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BO 0819-2116 - Bomba-Herp(derp) trampled as Squad slip by the dogs of war
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Gentleman Jack
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Kubo might just be my favourite LAIKA picture yet. How the fuck did it have such a bad opening?
People have bad taste.
Nappuccino
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The name is terribad for starters
Kubo And The Two Strings
And yet, the perfect name for the movie. I teared up, man.
CaviarMeths
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You know that we have entered the slow box office period when you guys spend a page fighting over Mission Impossible movies when nothing remotely related to Mission Impossible in even in theatres.
Well, there was something I wanted to bring up, but it felt like beating a dead horse.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?view=weekend&id=augustopen.htm
Top August openers all had drops under 40% in their 4th weekends. So even if Suicide Squad maintains that 45% for the weekend, its still coming in markedly under its comp set. Its fourth Friday was even lower than Bourne Ultimatum, a movie that opened half as big.
To its credit though, the biggest opener that any of those other four movies faced was If I Stay at $14.6m.
EDIT: Actually, it looks like those other four movies combined had only five weekends with a 50% drop in their entire runs. All four of them in the 2nd weekend, then Ninja Turtles again in the 10th weekend. It'll be interesting to see if Suicide Squad can top that by itself.
Sibersk Esto
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Kubo might just be my favourite LAIKA picture yet. How the fuck did it have such a bad opening?
People do not like the aesthetic. Best you can hope for is respect for the stop motion.
Gordon Shumway
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People do not like the aesthetic. Best you can hope for is respect for the stop motion.
Funny enough, my kid said no to giving it a watch because it reminded her of Coraline. Seems that movie gave her the creeps because of the animation style..go figure.
Well, there was something I wanted to bring up, but it felt like beating a dead horse.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?view=weekend&id=augustopen.htm
Top August openers all had drops under 40% in their 4th weekends. So even if Suicide Squad maintains that 45% for the weekend, its still coming in markedly under its comp set. Its fourth Friday was even lower than Bourne Ultimatum, a movie that opened half as big.
To its credit though, the biggest opener that any of those other four movies faced was If I Stay at $14.6m.
EDIT: Actually, it looks like those other four movies combined had only five weekends with a 50% drop in their entire runs. All four of them in the 2nd weekend, then Ninja Turtles again in the 10th weekend. It'll be interesting to see if Suicide Squad can top that by itself.
Suicide Squad has shit legs. It's just that shit legs in August are better than shit legs in May or March.
People have bad taste.
Ding ding ding!
Messofanego
Banned
Well, that's a depressing thought.Man of Steel might be the greatest film in this DC Cinematic Universe once all is said and done.
C'mon Wonder Woman!
I don't mind them either, I just wish they had "box office" in it, so it would be easier to find.
I second this motion.
AdventureRacing
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Kubo might just be my favourite LAIKA picture yet. How the fuck did it have such a bad opening?
People just don't like that style of animation. It also isn't that appealing to kids which is the primary audience for that type of movie. That plus the movie was poorly marketed and in general didn't get much marketing at all. There are a lot of animated movies nowadays and it's a competitive market, some movies will be left behind.
Suicide Squad has shit legs. It's just that shit legs in August are better than shit legs in May or March.
It does have shit legs, but the marketing team at WB deserve a pay rise for getting SS to almost 300 million dom.
Messofanego
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Wallace and Gromit is popular and that's British even.People just don't like that style of animation. It also isn't that appealing to kids which is the primary audience for that type of movie. That plus the movie was poorly marketed and in general didn't get much marketing at all. There are a lot of animated movies nowadays and it's a competitive market, some movies will be left behind.
Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit $192.6 million
Shaun The Sheep $106 million
I doubt kids hate stopmotion. I believe and agree that it's for the other reasons, didn't get much marketing and kind of a crowded market for kids animated films.
Kubo might just be my favourite LAIKA picture yet. How the fuck did it have such a bad opening?
Sadly its probably due to the Asian setting.
Looks like Don't Breathe and Suicide Squad both had good Saturdays. Don't Breathe bucked the horror trend and increased on Saturday proper. The weekend take will end up in the $26-27M range.
Suicide Squad may end up around $12M
Shaun the sheep only made $22M domestic. None ir those stop action films make a ton here. I think Chicken Run is the only one past $100M.
Suicide Squad may end up around $12M
Wallace and Gromit is popular and that's British even.
Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit $192.6 million
Shaun The Sheep $106 million
I doubt kids hate stopmotion. I believe and agree that it's for the other reasons, didn't get much marketing and kind of a crowded market for kids animated films.
Shaun the sheep only made $22M domestic. None ir those stop action films make a ton here. I think Chicken Run is the only one past $100M.
All this DCU talk caused me to pop in BvS last night to watch with my wife again.
I think one thing that I just can't get passed is how unreasonably terrible Eisenberg is as Luthor. I'm not sure if it's mostly script or his depiction of the character but it's hard to watch and brings down every scene he's in.
There's no character in MoS like THAT.
