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BO 08•19-21•16 - Bomba-Herp(derp) trampled as Squad slip by the dogs of war

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Sorcerer

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They already release/distribute the fewest films out of the major studios.

The problem is they also release the most popular films of the year so they are releasing a glut of kids movies competing with themselves and other studios kids movies. They need to cut back on the c level kid stuff and find better places for them when they do make them.
 

faridmon

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Wait, Kubo is legitimately good movie? I saw the trailer before Finding Dory's showings and it really looked awful. Mainly the writing seemed childish.
 

BobLoblaw

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I wish I could be paid millions to tell these studios to stop spending hundreds of millions on obvious flops. I mean, movies like the Ben-Hur remake, yet another Ice Age, whitewashing king (aka God of Egypt), Alice through the Looking Glass, and Independence: Resurgence (without Will Smith of all things) would absolutely never have been greenlit by me. How can some studios not see this shit?
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
You know Disney movies and their releases would be a god send for any other studio to deal with

For Disney it was Tuesday before lunch setting up the release schedule for 2017, 2018...
 

kswiston

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Those new openings are all dreadful.

Suicide Squad might just break 300M dom in the end, "massive flop" indeed. Overseas performance is a bit meh but missing China didn't help in that regard.

Suicide Squad will break $300M. It's at the point that I would put down money on it if someone was offering bets.

Batman v Superman made another $34M after its third weekend. Suicide Squad's weekly totals will be higher than BvS for the next 3 weeks.
 

Sorcerer

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I wish I could be paid millions to tell these studios to stop spending hundreds of millions on obvious flops. I mean, movies like the Ben-Hur remake, yet another Ice Age, whitewashing king (aka God of Egypt), Alice through the Looking Glass, and Independence: Resurgence (without Will Smith of all things) would absolutely never have been greenlit by me. How can some studios not see this shit?

The first Alice was huge, a movie nobody liked but made money hand over fist. Thats all the studio considers, not other factors. Just make the movie throw it out there, it should be fine.
 

Alrus

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The issue with Alice 2 is that Disney took way too long to make it, and by that time most people got tired of Johnny Depp on top of the first movie not being very good.

I wish I could be paid millions to tell these studios to stop spending hundreds of millions on obvious flops. I mean, movies like the Ben-Hur remake, yet another Ice Age, whitewashing king (aka God of Egypt), Alice through the Looking Glass, and Independence: Resurgence (without Will Smith of all things) would absolutely never have been greenlit by me. How can some studios not see this shit?

The previous Ice Age made a shitton of money overseas, that's why you got Ice Age 4 and 5. We're probably not getting another one now that the series crashed overseas too. (I'm pretty sure the same will happen to Pirates of the Carribean)

Suicide Squad will break $300M. It's at the point that I would put down money on it if someone was offering bets.

Batman v Superman made another $34M after its third weekend. Suicide Squad's weekly totals will be higher than BvS for the next 3 weeks.

Oh, I thought most people were kinda unsure about it managing to reach that milestone.
 

Sorcerer

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The previous Ice Age made a shitton of money overseas, that's why you got Ice Age 4 and 5. We're probably not getting another one now that the series crashed overseas too. (I'm pretty sure the same will happen to Pirates of the Carribean)

Blue Sky also flopped with The Peanuts Movie. I wonder what the temperature is over at that studio right now.
 

BobLoblaw

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The first Alice was huge, a movie nobody liked but made money hand over fist. Thats all the studio considers, not other factors. Just make the movie throw it out there, it should be fine.
It was huge back when Depp was relevant. His last major blockbuster movie was...Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides? That was over 5 years ago and he's in like 2-3 movies a year it seems.
 
“They went big and they went home.”

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Why does he have a mangina?
 

Sorcerer

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It was huge back when Depp was relevant. His last major blockbuster movie was...Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides? That was over 5 years ago and he's in like 2-3 movies a year it seems.

