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[Bloomberg] Apple to Allow Outside App Stores in Overhaul Spurred by EU Laws
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DeepEnigma
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Tim Sweeney right now,
Cyberpunkd
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Maiden Voyage
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Cyberpunkd
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No? The prices of the iPhone are in no way subsidized by the App Store revenue, quite the opposite - a lot of people buy new phones way before they need to due to contract with their carrier (so roughly 24 months). Also vast, vast majority of people never spend a dime in the App Store.
AJUMP23
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Let us know when you need help with Germany again.EU: exists
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Didn't guess you were Russian.
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Bragr
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Don't try to talk WW2 with Americans, they hid until the last inning, they don't know what really happened.
Being run by all those closet fascists does have advantagesEU: exists
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chromhound
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Missing USB-C and I'm switching
Bitmap Frogs
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That’s coming apparently. Courtesy of another EU requirement.
I have to say, as iPhone user I don’t feel comfortable with alternative app stores. Apple is allow to charge developers whatever they want no matter if they use the store or not, which means the only value alternative stores have for their operators is your data…
squeakywheel
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Glad this is finally happening in Europe at least. I hope it percolates to all regions sooner than later. This helps explain their big move into ads. At some point they'll be no different to Google in terms of using users as the product.
Cyberpunkd
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Missing USB-C and I'm switching
EU Gives Final Approval to Law That Will Force iPhone to Switch to USB-C
The European Union today gave final approval to legislation that will force technology companies like Apple to switch to USB-C across a wide range of...
www.macrumors.com
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jufonuk
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GeekyDad
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Which makes me wonder who lobbied for this.
HoodWinked
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This could potentially be neutral for Apple. They may be able to put their app store on Android phones. Considering Android has the larger user base they could potentially gain users.
But EU is about as dumb as California in the way thier retarded Prop 65 regulation has spammed products with a pointless cancer disclaimer, EU cookies regulation is responsible for all the annoying spamming of cookie prompts and popups.
But EU is about as dumb as California in the way thier retarded Prop 65 regulation has spammed products with a pointless cancer disclaimer, EU cookies regulation is responsible for all the annoying spamming of cookie prompts and popups.
Mistake
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Pop up blockers now include an option to block those prompts. Took a while though.
Sounds like there will still be an “approval” process if apple will charge for access to create an alternative app store. But optimally, this will lead for less reason to jailbreak
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The EU giveth (Apple being forced to stop some bullshit) and the EU taketh away (new and, frankly existing, med device products which can’t get approvals because of how fucking insane the regs have gotten)EU: exists
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chromhound
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Heard iPhone 15 pro models are getting usb 3.2 and poor people models are getting 2.0
The paranoia over medical devices is appropriate. I have a practice doing hardware reviews for US and EU requirements. So many critical devices send control traffic over plaintext without any mutual auth because it was always assumed that the devices would be on "secure and isolated" networks. Most medical devices wouldn't even be allowed on corporate networks by modern standards.
AJUMP23
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I haven't used a wired connection to put anything on my phone in years. Every time I do it messes up my artwork and albums in my phone.
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I’m talking devices that are disposable/single use or medium to long term implants being either held up during notified body review, or flat out taken off the market because it’s not worth the time and money to maintain the CE marking given the new MDR requirements. In one case I have first hand knowledge of, dialysis catheters had to be pulled from the market worldwide outside the US because the CE mark expired while going through the renewal process, and continuing to market the product with the CE mark on it would violate terms with the notified body.
Data privacy is pretty much out of my purview so I don’t really have an opinion on that. But the MDR requirements have given every med tech company heartburn and are, in my opinion, depriving EU patients of critical devices. If you need dialysis and can’t get it, you die.
It's not so much data privacy. I've taken over anesthesia machines and mag dumped them into a dummy patient because the device security was abysmal. The wireless portion of some implants which are used for diagnostics can also introduce vectors for attack. I agree that there should be no interruption to patient care while the issues are resolved though.
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Interesting. I honestly don’t work much with anything electrical, sorta getting into some endoscopy equipment though. I would think there’s an ISO standard that would cover cybersecurity issues and the manufacturer would need to verify its adherence to it?
You have forgotten to mention 720p camera and CD combo driver
ISO produces standards. Regulators decide which standards to apply towards medical devices. The old regulatory requirements languished far behind the technical advanced of modern healthcare. New stringent tech reviews such as the FDA requirement for device testing are an attempt to right the ship.
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Right, and EU typically adopts the latest applicable harmonized standards and requires adherence far sooner than FDA does…at least in my experience. FDA is far more open to rationales and negotiation and practical than a lot of other regulatory bodies
Regulators are still hashing out the details for compliance. The EU issued guidance back in 2019 which suggested a bunch of standards but none were considered correct. ISO doesn't really cover device security directly except as a subset of ISO 14xxx and ISO 27000. The manufacturers I work with require tests for compliance with UL2900 as a stop gap but it only covers network connectivity and not other vectors. It's an interesting time to be in the field though probably not the best place to continue our discussion
Torrent of Pork
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So how exactly do they plan to charge developers for IoS access when they sideload?
Mistake
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A deal will probably be made with the other app store and what they annually get. Purchases might go through them like the normal app store
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