Yup. Took him 20 years' worth of inflation to do it, but still a fun stat. I doubt he is losing sleep over not being in the ID4 sequel.
Speaking of Suicide Squad, I finally went to see the film this weekend during a 12:40 matinee. My wife and I were 67% of the attendance at that showing.
Overall, I think that the film deserved the reputation that it received. There are some likeable aspects there, but just a ton of missteps as well. One thing that stuck out to me was the unearned sense of camaraderie between the squad by the end of the film. I get that all ensemble films try to sell the group bonding thing within a runtime of 2 hours, but most don't feature a cast of psychopaths who have worked together for all of 30 hours before defeating the big bad.
Reiterating from the last thread (I think), but that was the 2nd worst super hero movie I have ever watched. People either really love DC no matter what or are still giving them the benefit of the doubt for the time being. The marketing was superb, but SS doing ~750MM at the end of its run is like Fan4stic doing $700MM. I thought Fan4stic did way better than it should have done given the quality of the movie, and the same is true for SS, except more exacerbated due to how much SS took in the BO.
Reiterating from the last thread (I think), but that was the 2nd worst super hero movie I have ever watched. People either really love DC no matter what or are still giving them the benefit of the doubt for the time being. The marketing was superb, but SS doing ~750MM at the end of its run is like Fan4stic doing $700MM. I thought Fan4stic did way better than it should have done given the quality of the movie, and the same is true for SS, except more exacerbated due to how much SS took in the BO.
There have been worse comic book films, but it wasn't very good either.
Which is a shame, because I think that a decent comic film could have been made with the same cast and creators. Cut some of the putty fights a bit shorter for more character/team moments. Ditch the generic magic bad guys and save the world plot, and just pit the Suicide Squad against A-List DCU villain, or team team of villains. Unfortunately, they are probably saving all of those for the various other aspects of their cinematic universe. Suicide Squad could have used Deathstroke more than Batman.
I probably would have had two fewer major characters as well. There were 9-10 including Waller and the Joker, which is a bit much for 2 hours. Harley, Deadshot, Rick Flagg, and Diablo were the only Squad members who got any breathing room.
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Also, when your cinematic universe is three films in, you probably shouldn't be repeating the "world destroying machine" that you used in the first film as a plot device
Reiterating from the last thread (I think), but that was the 2nd worst super hero movie I have ever watched. People either really love DC no matter what or are still giving them the benefit of the doubt for the time being. The marketing was superb, but SS doing ~750MM at the end of its run is like Fan4stic doing $700MM. I thought Fan4stic did way better than it should have done given the quality of the movie, and the same is true for SS, except more exacerbated due to how much SS took in the BO.
It has had some decent legs after the initial 2nd weekend drop so I have to imagine WOM is pretty decent with a target audience. It resonated with folks to a fairly decent agree, it can't all be marketing at this point.
It has had some decent legs after the initial 2nd weekend drop so I have to imagine WOM is pretty decent with a target audience. It resonated with folks to a fairly decent agree, it can't all be marketing at this point.
Anecdotally, it didn't resonate with anyone on my circle of friends and colleagues, including people who really liked BvS, but you might be right. People might like DC movies no matter what, which I mentioned in my post.
Reiterating from the last thread (I think), but that was the 2nd worst super hero movie I have ever watched. People either really love DC no matter what or are still giving them the benefit of the doubt for the time being. The marketing was superb, but SS doing ~750MM at the end of its run is like Fan4stic doing $700MM. I thought Fan4stic did way better than it should have done given the quality of the movie, and the same is true for SS, except more exacerbated due to how much SS took in the BO.
I'm not sure if Suicide Squad is actually that bad, or if it's just that the worst part of the movie is the last act, so it leaves you with a horrible impression of the movie overall.
Don't get me wrong, that movie is ass, but it's not completely without redeeming qualities.
I'm not sure if Suicide Squad is actually that bad, or if it's just that the worst part of the movie is the last act, so it leaves you with a horrible impression of the movie overall.
Don't get me wrong, that movie is ass, but it's not completely without redeeming qualities.
Anecdotally, it didn't resonate with anyone on my circle of friends and colleagues, including people who really liked BvS, but you might be right. People might like DC movies no matter what, which I mentioned in my post.
There are some people that liked it not because they forgive all DC movies, but because they thought it did some things well. I'm in that category. I hated Green Lantern (shut it off in the middle and never revisited it). I skipped Hex altogether. I was seriously disappointed with BvS, but I liked Suicide Squad. It's flawed, but I think it's a fair amount better than the consensus opinion. I like many Marvel films more, but Suicide Squad would probably be somewhere toward the middle of Marvel movies if I ranked them.
I'm not sure if Suicide Squad is actually that bad, or if it's just that the worst part of the movie is the last act, so it leaves you with a horrible impression of the movie overall.
Don't get me wrong, that movie is ass, but it's not completely without redeeming qualities.
Seems like everyone I know has seen the movie, it put buts in the seats, but I don't know a single person who thought it was actually good, many outright hated it. Lot of "mehs"
Reiterating from the last thread (I think), . but that was the 2nd worst super hero movie I have ever watched. People either really love DC no matter what or are still giving them the benefit of the doubt for the time being. The marketing was superb, but SS doing ~750MM at the end of its run is like Fan4stic doing $700MM. I thought Fan4stic did way better than it should have done given the quality of the movie, and the same is true for SS, except more exacerbated due to how much SS took in the BO.
Also, when your cinematic universe is three films in, you probably shouldn't be repeating the "world destroying machine" that you used in the first film as a plot device
It'll be nice for there to be another superhero movie that doesn't use this device at all. I can think of two out of the last ten I saw that don't and thanks to that + the relatively small cast of players they were easier to remember than everything else in the Avengersverse. I had hopes for SS. And then I watched it.
They have a weekly long range forecast column. New predictions are always two months out. Right now the predictions arent necessarily accurate but that's their initial guess.
Neither of its trailer has managed to create half as buzz as Suicide Squad or Guardians of the Galaxy. I am going to stick with my prediction of less than 200 million domestic and around 400 million overseas. Could reach half billion if the WOM is good.
$255M for Strange sounds to me to be on the high side, but I guess it could happen if the film is good. This Fall is pretty light in comparison to some previous years.
I will probably go see Doctor Strange, but I have been feeling some major blockbuster burnout in the past 2-3 years. I wish I had more people to go to non-blockbusters with. My wife has a doctorate, but hates thinking while watching films and tv shows.
I'd be surprised if Suicide Squad isn't in the black or extremely close to it.
WB's cut of that $700M is in the $325M range. They will probably take in $340-350M by the time Suicide Squad wraps up its run. Basically the same or a bit better than Guardians of the Galaxy when you factor in the lower cut from China's gross.
The reported production budget was $175M. Marketing was probably another $150-175M. Merchandising seems to be doing well. I didn't really pay attention to product placement in the film, but I am sure there was some.
Based on home video sales for Man of Steel and BvS, it will probably do healthy business there as well.
I'd be surprised if Suicide Squad isn't in the black or extremely close to it.
WB's cut of that $700M is in the $325M range. They will probably take in $340-350M by the time Suicide Squad wraps up its run. Basically the same or a bit better than Guardians of the Galaxy when you factor in the lower cut from China's gross.
The reported production budget was $175M. Marketing was probably another $150-175M. Merchandising seems to be doing well. I didn't really pay attention to product placement in the film, but I am sure there was some.
Based on home video sales for Man of Steel and BvS, it will probably do healthy business there as well.
