hikarutilmitt
Member
Why does the HUD (what little there is) resemble, so much, the one from Ninja Gaiden?
But hey, Wayforward on a console. I'm there.
But hey, Wayforward on a console. I'm there.
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Bloodrayne: Betrayal - XBLA, PSN (developed by WayForward) [Up: First Screenshot]
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Criminal Upper
Banned
What am I looking at?
Why is Rayne blurred? And is this 2D, or some weird cell-shaded 2.5D thing? Can't tell.
What a poor first screenshot.
Why is Rayne blurred? And is this 2D, or some weird cell-shaded 2.5D thing? Can't tell.
What a poor first screenshot.
Cow Mengde
Banned
Oh wow, Wayforward gotta check this out -- WTF?
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Can't see shit really, hope they release a real screenshot soon.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Ugly screenshot. And no nazis, boo. I want to kill nazis.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
I will buy this game on principle if I can kill sparkly vampires. DO IT!
Old Gimlet Eyes
Member
Hey release a screenshot with the title character blurred out, awesome! Interested in this as the last 2 games were mindless fun.
green sticker
Neo Member
ultron87 said:
I can't tell either. This seems like a huge change from previous games? However, I've never played any of the Blood Rayne games. Am I missing out?
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
careksims said:
Shes blurred out, to the right of the image.
Certainly a bad screenshot to show.
hikarutilmitt
Member
Raging Spaniard said:
Maybe they're trying to cover up that this game is actually a sequel to
Shantae
Vampire Shantae
Family Fry
Member
Think its more of a teaser image as they said they are not ready to show off new Rayne design.
Dog Problems
Banned
This is definitely a day one purchase. It's probably been stated already, but I think this is the first game they've done, in quite awhile, that hasn't been released on a Nintendo console or handheld.
Oni Link 666
Member
Is she going to be running around topless or something? Why is she censored?
I don't like style. It's too clean. It looks more like a Cartoon Network show than their past sprite work.
I don't like style. It's too clean. It looks more like a Cartoon Network show than their past sprite work.
Ahoi-Brause
Banned
Why isn't this pixel based?
Those huge sprites look like something from a flash cartoon.
Those huge sprites look like something from a flash cartoon.
Probably not the best choice for a single first screenshot.
Also, wtf at the "looks like a flash cartoon" whenever hand-drawn 2D is shown. I thought we had gotten past this crap.
Because high res pixel art is a pain in the ass to animate, plain and simple.Ahoi-Brause said:
Also, wtf at the "looks like a flash cartoon" whenever hand-drawn 2D is shown. I thought we had gotten past this crap.
Ahoi-Brause
Banned
No wai, making something that looks nice is such torture. Too much effort let's just make everything look like shovelware instead.Jocchan said:
That's bullshit and you know it.
What's the benefit if it looks cheap as shit?
The scott pilgrim game pulled the pixel look off fine and so do the new king of fighters games.
Spoiler:
Having a job and being serious about it can be a pain in the ass. That's the whole fucking point of having a job in the first place.
That's also the reason why many western games show a terrifying lack of artistic vision, because some babies cry how it would bo OH SO HARD to actually put effort into it.
...Ahoi-Brause said:
Dude, really? I gave you the reason why hand-drawn animation can be preferred to pixel art (much easier and cheaper), no need to melt down against LAZY DEVS too unprofessional to do their job.
No, devs are not lazy. No, they are not unprofessional. Devs have deadlines and limited budgets, and need to finish a game under those conditions. Games aren't made with fairy dust and magic, you know.
Flying_Phoenix
Banned
Stumpokapow said:
Which is odd since A Boy and His Blob bombed.
cj_iwakura said:
Contra 4 really is worthy of its numbered title.
The game was incredible. It was literally a lost SNES game (or more like a SNES 32X game).
Ahoi-Brause said:
Pixel art is very time consuming and expensive. Hand drawn isn't that time consuming and is very cheap.
B_Rik_Schitthaus
Banned
Jocchan said:
Most people don't realize the stigma for flash is about tweening, they just assume that using the program in any way is lazy.
Flying_Phoenix
Banned
B_Rik_Schitthaus said:
Even "programming" the characters to animate is a lot more work than people think. Its a real mystery to me why people think this. Though not as big of a reason why people use Flash to animate with. Its the Windows XP of the animation world.
brotkasten
Member
I'd love a new Bloodrayne for this generations consoles, but I have no interest in this one. It looks just bad. Baaaad.
Ahoi-Brause
Banned
The stigma about drawing with flash is that it automatically smoothes lines if you don't turn that feature off and things end up looking undynamic and stiff.B_Rik_Schitthaus said:
And I'm not debating here that creating games is hard work, it's just no excuse to be sloppy. "Oh my job is so hard and I got deadlines, that's why things look subpar".
That might be the case and it's a sad fact, but on the other hand - why shouldn't this excuse anyone from criticism?
When the deadlines are harsh you have to find a way to make things look nice and to survive creating the game.
The negative stigma for Flash is mostly due to the association most people make with cheap amateur-ish games.B_Rik_Schitthaus said:
Going for an artstyle more suitable for your budget, in this case a cartoon/anime-ish style, is neither sloppy nor lazy.Ahoi-Brause said:
Or are you implying every single game, downloadable or not, should look like Crysis "just because"? I hope you're not.
It's reasonable to complain about the execution (I, for one, don't think sprites and bg mesh well in this screenshot, and so many assets scream "placeholder" to me), but yelling at a cloud for lazy devs not bothering to do stuff well beyond their budget, as 720p pixel art is likely to be even with WayForward employing extremely talented animators, is definitely not reasonable.
SolidSnakex
Member
That looks... OK?
Not sure what to make up from those screens. I don't really like the art style so far.
The most interesting question is the gameplay - is this going to be a standard 2D side-scrolling beat 'em up or will it have anything to do with Vampires gameplay wise aside from the background story?
Not sure what to make up from those screens. I don't really like the art style so far.
The most interesting question is the gameplay - is this going to be a standard 2D side-scrolling beat 'em up or will it have anything to do with Vampires gameplay wise aside from the background story?
Santerestil
Banned
Uh, new screenshoots! ... And we can't yet seen Rayne face, uhmmm...
Many lament about the art style (too cartonish, and the amount of blood is ridiculous), but for me, that worst is the GUI: they're really using A Comic-Sans look-a-like for that?!?
Many lament about the art style (too cartonish, and the amount of blood is ridiculous), but for me, that worst is the GUI: they're really using A Comic-Sans look-a-like for that?!?
Criminal Upper
Banned
Wow, that art style sure is different, but I like it. Definitely using the team from Boy and His Blob on this.
SolidSnakeX, can you please settle on a profile pic?
SolidSnakeX, can you please settle on a profile pic?
cool_dude_2049
Banned
At first I was like, "OMG New bloodrayne game!!!"
Now... i'm not so sure.
Now... i'm not so sure.
Really not liking the points board there. Big opaque obstruction that blots out 1/4 of the action on the screen, and a horrible font to boot. Either make less obtrusive notifications that pop up one at a time, or move it to the top left where there's some space to play with.
WayForward? These are the people who made Contra 4 and Shantae. That's a damn good pedigree if you ask me. Plus they're working in their element, side-scrollers, and with what looks to be some slick art direction (silhouette levels recall DKCR). I always thought of BloodRayne as a low-tier franchise, but if anyone can breathe respectable life into it, it might as well be these guys. 