I think one thing that I just can't get passed is how unreasonably terrible Eisenberg is as Luthor. I'm not sure if it's mostly script or his depiction of the character but it's hard to watch and brings down every scene he's in.
There's no character in MoS like THAT.
Freeza Under The Shower
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Wallace and Gromit is popular and that's British even.
Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit $192.6 million
Shaun The Sheep $106 million
I doubt kids hate stopmotion. I believe and agree that it's for the other reasons, didn't get much marketing and kind of a crowded market for kids animated films.
I suspect it's more a case of parents seeing 'odd' art and having an immediate 'nope' response combined with kids being more likely to watch home releases than anything in theaters. Tim Burton isn't popular as kids entertainment either.
For example: my toddler cousins all watch stuff like Marsha and The Bear (which I personally think is terrible, but okay) and other material specifically aimed at children. That shit literally prints money too, like Dora the Explorer does. Btw: that kind of shit, like Teletubbies, actually teaches kids LESS than regular education entertainment does. It's mentioned in the book Digital Dementia, and I don't know the exact research link for it, but it turns out all that stuff, much like digital technology, does the opposite of what the marketing claims.
Compare the shallowness of most of these 'for kids CG' movies with the stuff we saw as -a little bit older- kids: Jim Henson's Storyteller, the Dark Crystal, the Freggles (would any parent allow that on tv now? )... hell even Transformers The Movie was more complex and violent -kind of- than that.
I know my view on this isn't popular, because we've done this in a previous thread already, but parenting habits definitely have changed, if only because they have to consider the constant environment their kids now inhabit every single day of their lives.
And given the constant torrent of new things, I think people are more likely to choose 'safe' over 'odd'. The parental setting on Netflix apps and so on may even be biased towards those for the same reason.
All this DCU talk caused me to pop in BvS last night to watch with my wife again.
I think one thing that I just can't get passed is how unreasonably terrible Eisenberg is as Luthor. I'm not sure if it's mostly script or his depiction of the character but it's hard to watch and brings down every scene he's in.
There's no character in MoS like THAT.
They're absolutely is. Pa Kent is horrendous in MOS. So bad. And people justify it with "grounded, realistic, he's a Dad looking out for his son."
Nah, he's an absolute douchebag. Hypocritical piece of shit because the script is so bad that it forgets to either add some likeavory, or make his shittiness intentional. I was flabbergasted watching it that they accidentally made Pa Kent a more despicable villain than fucking Zod.
His last scene in MOS is Catwoman levels of awful, and I'm not being hyperbolic there like Gaf usually is. It was horrendous when I saw in the cinema and every time I rewatch it I actually laugh at how incredible it is that that fucking scene was written and shot and edited and they thought it was the right thing to do.
And it's fitting that the Chris Evans laughing meme uses that gif.
I've seen most superhero films and I would put that scene, no joke, in the top ten "wtf" moments from any of those films.
They're absolutely is. Pa Kent is horrendous in MOS. So bad. And people justify it with "grounded, realistic, he's a Dad looking out for his son."
Nah, he's an absolute douchebag. Hypocritical piece of shit because the script is so bad that it forgets to either add some likeavory, or make his shittiness intentional. I was flabbergasted watching it that they accidentally made Pa Kent a more despicable villain than fucking Zod.
His last scene in MOS is Catwoman levels of awful, and I'm not being hyperbolic there like Gaf usually is. It was horrendous when I saw in the cinema and every time I rewatch it I actually laugh at how incredible it is that that fucking scene was written and shot and edited and they thought it was the right thing to do.
And it's fitting that the Chris Evans laughing meme uses that gif.
I've seen most superhero films and I would put that scene, no joke, in the top ten "wtf" moments from any of those films.
I don't hate him in it as much as you but I do understand what you're saying. The difference - to me - is that pa kent is out of the movie midway through while luthor gets more screen time (and more annoying) as the film reaches it's climax.
Hero_of_the_Day
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All this DCU talk caused me to pop in BvS last night to watch with my wife again.
I think one thing that I just can't get passed is how unreasonably terrible Eisenberg is as Luthor. I'm not sure if it's mostly script or his depiction of the character but it's hard to watch and brings down every scene he's in.
There's no character in MoS like THAT.
Just realized the DCU has the worst Lex and Joker ever. Two most well known villains they have, and they managed to fuck them both up massively. Impressive.
Its the MCU all over againJust realized the DCU has the worst Lex and Joker ever. Two most well known villains they have, and they managed to fuck them both up massively. Impressive.
They haven't fucked up Doom and Osborn. Not yet.Its the MCU all over again
Please God, not ever.
Triggerhappytel
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I don't hate him in it as much as you but I do understand what you're saying. The difference - to me - is that pa kent is out of the movie midway through while luthor gets more screen time (and more annoying) as the film reaches it's climax.
It doesn't help that Lex's entire plan hinges on both Batman ("The World's Greatest Detective") and Superman being brainless thuggish idiots.
