.

 

[Dalamar86]

Looks to have potential I suppose. I mean, it isnt Lionhead this time around to mess it up. Anyone who remotely enjoys haveing a jaggie free game must be puking right about now though.

Not too bad in comparison to other DS efforts we've seen.

 

[GaimeGuy]

Yeah, you've got to be slow.

A little history lesson!

You see, when N64 and PSX were around the differences in graphics were not massive generational leaps!

But let's put that aside for a moment!

During the PSX and N64 era, we did not have Half-Life 2, Resident Evil 4, PS2, Dreamcast, Xbox, Gamecube and PSP-esque graphics! You see, the key thing to note here is that graphics have advanced since that era! What was once impressive no longer is! See how that works? Hey guess what, NES games no longer look good! I wonder the fuck why!

Then again, pretty much every opposing handheld has been a full gen ahead of the Nintendo handheld currently supported.

 

[sprsk]

well this game would make use of the touch screen features...

too bad it sucks though.

 

[Amir0x]

Then again, pretty much every opposing handheld has been a full gen ahead of the Nintendo handheld currently supported.

this has nothing to do with the grotesqueness of these screens, or why they're thoroughly unimpressive and ugly no matter what spin you try to put on it.

 

[Zensetsu]

If they fix the stuff that sucked from B&W and keep the stuff that ruled then the graphics are good enough for me.
I actually played B&W quite a bit, got fairly attached to it....I have fond memories of teaching my creature to do stuff and ignoring the annoying missions.

 

[GaimeGuy]

this has nothing to do with the grotesqueness of these screens, or why they're thoroughly unimpressive and ugly no matter what spin you try to put on it.

I don't even GIVE a shit about Black & White.

I just wish people would stop bringing up the generation gap like it's something new in every DS thread.
It's been around the last 20 years with every nintendo handheld. It was there with the lynx, the GameGear, the GP32, and the wonderswan (before the GBA came out).
Can gaf focus on any video game for what it is, rather than what it isn't?

 

[DDayton]

You know what would be nice?

Doshin the Giant DS.

 

[GaimeGuy]

You know what would be nice?

Doshin the Giant DS.

As long as it played well (unlike the original doshin)

 

[Amir0x]

I don't even GIVE a shit about Black & White.

uh, I wasn't talking about you putting on the spin...I was reffering to Bluemercury. But now maybe I'm not so sure

I just wish people would stop bringing up the generation gap like it's something new in every DS thread.

That's, um, not the point. We're discussing the fact that B&W looks hideous here. Bluemercury said "OH BUT NO ONE SAID THAT WHEN PSX AND N64 WERE AROUND", so i kindly had to explain to him why the fuck that does not apply here. Without the kindly part. That's why the "generational" thing was mentioned.

It's been around the last 20 years with every nintendo handheld. It was there with the lynx, the GameGear, the GP32, and the wonderswan (before the GBA came out).
Can gaf focus on any video game for what it is, rather than what it isn't?

Ok, this still has nothing to do with the subject we were discussing.

 

[DDayton]

As long as it played well (unlike the original doshin)

Eh. I imported the GC version (swapped a spare LoZ: Master Quest disc for it), and I found it to be a generally entertaining game. It seems like the kind of game that could do well with a stylus.

 

[Ponn]

I'll say it, looks like shit. Regardless if it controls good, you are still controlling shit. I've seen the pics of age of empires for DS and they look much better then this. I can't even tell what the animals are it's bad.

 

[GaimeGuy]

Maybe it's just that I'm much more tolerant of N64 level visuals, I don't know.
I just don't see anything wrong with these screens. I mean, they don't make you go "OMG FUCK WOW!" but they don't make you rip your eyes out in horror, either, nor do the majority of games I've seen for the PSP and DS, so far.

 

[Amir0x]

Maybe it's just that I'm much more tolerant of N64 level visuals, I don't know.

N64 quality visuals minus texture filtering is VERY bad in screen captures, and like someone said it has pixels that can fucking kill a person. It looks atrocious. If this is a standard you want to "accept", be my guest. I'll aim higher.

I just don't see anything wrong with these screens.

Do you need a diagram to point you toward the near-endless ugly?

they don't make you rip your eyes out in horror, either.

yes they do. my eyes are currently recovering in a god-damned hospital.

 

[Cragstar]

So friggin what if it looks jaggy.
Its on N64 type hardware and so won't look that good.
As long as it plays well WHO CARES
not everyone is a graphic whoring sheep.
Wish you DS haters would find something else to moan about, as 6million and rising fast people seem to agree, whilst your 2 million psp buddies wouldn't.
Move on, stop friggin moaning, if you don't like whats on the DS DON'T BLOODY COMMENT.

 

[snapty00]

So friggin what if it looks jaggy.
Its on N64 type hardware and so won't look that good.
As long as it plays well WHO CARES
not everyone is a graphic whoring sheep.
Wish you DS haters would find something else to moan about, as 6million and rising fast people seem to agree, whilst your 2 million psp buddies wouldn't.
Move on, stop friggin moaning, if you don't like whats on the DS DON'T BLOODY COMMENT.

Shut the fuck up.

 

[sprsk]

Shut the fuck up.

no u!

