The Abominable Snowman
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I have a question for MS: Why?
there are tons of more dangerous options that could have as big or a bigger payoff.
there are tons of more dangerous options that could have as big or a bigger payoff.
So if MS secures a dual boot deal will they count each phone as 1 Windows phone or 0.5 Windows Phone? :|
Its been years and years now. Its time to stop pretending that noone knows WP devices exist, they do, they just don't want to buy them in their current state.
A Galaxy S4 with Windows Phone software would sell gangbusters, for example.
Didn't work when they did the same with the S3.
Didn't work when they did the same with the S3.
Perhaps because it's didn't get the same push as the S3? The Ativ S was pretty much sent to die. Not released in the US and had limited availability in the rest of the world. Not that it would've moved Galaxy S numbers, but 0 marketing doesn't help.
They didn't market it as such. Why not just sell it is the "Galaxy S3 with Windows Phone"
Creating an entirely different brand name for it only works as well as their other Android phones, which amounts to very little. Compare the Galaxy S3 and 4 to their other smart phones, even those that share the Galaxy name without the number. That and not being released in America kind of killed it without even giving it a chance...
This statement is patently false. They are gaining marketshare each quarter while Android falls. In some countries, WP has gained 10 percent marketshare. But, when you basically only have one manufacturer making only a few devices, sales are never going to be amazing. If Samsung, HTC, Sony and so on pumped out a mix of high-end and middle-end WP phones, they would grow even more. A Galaxy S4 with Windows Phone software would sell gangbusters, for example.
the problem with Windows Phone isn't the hardware. It's the lack of apps
They didn't market it as such. Why not just sell it is the "Galaxy S3 with Windows Phone"
Creating an entirely different brand name for it only works as well as their other Android phones, which amounts to very little. Compare the Galaxy S3 and 4 to their other smart phones, even those that share the Galaxy name without the number. That and not being released in America kind of killed it without even giving it a chance...
WSJ: What about your relationship with Microsoft? Has it changed after Nokia began to work more closely with Microsoft on Windows devices?
Mr. Shin: Smartphones and tablets based on Microsoft's Windows operating system aren't selling very well. There is a preference in the market for Android. In Europe, we're also seeing lackluster demand for Windows-based products.
Oh I could bet that if HTC did a dual boot option that MS would count every phone they sold as a WP8 sale guaranteed. It would be straight PR. Even though most people would use the OS that had the apps they wanted. Its been years and years now. Its time to stop pretending that noone knows WP devices exist, they do, they just don't want to buy them in their current state.
That's a reality MS really needs to embrace if they expect to move forward. Do something about the fact that people are actively overlooking your devices, and dual booting ain't the solution to that.
So "lobby" is the new word for "bribery"?
Learning something from politicians I see.
This statement is patently false. They are gaining marketshare each quarter while Android falls.
In some countries, WP has gained 10 percent marketshare.
But, when you basically only have one manufacturer making only a few devices, sales are never going to be amazing. If Samsung, HTC, Sony and so on pumped out a mix of high-end and middle-end WP phones, they would grow even more. A Galaxy S4 with Windows Phone software would sell gangbusters, for example.
Millions of others probably would have though. So not much of a loss.
MS should focus on putting more apps on that thing or it will go the way of the Zune. They put out this hardware then never support it, then wonder why it fails. I am shocked the 360 was even as successful as it was being from MS.
The apps are fine. Lumia is my daily driver. How many of you have used a WP as a daily driver? So many features are baked into WP that you don't really need apps. I use all devices, and the daily award goes to WP - faster, better battery, etc.
But I love me some customization Android! Nexus 4 4.3 with Nova and all dem things is a fun past-time.