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adrockthekid said:
I don't know if you could convincingly argue this. In very high levels of play it's sort of a wash - in TFT good players can harass/scout worker's with Spirit Wolves, hold off the enemy hero with a Farseer, creep with 3-4 Grunts, scout for early expands with a peon, and manage resources, building placement, and a steady climb up the tech tree all concurrently. On the other hand SC is a decidedly faster game with a higher emphasis on counter units and scouting, so you only see the effects of good micro with better-than-average players. The larger unit cap and quicker battles means that micro in many cases is actually faster and harder, albeit perhaps with less spellcasting and worrying about losing your one, big superunit.
adrockthekid
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I guess what I was thinking is mostly that you're not required to manual-cast everything with caster units in WC3, and the lower unit cap in WC3 lets you concentrate your attention a little more on what's happening. Could be I'm wrong; I've never been better than 'average' or 'slightly above average' at competitive RTS. Never devoted the time to really get good.
But IMO they're both classics. It's just that all of the SC fanboys trying to say that WC3 is 'crap' because it's not as simplistic as SC gets me pissed.
(note: "simplistic" is *not* a value statement. Whether SC's streamlined approach is good or bad is more a matter of taste than anything else)
But IMO they're both classics. It's just that all of the SC fanboys trying to say that WC3 is 'crap' because it's not as simplistic as SC gets me pissed.
(note: "simplistic" is *not* a value statement. Whether SC's streamlined approach is good or bad is more a matter of taste than anything else)
I don't regard WC3 as crap, I even said it was a good game but as an RTS game I say that SC wins hands down.
Based on that and the experience of playing their latest game WoW to a great extent (numerous hours of lvl 60 stuff) I say that Blizzard has in fact gotten worse. Maybe it's the Vivendi influence or something, I don't know.
Based on that and the experience of playing their latest game WoW to a great extent (numerous hours of lvl 60 stuff) I say that Blizzard has in fact gotten worse. Maybe it's the Vivendi influence or something, I don't know.
radioheadrule83
Banned
terrene said:
I didn't say it was.
I didn't say that either. I said -- if I could unleash an internet transmittable AIDS virus to everyone in the thread (including myself) then I would... and no, not because I:
I said I'd do it simply because I think there are worse things out there than Nintendo or Blizzard products to be pissed off / generally-negative about. It's a misunderstanding and a serious poor judgement of my character if you think I meant it with any venom. What kind of person wishes AIDS on people and means it? Not me matey. ♥ I thought I'd given the post enough of a jokey tone to convey that.
Commendable.
I've said something like this to you before sans the harsh language
I can practice what I preach if others will..Cheer up. The best posts here (yours included) are made by people talking about things they like... not the ones where people attack others for liking things that perhaps, they themselves don't.
Drinky Crow
Banned
Sorry; I find slapfighting more interesting than circle jerks. Negativity for the win!
:lol Nope. I played Diablo 2, by the way. It was real boring, but I guess it wasn't my kind of game. I like something adventurous, not some stupid clickfest with a bazillion monsters filling my screen and stuff. Blizzard really didn't make so many good games at all. WoW is great, Warcarft series are great and I'm sure Starcraft must be good but that's where it ends. Nintendo is the one blowing Blizzard away (pun intended). Blizzard came with the game Diablo in 1996, and Nintendo came with Wace Race 64, Super Mario 64, redefining 3D while they were at it. Blizzard came with Starcraft in 1998, while Nintendo came with Ocarina of Time (my fav game ever). Diablo 2? Majoras Mask. I can go on but Nintendo has made so many more games than Blizzard and the games are just plain better and more enjoyable to me.terrene said:
Drinky Crow
Banned
You have kiddy tastes.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Drinky Crow said:
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Drinky Crow
Banned
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Drek said:
Just a question of curiosity, how old were you when you originally played Mario 3? Cause after playing it again after 10, 15 years of aging, its not that hard.
:lol Yep.Ruzbeh said:
<Ruzbeh's rant about games for 5-year-olds deleted>
Gee, why didn't you add Duck Duck Goose and Tiddlywinks to your little "best of"? Because Nintendo didn't invent them?