Alice was the begining of the end for Depp. I love Alice in Wonderland (the book and various adaptations), and I thought his Mad Hatter was the worst, scariest thing a kid could see on screen. Split personality, where the fuck did that come from?
No way the movie made any money because of Depp.
It was 3d coming off of Avatar.

After that he made The Tourist with Jolie and his career went into a landslide.
 

Mrbob

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Saw War Dogs last night, was alright. Relative to Kubo though had a family in front asking what the movie was about. I think marketing failed the movie. Good reviews should keep it going strong though.

Oh and Bad Moms with another great hold. The real MVP of summer movies.
 
Paramount am cry. Can't wait to see Ben Hur get kicked out of 2,000 theaters next weekend.

Star Trek deserved better. I'm little shocked that Kubo only took 4th, and that Sausage Party is still going strong.

Is Pete's Dragon bombing?
 
I wish I could be paid millions to tell these studios to stop spending hundreds of millions on obvious flops. I mean, movies like the Ben-Hur remake, yet another Ice Age, whitewashing king (aka God of Egypt), Alice through the Looking Glass, and Independence: Resurgence (without Will Smith of all things) would absolutely never have been greenlit by me. How can some studios not see this shit?

Ice age will be profitable, if not already is.
 
Paramount has nothing but Transformers and Mission Impossible. The former is due for a huge Ice Age drop and the later is stalled since Cruise wants more money apparently.
 

Sorcerer

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I think studios need to consider that kids cannot take the car to movies and drive themselves there.
It's probably quite an expensive effort to round up kids and go the movies.
Having a kids movie out every single week is really a bad idea, never mind if it is shit on top.
 
I noticed that in all my theaters near me they all had very limited showtimes for Kubo. They all only have one standard showtime for today. I wonder if it's across the board for all other theaters which could be the reason why it didn't do well.
Wait, Kubo is legitimately good movie? I saw the trailer before Finding Dory's showings and it really looked awful. Mainly the writing seemed childish.
It's a good contender for best animated movie this year.
 

Sorcerer

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I noticed that in all my theaters near me they all had very limited showtimes for Kubo. They all only have one standard showtime for today. I wonder if it's across the board for all other theaters which could be the reason why it didn't do well.

I think attendance on Alice was so bad that my local theaters pulled it in less than 2 weeks, witch is shocking for a Disney Movie. Get that shit out of my theater.
 

Casimir

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I wish I could be paid millions to tell these studios to stop spending hundreds of millions on obvious flops. I mean, movies like the Ben-Hur remake, yet another Ice Age, whitewashing king (aka God of Egypt), Alice through the Looking Glass, and Independence: Resurgence (without Will Smith of all things) would absolutely never have been greenlit by me. How can some studios not see this shit?


Other GAF members have mentioned that there were contractual agreements that forced Disney's hand into producing the Alice sequel.
 

kswiston

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My movie of the year for 2017 already

Lucas Till is a 26 year old man who is playing a 17 year old in Monster Trucks, and just finished playing a 37 year old who forgot to age along with the rest of the X-Men First Class to Apocalpyse cast. Such range!

Other GAF members have mentioned that there were contractual agreements that forced Disney's hand into producing the Alice sequel.

Disney is pretty blatant in their apathy in those cases. Also see BFG, which was the tail end of their Dreamworks deal.
 

goldenpp72

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I've come to the sad conclusion that most moviegoers do not like Laika's style.

To be fair, I enjoyed both Paranorman and Coraline (I think it's the same studio) and saw both in theaters, but Kubo seemed unappealing to me. Like, I look at their movies as abstract and unique films, but all the ads make it seem like a generic bunch of lame jokes in a generic adventure kind of movie. If it's more than what it seems, that's a disservice done by the marketing. It just felt like the movie was trying to cater more to the audience that prefers more cliche style stories while retaining interesting visuals.

I'd like to see it sometime just to see myself, but it sure didn't capture me. Unless lines like "Don't mess with the monkey (spoken by a monkey named Monkey, haha) compel you of course, but the try hard monkey and the goofy buffoon side kick mixed with generic kid finding himself to become the hero story just doesn't feel as unique as their other stuff.
 

