RastaMentality
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EDIT: I saw the previous discussion.
I hope Kubo does well seeing as it's getting great reviews.
I hope Kubo does well seeing as it's getting great reviews.
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BO 0805-0716 - Harley & squad Puddin on the ritz, Nine Lives DOA
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Dash_Riprock
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Do we have any rumblings yet for SS weekend numbers?
Note to self
Never use hyperbolic figure of speech on the internet ever again
I don't actually want to murder anybody nor do I feel like the movie did the equivalent of banging my girlfriend. I just find the movie's editing/soundtrack really really really bad.
Its more than that.
Just a wee bit more babes, keep sharpening your knives in the meantime.
I think we'll see a typical 60% ish drop, thats the average I believe. If it's more I'd say that's reflective of the films quality and word of mouth.
PhantomX1313
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SS mon 13.1M - tue 14.27M - wed 9.8M - thu 8.2M = 45.37M
These are pretty strong, no?
People are going to see the movie regardless of reviews. No one cares what a critic thinks about super hero movies. The movie isn't the greatest but it has some fun parts. Absolutely worth watching.
Yeezus H. Christ
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Hm, I think the general audience feels some way about critics and Rotten Tomatoes. Best example is Batman v. Superman's OW which dropped substantially from initial predictions due to the Sunday dive. I'd guess the 34% rating or whatever it had at the time factored into this.
Glory Fades
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Yes it is.
Holding better than Deadpool. Hopefully that does not continue.
It has a ton of competition this weekend. Deadpool didn't have much weekend #2, did it?
Ninja Scooter
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The difference is that the critic/rotten tomatoes reviews translated over into the general consciousness in a way that did not happen with SS. BVS had become meme status before it even came out. It wasn't neccesarily directly from reviews, but more from what those reviews did to the public perception of the movie.
This did movie offend you or something. What kind of talk is that? You know what, I hope it continues.
BronsonLee
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People had a lot more riding on BvS so the reviews definitely mattered more than Squad's
WB turning it into a more 'fun' movie probably made it a worse movie, but it seems like it heavily improved the audience reaction to it
WB turning it into a more 'fun' movie probably made it a worse movie, but it seems like it heavily improved the audience reaction to it
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People don't seem to realise that the reason bvs didn't do a billion was because it was boring and difficult to understand for the younger audiences. No child is going to beg their parents to take them again to see bvs.
Critic reception has little impact.
Suicide squad isnt boring, or overtly long and doesn't take it itself as seriously as bvs. Teenagers are going to watch this a few times.
Critic reception has little impact.
Suicide squad isnt boring, or overtly long and doesn't take it itself as seriously as bvs. Teenagers are going to watch this a few times.
BronsonLee
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Squad also did something very interesting, which is skew heavily A: young and B: female
Just for that sake alone it's a success tapping into that demo. I'm kind of surprised we haven't seen a new one locked in already.
Just for that sake alone it's a success tapping into that demo. I'm kind of surprised we haven't seen a new one locked in already.
PhoncipleBone
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Once again, summer weekdays and regular weekdays are different. Only thing goosed on Deadpool's opening weekend was the Monday being a holiday.
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Jpop
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Why wish for bad things to succeed? It will only lead to more bad things being made because people settled.
I imagine that that is the thought process.
You guys are letting yourselves be taken in by summer weekdays again. I don't think that Suicide Squad is destined for a BvS level 70% drop, but Deadpool was a February film. Its second Friday increased over 100% from its Thursday gross. Summer films don't do that. They have stronger weekdays in proportion to their weekends.
Suicide Squad has had comparable weekday percentage changes to Jason Bourne and Star Trek Beyond over the past two weeks. It had a stronger Monday, but some of its other drops were steeper.
Suicide Squad's first Thursday was 27% of its first Sunday.
Jason Bourne's first Thursday was 25% of its first Sunday.
Star Trek Beyond's first Thursday was 26% of its first Sunday.
If Suicide Squad had the same weekend increases as Jason Bourne, its second weekend would be $46.7M
If Suicide Squad had the same weekend increases as Star Trek Beyond, its second weekend would be $47.2M
Even if you bump that up a bit, we're almost certainly going to see a high 40s/low 50s second weekend.
Deadpool made $56.5M in its second weekend.
Suicide Squad has had comparable weekday percentage changes to Jason Bourne and Star Trek Beyond over the past two weeks. It had a stronger Monday, but some of its other drops were steeper.