Seriously though, saying "Majora's Mask" is in the same league as Diablo 2 is a bit ridiculous. Zelda: MM isn't *nearly* the timeless classic that Diablo 2 is, and that's coming from someone who is totally gay for Ocarina of Time. Also, Blizzard releases a game once in a blue moon and they are invariably incredible, while Nintendo makes us put up with shit like Mario Party *6* and Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Super Mario Bros 3 is in my opinion much easier than Mario Sunshine when comparing the most difficult parts of each game.
Zelda Majora's Mask is the fucking best 3D experience I ever had, absolutely on par with Yoshis Island (which is the best 2D experience I ever had ^^) and I've played many games, including several Blizzard games and MM is definatly a timeless classic. It's absolutely original, loaded with a bunch of fantastic ideas and the time feature sets it apart every other Zelda game.
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat is gorgeous. Of course it's not a game on par with Zelda Majoras Mask, but it has many really good ideas. Leveldesign is brilliant, playing with the Bongocontroller is a really good idea and important for someone like you who is complaining about kiddy games (idiotic ^^): it is quite dark for a Donkey Kong game.
Zelda Majora's Mask is the fucking best 3D experience I ever had, absolutely on par with Yoshis Island (which is the best 2D experience I ever had ^^) and I've played many games, including several Blizzard games and MM is definatly a timeless classic. It's absolutely original, loaded with a bunch of fantastic ideas and the time feature sets it apart every other Zelda game.
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat is gorgeous. Of course it's not a game on par with Zelda Majoras Mask, but it has many really good ideas. Leveldesign is brilliant, playing with the Bongocontroller is a really good idea and important for someone like you who is complaining about kiddy games (idiotic ^^): it is quite dark for a Donkey Kong game.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Hm, I don't know, what's wrong about my posting, but I'm going to try to explain what I wanted to say.
The first point was, that I experienced Super Mario Sunshine as a more difficult game than Super Mario Bros 3.
The second paragraph is an answer to terrenne's last posting in which he says, Zelda MM can't stand against Diablo 2. I contradict this by saying, that Zelda MM imo is one of the best games ever done and for me it's the best of all 3D games.
The last point is an answer to Terrene's last sentence in which he describes DK JB as shit. I said, that DK JB has a great level design and a good gameplay. Using the Bongos for a Jump&Run is a good idea in my opinion. And finally, the darker setting when compared to older DK games in my opinion should attract gamer's who want Nintendo to not make as "kiddy" games, as Mario, Zelda TWW etc. I hope, this posting makes my last posting easier to understand.
The first point was, that I experienced Super Mario Sunshine as a more difficult game than Super Mario Bros 3.
The second paragraph is an answer to terrenne's last posting in which he says, Zelda MM can't stand against Diablo 2. I contradict this by saying, that Zelda MM imo is one of the best games ever done and for me it's the best of all 3D games.
The last point is an answer to Terrene's last sentence in which he describes DK JB as shit. I said, that DK JB has a great level design and a good gameplay. Using the Bongos for a Jump&Run is a good idea in my opinion. And finally, the darker setting when compared to older DK games in my opinion should attract gamer's who want Nintendo to not make as "kiddy" games, as Mario, Zelda TWW etc. I hope, this posting makes my last posting easier to understand.
And let's not forget such unchildish efforts as Viewtiful Joe, Under the Skin, Gregory Horror Show and the 10 MegaMan games annually...terrene said:
Are you kidding? 2 of Square Enix's 3 major franchises are aimed at children.terrene said:
Ocarina fags almost always miss Majora's inherent brilliance. Don't worry, you're far from alone in your ignorance.terrene said:
He's right about SMB3 being easier than SMS. It defintiely is.
.. But uh, the "quite dark for a DK game" thing.. yeah..
I dunno about that one.
(And if you really want to argue about it, DKC2 was probably the "darkest" DK game just because almost every stage was very dark in color and settings, but come on now.)
.. But uh, the "quite dark for a DK game" thing.. yeah..
I dunno about that one.
(And if you really want to argue about it, DKC2 was probably the "darkest" DK game just because almost every stage was very dark in color and settings, but come on now.)
Bluemercury
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Drek said:
Its called THe bIAz