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Blade Runner 2049: Ridley Scott insists Deckard is a Replicant, Villeneuve am cry
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Bobby Roberts
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Nah, y'all old.
fuckin "am cry"
Like when you're not cool enough to make "cake is a lie" jokes safely.
bonesmccoy
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I'm beginning to think that Scott is taking the piss, or is pissed, each time he does an interview.
Revolutionary
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I have to admit that I love how candid the man is during interviews. He really doesn't give a shit what you think.
Pop-O-Matic
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It's our language, Bobby Bomba. Get over it.
Dr Bass
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That's not exactly right. He's not a replicant in the original story. The guy who wrote the screenplay did not consider him a replicant. Harrison Ford played him as a human. If Deckard is a replicant the entire theme of the movie is destroyed and it becomes a rather silly movie outside of the visuals and music.
Think of how Deckard reacts when he finds the unicorn at the end. Is that the reaction of "Oh, Im a replicant too. Awesome, no big deal. Now let's go!" Or is is the reaction of "It doesn't matter if Rachel is a replicant or not, she has life and we are going to make the best of it while we can" (or something to that effect)? If the story is meant to be thoughtful in any way, as the original story was, he just can't be a replicant. Frank Darabont also speaks to this in some of the extra features on one of the blu ray releases.
It's not Ridley's story. It's not his script. He can be wrong.
Ban Puncher
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Why was there a stone mural of a Xenomorph on Earth in Prometheus when they weren't invented yet?
Bobby Roberts
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BocoDragon
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Bobby Roberts is right. "Am cry" is like "o rly" owls vintage.
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Don't compile this
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Psychoward
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Look I think the movie is better off with Deckard not being a replicant and I'm aware of the difference in vision about the writer. But at the end of the day the version I watched was the Director's Cut and it was pretty clear when the credits rolled that Deckard was a replicant in that movie.
Bobby Roberts
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I clicked every single one of those fucking tags pop.
Every one.
Every one.
Pop-O-Matic
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Why'd you do that? You should have known after the second one at most that it was just gonna be
Psychoward
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Bobby Roberts
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That prominent placement of IT and Wonder Woman is pretty unfortunate.
As is the prominent placement of Mike's fuckin head.
As is the prominent placement of Mike's fuckin head.
What's funny about you people going on about Fancher's early drafts is that in one of his later ones he drops a hint that Deckard might be a Replicant.
Old Fancher interview
Old Fancher interview
IIRC, they actually got as far as putting that scene to storyboards for the initial pitch, since they showed those storyboards off towards the beginning of Dangerous Days. It sounded like such a cool idea for an opener, so I'm glad they finally found a way to get around to including it in something Blade Runner-related.
Bobby Roberts
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Deckard MAYBE being a replicant isn't the problem.
Deckard DEFINITELY being a replicant is what people have a problem with
It's not the answer, it's that there's the presence of a 100% right-or-wrong answer at all.
Deckard DEFINITELY being a replicant is what people have a problem with
It's not the answer, it's that there's the presence of a 100% right-or-wrong answer at all.
Dash_Riprock
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The man has gone full Lucas on us...
I can't wait till Disney starts making Alien movies
Unknown Soldier
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Harrison Ford famously claimed that Ridley told him that Deckard was NOT a Replicant and he tried to act like a human. However Ridley never said one way or the other until recent years when he finally started saying Deckard was a Replicant.
The infamous unicorn dream scene was inserted into the film more than a decade after it originally premiered in theaters.
The infamous unicorn dream scene was inserted into the film more than a decade after it originally premiered in theaters.
Sectorseven
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wat
StanleyPalmtree
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for some reason im suspecting this is the set up to some kind of "Yo, can i get a double deckard with cheese" punchline.
man i am having a freaking weird morning
RustyNails
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You know Ridley may be a dick but if he's saying Deckard is Replicant then it's officially canon.
Bobby Roberts
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Prophaniti
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I thought the ending was pretty clear about it.
Unicorn couldn't have meant anything else. Also he clearly gets hit in the face with a punch right after the first punch goes straight through steel. The dude who hit him loaded munitions into space cannons. By hand.
DOWN
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The original version of the movie should be seen first as it was the most responsible for the movie getting famous. After that you can watch the Final Cut. Watching the Final Cut first can hurt the base mystery of watching the original Cut, so watch the original first.
And I agree with Harrison and the screenwriter that Deckard as replicant screws up the message of the film badly.
And I agree with Harrison and the screenwriter that Deckard as replicant screws up the message of the film badly.
George Oscar Bluth II
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captjohnboyd
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Bobby. Jesus. This is the funniest post I've read on here in ages. I'm straight stealing the shit out of your ABV line
Wolfe
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Yup, and Greedo shot first, end of story folks.
This exact argument has been brought up and debated already in the thread, and it's fine if that answer/explanation is ok with you, for me it's not and I prefer the original version of the film and it's ambiguity about the subject.
This is how I feel, and Ridley coming in years later to alter the film and shout about how Deckard was always a replicant comes off very reminiscent of what Lucas did with the OT.
spiderman123
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Scott gone senile. Why do that man.
Passing the Voigt kampf test and appearing perfectly human would in fact be a superpower and in keeping with the kinds of things Tyrrell was trying to achieve.
Viewed through that lens Rachel's eventual failure to pass would explain why Tyrrell was pleased at the "result" because he was testing Deckard not Rachel
I personally don't subscribe to Deckard being a definite replicant largely because the book was about "how could you really know?"
That still sounds like a hollow, pointless twist, considering he's already letting Rachael live.
Deckard being human is infinitely more impactful because he's risking everything, throwing away any future he might have to save a person who only has a few years to live. Compare that to Gaff sort of shrugging and turning a blind eye on what they're about to do - maybe it's a more realistic representation of "humanity," but it doesn't make for a great story.
andythinkpad
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Ridley Scott is just upset he can't make a trilogy prequels to ruin Blade Runner.
Ask the Terminator.
Master Of Illusion
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I thought he revealed this already during one of the Final Cut interviews...
Merchandise
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I'd wager am cry is at least 3.8 times as well known as bomba
Simo
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Oooooh shit. Good eye and I forgot about that. Wasn't in that Fancher script and scene where Deckard confirms the replicant identity by removing its lower jaw?
Also from what I can remember I'm pretty sure Fancher wrote a draft where Deckard was a replicant but always sided with the idea that he wasn't and defends it to this day.
Ridley is off his rocker. He told EW last year that when he finished the original film he always envisioned a series of follow ups, it just took 35 years to get one of them done.
Intheflorsh
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Of course he's a replicant. It's the least ambiguous ambiguous ending of all time.
NullPointer
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Wasn't it the Director's cut that added that Unicorn dream to the film in the first place?
So why is it odd that the Director would make clear what that scene already does?
So why is it odd that the Director would make clear what that scene already does?