Suicide Squad's first Thursday was 27% of its first Sunday.
Jason Bourne's first Thursday was 25% of its first Sunday.
Star Trek Beyond's first Thursday was 26% of its first Sunday.
If Suicide Squad had the same weekend increases as Jason Bourne, its second weekend would be $46.7M
If Suicide Squad had the same weekend increases as Star Trek Beyond, its second weekend would be $47.2M
Even if you bump that up a bit, we're almost certainly going to see a high 40s/low 50s second weekend.
Deadpool made $56.5M in its second weekend.
CaviarMeths
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Audiences skewing young doesn't really lend to good legs though. Usually movies that skew older have the better legs. Teens and young adults with fewer obligations rush out to see movies. Older people with families wait until they can find a babysitter and they can have a theater with fewer obnoxious youths.
And I don't know if the audience being more or less female males a difference either, but the Twilight series having some of the worst legs of all time could be an indicator. Or maybe not. Zack Snyder films, which heavily skew male, also have some of the worst legs of all time. Who knows.
BronsonLee
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Yeah I was mostly just talking about the audience demo, I don't give a fuck about the legs
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Deadline Early Weekend Estimates:
Suicide Squad - $44M (-67%)
Sausage Party - $30-32M
Pete's Dragon - $21M
http://deadline.com/2016/08/weekend-box-office-suicide-squad-sausage-party-petes-dragon-1201802677/
Suicide Squad - $44M (-67%)
Sausage Party - $30-32M
Pete's Dragon - $21M
http://deadline.com/2016/08/weekend-box-office-suicide-squad-sausage-party-petes-dragon-1201802677/
Yeezus H. Christ
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67% is pretty big, no?
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
That'd be in the same range of the Twilight films which is where DC film stands (big open weekend rush, mediocre holdovers).
There needs to be an asterix on these since they are early estimates using Deadline math.
Their early Friday numbers are ~$13M for Sausage Party and Suicide Squad, $7.5M for Pete's Dragon, and $2.5M for Florence Foster Jenkins.
$13M and change for Suicide Squad is between the numbers you would get using Star Trek and Jason Bourne's increases. As I said above, the weekend total following those two paths would be $46-47M
Pete's Dragon seems quite low. No one cares.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Added early in the deadline header.
It seems like a respectable estimate to be honest given the terrible holdovers live-action films have had this summer (Bourne, Star Trek)
If the budget for that movie really is $65 million, then it'll do just fine.
Dash_Riprock
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Was thinking Pete's Dragon would do better after the Jungle Book was the 2nd biggest surprise of the year after Deadpool.
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Beat EviLore at pool.
Jungle Book is a classic Disney movie though that helped. Pete's Dragon not so much.
Jungle Book is one of the most loved Disney franchises. Nobody cares about Pete's Dragon.
PhantomX1313
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SS Heating BO with 179.1M + 185M WW 364.1M
Pretty much as expected. The worldwide weekend will be somewhere around $100M. A bit more or a bit less depending on overseas holds.
DarkLordMalik
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Pete's Bomba
Disney can't catch a break.
Disney can't catch a break.
65% drop for SS seems like a good thing to me considering the weekdays were pretty good. That's a win for WB.
It's getting close to 300M DOM no matter what at this point.
That is a win for WB.
Dash_Riprock
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With its budget, it'll probably still be profitable for them even if it gets below $150 million WW.
DarkLordMalik
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That would require it to get atleast 50+ million domestic and 100+ from the rest of the market, which I doubt it.
The BFG is much more well known (and had Spielberg) than Pete's whatever and yet barely reached 74 million and it is currently below 130 million WW.
They might make back their money but obviously they wanted a good result or a surprise hit.
Pete's Dragon also had about half of the budget of The BGF ($65 million vs $140 million) so even BFG numbers wouldn't make it a bomb.
alfredofroylan
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Pete's Dragon is not as famous as Jungle Book, still looking for a "Darby O'Gill and the Little People" remake.
DarkLordMalik
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So we are getting Pete's Dragon 2 then?
I doubt it, but I also don't think it'll be a bomb even it doesn't do good numbers. It's very appropriately budgeted.
It did do better - it's a success with the critics.
Pete's Dragon is probably selling poorly because the story looks like something that was told a million times before. How many variations of King Kong are we gonna get Hollywood? Seriously. I've seen so many cartoon episodes as a kid watching child/woman befriend misunderstood "dangerous" thing, with everyone eventually trying to kill it. Enough is enough, Jesus.
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