A Human Becoming

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What's getting included under the Disney Animation banner? All of their CG animated film since Tangled have been $150M+
The numbers came from this article. The beginning date is 1991, so all their movies starting with Beauty and the Beast I suspect. Seeing as it's in 2016 dollars I assume that's accounting for inflation, which would put the budget for BatB hovering around $44 million. I imagine Winnie the Pooh is also counted and that only had a budget of $30 million ($32mil today).
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
I've come to the sad conclusion that most moviegoers do not like Laika's style.

The commercials were annoying
Rather than showcase the movie, the ads just felt tiring

All I know was a talking monkey, some huge beetle looking dude, kid named Kubo and the punchline, "if you're monkey, I'm beetle, why isn't he boy..."
Then they showed the monkey always being a hardass
 

Sorcerer

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Florence Foster Jenkins deserves better.
Fantastic movie.

I am sure the biggest expense on that movie is paying Streep. I think it will do fine, it just looks scary because of its position, surely it will do well on home video to an audience who can't be bothered actually tracking it down too see at the theater. (Consider only 1528 theaters to see it in).
 
To be fair, I enjoyed both Paranorman and Coraline (I think it's the same studio) and saw both in theaters, but Kubo seemed unappealing to me. Like, I look at their movies as abstract and unique films, but all the ads make it seem like a generic bunch of lame jokes in a generic adventure kind of movie. If it's more than what it seems, that's a disservice done by the marketing. It just felt like the movie was trying to cater more to the audience that prefers more cliche style stories while retaining interesting visuals.

I'd like to see it sometime just to see myself, but it sure didn't capture me. Unless lines like "Don't mess with the monkey (spoken by a monkey named Monkey, haha) compel you of course, but the try hard monkey and the goofy buffoon side kick mixed with generic kid finding himself to become the hero story just doesn't feel as unique as their other stuff.

The commercials were annoying
Rather than showcase the movie, the ads just felt tiring

All I know was a talking monkey, some huge beetle looking dude, kid named Kubo and the punchline, "if you're monkey, I'm beetle, why isn't he boy..."
Then they showed the monkey always being a hardass
All the jokes and dialogue from Monkey and Beetle work better in the context of the movie than in the trailers.
 
Lucas Till is a 26 year old man who is playing a 17 year old in Monster Trucks, and just finished playing a 37 year old who forgot to age along with the rest of the X-Men First Class to Apocalpyse cast. Such range!

Movie of the decade

Lucas Till gonna be the next Keanu bruh

We must stop Hollywood before it's too late

who ever is making these thread titles needs to be banned.

You'll never take me alive
 

duckroll

Member
I guess this proves once and for all that there's no place for biblical epics in the 21st century?

Still for the life of me can't rationalize why Passion was so successful. Must be the latent sadism in everyone.

Passion was a well made and passionate (duhhh) project which is very faithful to the religious source. It replicates the Passion with an level of detail never before seen on screen, so it was a huge deal.

Noah is a very alternative take on biblical material, by a director who makes interest and provocative films which never quite have mass appeal.

Exodus is a bland and boring film which adapts a story everyone already knows without adding anything particularly interesting to it. The story of Moses done on screen for the 500th time is about as exciting as a new Hamlet adaptation.

Ben Hur is a terrible looking remake of a beloved classic, done in a totally cynical and half-assed way, without much serious marketing.

I think a good comparison would be that Passion of the Christ is to Biblical films what Avengers was to comic book films. Meanwhile Noah is Ang Lee's Hulk, Exodus is Superman Returns, and Ben Hur is Catwoman.
 

Shig

Strap on your hooker ...
The film looks beautiful, but those character designs could not be less appealing.

Who decided that every animated film needs monstrously hideous protagonists? Zootopia is the lone exception this year.
I think Kubo's protag designs look a hell of a lot more appealing than Boxtrolls' did.
 
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