Its the MCU all over again
I'll take DCU Luthor and Joker any day.
"The itch in my crotch" is such an awful line it loops around to hilarious.
Messofanego
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I suspect it's more a case of parents seeing 'odd' art and having an immediate 'nope' response combined with kids being more likely to watch home releases than anything in theaters. Tim Burton isn't popular as kids entertainment either.
For example: my toddler cousins all watch stuff like Marsha and The Bear (which I personally think is terrible, but okay) and other material specifically aimed at children. That shit literally prints money too, like Dora the Explorer does. Btw: that kind of shit, like Teletubbies, actually teaches kids LESS than regular education entertainment does. It's mentioned in the book Digital Dementia, and I don't know the exact research link for it, but it turns out all that stuff, much like digital technology, does the opposite of what the marketing claims.
Compare the shallowness of most of these 'for kids CG' movies with the stuff we saw as -a little bit older- kids: Jim Henson's Storyteller, the Dark Crystal, the Freggles (would any parent allow that on tv now? )... hell even Transformers The Movie was more complex and violent -kind of- than that.
I know my view on this isn't popular, because we've done this in a previous thread already, but parenting habits definitely have changed, if only because they have to consider the constant environment their kids now inhabit every single day of their lives.
And given the constant torrent of new things, I think people are more likely to choose 'safe' over 'odd'. The parental setting on Netflix apps and so on may even be biased towards those for the same reason.
Definitely agreed that parents have more of a control of what kind of movies kids watch now, and they would prefer safe over odd or has any darker themes. We all grew up with Neverending Story, Labyrinth, The Land Before Time, Watership Down, Roger Rabbit, heck even Care Bears movie had its scary stuff.
Yeah my uncle's kid (3 years old) watches Marsha and the Bear and I just find it so dumb, like they're probably gonna be dumber after watching this. Thankfully, my other uncle's kids (8-11) watch more substantial stuff like Horrible Histories. I've been able to show them Ghibli films like Totoro. I'm hoping to show them Wolf Children next although I have a feeling it'll be too adult for them and they'll get bored (just because each shot can be longer than 5 seconds and not comedic all the time).
BronsonLee
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If I ever have kids, I'm just going to make them watch the gum monster episode of Ghostwriter over and over again and just tell them it's the local news
Official studio estimates are coming in.
$26.1M for Don't Breathe
$12.1M for Suicide Squad
Awesome numbers for DB. A couple friends went and told me it was very good. I absolutely love well done horror.
Just realized the DCU has the worst Lex and Joker ever. Two most well known villains they have, and they managed to fuck them both up massively. Impressive.
Well I like Jesse's Luthor so eh
But still nothing will top the awful Lex in Superman: Brainiac Attacks or The Joker from Young Justice. Those were bad.
Don't Breathe is going to make bank. Likely under 10 million to produce.
Good, good. One step closer to a Jane Levy Cinematic Universe.
BronsonLee
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Suicide Squad's 42% drop this weekend was the best of any of the comic book films this year in their fourth weekends.
#SupportDCFilms
Ive never watched YJ, but he couldn't have been as bad as Rastafarian Joker from The Batman.Well I like Jesse's Luthor so eh
But still nothing will top the awful Lex in Superman: Brainiac Attacks or The Joker from Young Justice. Those were bad.
#SupportDCFilms
Turns out the best way to support DC films is to release them in a period where no big films are scheduled to drop for like 7 weeks.
Freeza Under The Shower
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Don't Breathe is going to make bank. Likely under 10 million to produce.
Too bad they already cast someone else as Cable for the Deadpool sequel. Sure would suck if they hired someone who can't make a ton a money for them, wink, wink.
Turns out the best way to support DC films is to release them in a period where no big films are scheduled to drop for like 7 weeks.
DC can have March and August then.
CaviarMeths
Member
Fantastic result for Don't Breathe. I'm liking this director and hope for good things for him in future projects.
Ben-Hurts continues
BEN-HUR is an international flop, as well. Paramount's remake scored just $6.3M in 35 markets, $21M total.
Ben-Hurts continues
Ben Hurrmahgerd
DC can have March and August then.
March and April are becoming packed
Turns out the best way to support DC films is to release them in a period where no big films are scheduled to drop for like 7 weeks.
Why do you always try to bring me down?! This is a great day for us at Warner Bros!
ryutaro's mama
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I saw Hell Or High Water with a date last night. Theater was nearly 3/4s full. I thought it was one of he best movies I have seent this year.
March and April are becoming packed
Oh shit. DC can have mid January then
Oh shit. DC can have mid January then
I get that snow can have an impact on a large part of the states, but I LOVE going to the movies in January and February when there isn't much else to do.
I get that snow can have an impact on a large part of the states, but I LOVE going to the movies in January and February when there isn't much else to do.
Same.
Tradition of seeing something on my birthday in January. Good times
Better than I expected. My BO prediction losing streak continuesOfficial studio estimates are coming in.
$26.1M for Don't Breathe
$12.1M for Suicide Squad
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