 

[Amir0x]

So friggin what if it looks jaggy.

Well, since we only mainly have screens to talk about... it seems pretty smart to discuss how ugly they are!

Its on N64 type hardware and so won't look that good.

ok, so then it's justifiable to say it's ugly? Because it is. If I didn't say that yet.

As long as it plays well WHO CARES

Therein lies the second problem! It's Black & White!

not everyone is a graphic whoring sheep.

Wait, talking about how the clearly ugly graphics are bad is "graphic whoring"? *gasp*

Wish you DS haters would find something else to moan about

uh-oh, the camps have been divided, the line drawn!

as 6million and rising fast people seem to agree, whilst your 2 million psp buddies wouldn't.

sales numbers comin' to justify quality! The gauntlet has been thrown!

Move on, stop friggin moaning, if you don't like whats on the DS DON'T BLOODY COMMENT.

Hey, what do you know? I just found out I do like what's on DS, but not every game! And also, this game is ugly! Did I mention that?








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[byproduct]

I clicked on this thread thinking I would see a new colour scheme for the DS.

The ground textures on this game remind me of that old Bullfrog game Magic Carpet.

 

[Jonnyboy117]

You know what would be nice?

Doshin the Giant DS.

Hm, no. Doshin is not nearly as much fun as it looks. It's really cool and sort of funny, but not fun.

 

[Blackace]

I'm buying it...

 

[Ponn]

So friggin what if it looks jaggy.
Its on N64 type hardware and so won't look that good.
As long as it plays well WHO CARES
not everyone is a graphic whoring sheep.
Wish you DS haters would find something else to moan about, as 6million and rising fast people seem to agree, whilst your 2 million psp buddies wouldn't.
Move on, stop friggin moaning, if you don't like whats on the DS DON'T BLOODY COMMENT.

I have a DS and I have the right to say I don't like the looks of it. It's a current gen handheld system and by today's standards, it looks like crap, accept it. I could put on blinders and pretend we are back in the N64 era and PSX era, and truthfully even back then I didn't like the washed out look of N64 games either. Regardless how many DS'es are sold it doesn't change the fact that this game looks like shit.

I'm also loving this new trend of DS fanboys calling people that disagree with what is good on the DS as graphic whores, yet the same ones will be right there making fun of Resident Evil 4 for PS2 because it doesn't look as good as the Gamecube version. Double Standards?

 

[Cragstar]

Amir0x why the hell did you bother just posting?
you pulled my thread apart LIKE YOU DO EVERYONE, yet you do nothing but make me laugh with your usual brand of illogical logic.

WHO CARES HOW IT LOOKS THEY ARE EARLY SCREENS. CRAPPY SCREEN CAPTURES.

Just for once i'd like to see you be nice my man.
couldn't you just say.

"Hmmmm Black and White, nice idea for the DS AND PSP hoope the looks improve in the final build"

or something instead of posting the same thing over and over in reply to everyone.

 

[Cragstar]

I have a DS and I have the right to say I don't like the looks of it. It's a current gen handheld system and by today's standards, it looks like crap, accept it. I could put on blinders and pretend we are back in the N64 era and PSX era, and truthfully even back then I didn't like the washed out look of N64 games either. Regardless how many DS'es are sold it doesn't change the fact that this game looks like shit.

I'm also loving this new trend of DS fanboys calling people that disagree with what is good on the DS as graphic whores, yet the same ones will be right there making fun of Resident Evil 4 for PS2 because it doesn't look as good as the Gamecube version. Double Standards?

i'm also loving the BLATENT haters who all seem to jabber on about the graphics, its boring guys. I don't care what you think about what i say, but when you have the same people CONSTANTLY moaning about the graphics in every DS thread. it gets a bit BOOOOOOOOORING.

 

[callous]

DS has the worst grass since Saturn.

 

[Amir0x]

Amir0x why the hell did you bother just posting?
you pulled my thread apart LIKE YOU DO EVERYONE, yet you do nothing but make me laugh with your usual brand of illogical logic.

:lol

Oh Cragstar, you are beyond predictable at this point. I don't even think you know what you want to say anymore.

WHO CARES HOW IT LOOKS THEY ARE EARLY SCREENS. CRAPPY SCREEN CAPTURES.

The quality of the screen captures doesn't look bad at all, actually. Early screens though they might be, but I'm pretty sure that's just you trying to dance around the point that it likely will end up looking close to this

"Hmmmm Black and White, nice idea for the DS AND PSP hoope the looks improve in the final build"

I didn't pull your thread apart, you pulled it apart. You said something silly and I went to explain why it was silly. You're asking people not to explicitly comment on the state of THESE screens, early or not, because it's not "nice." Fine, I'm not nice. I'm honest. Brutally or otherwise, that's all you're going to get from me. This looks ugly.

This is a thread where we have very little solid info on Black & White DS (or PSP), except these screens. That's what happens.

And no, Black and White isn't a good idea for DS or PSP because the first sucked. The first sucked so bad that it'd have to completely catch me off from left field for me to be reinterested. I think I deserve my time to make fun of Black and White considering what a disappointment the first was. And I purchased it! That fifty dollars has earned me criticizing points.