Boba Fett spinoff film may have major ret-con

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thecouncil said:
Why is the Boba Fett of the prequels so hated?

This is a character that didn't do anything across six movies except die comically. So, for some reason, this absolutely nothing character from the OT was given a backstory in the PT. And instead of working with that, the better idea is to wipe it away? Really, why? I don't actually get why it matters. Doesn't even need to be a Boba Fett movie at that point. It's just another Mandolorian. ...B-b-but this is the one that said, "Put him in the cargo hold"!
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Well, his space ship was really awesome to me for many years. One of the coolest ships in the SW universe I thought.
 
Stabby McSter said:
Why was Boba Fett so loved pre-prequels? Semi-serious question. D:
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The armor. The jetpack. The Slave I ship. The strong silent type. He was a total mystery so your imagination could run wild about his back story. It seemed like Darth Vader had some sorta respect/connection with him which instantly boosted his credibility as a badass.
 
Man, I forgot about this:

In Tales of the Bounty Hunters, Fett is portrayed by Daniel Keys Moran as an idealist who strives to maintain the social order and enforce the law without giving consideration to the morality of specific laws. For this reason he hopes to see the Rebel Alliance defeated, as their goal of overthrowing the establishment is in direct opposition to his goal of keeping it in place. During an argument with Leia, he declares that the Galactic Civil War started by the rebellion is morally wrong, describing it as "An uprising against the authority legally over them, and threatening the system of social justice which permits civilization to exist," and with outrage that Solo is "a mercenary who has never done a decent thing in his life," and that "he deserves punishment because he illegally smuggled spice." When Leia points out that Fett's employer, Jabba, has many more criminal deeds to his name than Han does, Fett rationalizes it by saying "Necessity makes allies. Once the Rebellion is over, I expect the Empire will deal with Jabba. But he is less a threat than the Rebels," before putting an end to the conversation.
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I wouldn't mind seeing Fett as someone with some kind of strict moral code, even if it is twisted. Kinda Rorschach-ish.
 
Loxley said:
I think that's actually a pretty cool idea in general, whether or not it's purpose is solely to retcon something from the prequels. Hopefully they go with it.
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Another purpose is so that they can cast who they want for his voice (and face if it is seen), instead of re-hiring the guy who played Jango Fett.
 
I have to agree this sounds pretty good. I don't think anybody realized how much the cult popularity of this character would become. "Fixing" the story makes sense.

Although I know some continuity whores who are going to cry about this. They'll argue till they're blue that any change cannot be an improvement. They need to be slapped.
 
I don't see the point of this. Or how Boba being a clone matters at all considering what would make his character is whatever happens between when he was a kid to when he's an adult with the armor. Does this mean no more Australian(?) sounding Boba?
 
Parch said:
I have to agree this sounds pretty good. I don't think anybody realized how much the cult popularity of this character would become. "Fixing" the story makes sense.

Although I know some continuity whores who are going to cry about this. They'll argue till they're blue that any change cannot be an improvement. They need to be slapped.
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"Fixing" it of what though?
 
I like this idea. It has a lot of good story possibilities built right into the premise -- someone new to being a bounty hunter is more relatable to the audience than a grizzled veteran, and you don't have to get bogged down in the whole history of the character.

If the new Star Wars movies have any hope of being good, they're going to have to strike out and be their own thing, rather than just an endless parade of references to things you liked in better movies. (This was a problem in the prequels.)

All anyone ever liked about Boba Fett was his armor and ship and the fact that he's a bounty hunter anyway.
 
Count Dookkake said:
Very funny idea, but unless it happens in 1-9, it's just glorified fan-fiction.
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Well, to be honest, 7-9 is kinda glorified fan fiction.

nullref said:
I like this idea. It has a lot of good story possibilities built right into the premise -- someone new to being a bounty hunter is more relatable to the audience than a grizzled veteran, and you don't have to get bogged down in the whole history of the character.

If the new Star Wars movies have any hope of being good, they're going to have to strike out and be their own thing, rather than just an endless parade of references to things you liked in better movies. (This was a problem in the prequels.)

All anyone ever liked about Boba Fett was his armor and ship and the fact that he's a bounty hunter anyway.
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but the "whole history" of this character is that he was a clone of a man. thats one sentence. youd be more bogged down with understanding the history of a new character because we know 0 sentences about that guy. :)
 
I already don't accept anything that happened in the prequels so I don't really need something like this to 'correct' them.

I don't see why they don't just go with a different bounty hunter altogether. If it's not really going to be Boba Fett why use him at all.
 
WanderingWind said:
I think it's more of the kid thing than the clone thing. But put them together and you have a shit sammich.
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I still don't get how him being a clone or seen as a kid makes any difference. We knew Boba had to be a kid at some point in his life, right? The scene in the prequel when he sees Jango be killed by a Jedi and picks up the helmet says a lot about what set him on the course to become a bounty hunter, particularly in a post-Jedi galaxy where the could hunt them down for fun and profit, after gaining considerable skills of course. We know his motivations, the story that is interesting is how he got those skills and then put them to good use.

Hating on Boba Fett for being a clone or a kid is just silly really. I just don't understand how it changes him or diminishes him in any way.
 
Crewnh said:
I don't understand the fascination with Boba. He doesn't fucking do anything in any of the movies.
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The first time I read about Boba Fett on the Internets I was like who the hell is this dude?! I seriously couldn't remember his presence in the (original trilogy) movies at all. I started thinking maybe I don't remember him because Lucas removed him from the versions I've watched or something but no, it's just that he does nothing of interest to remember him.
 
thecouncil said:
"Fixing" it of what though?
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Fixing might be the wrong term, although there's a lot from the 2nd trilogy that fans want fixed. Improvement might be the better word. All subjective of course, but it seems like a lot of people feel like this would be an improvement.

The books have taken Star Wars to much more than just the movies and I think there should be a little flexibility when it comes to story. Make it good, and not handcuffed to movie continuity.
 
inm8num2 said:
The prequels established that OT Boba Fett was a clone of Jango.

This rumor, if true, makes it so that OT Boba is not the Jango clone, but rather someone else who killed him.

Therefore, retcon.
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If this takes place between the events of the prequels and ESB, it's not a retcon.

EDIT: If you use the voice as proof that he is a clone in ESB and forward, then I suppose it is.
 
Stabby McSter said:
Why was Boba Fett so loved pre-prequels? Semi-serious question. D:
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Because he was in the original trilogy, and that's enough for Star Wars purists to think something is awesome: It's on the original trilogy? Then it's great. It's on the prequel trilogy?Then it sucks and must be retconned out of existence.

Just because.

Boba Fett was absolute ass of a character in the original trilogy. He got killed like a bitch, and fans were so obsessed with him that he "miraculously" survived in the expanded universe, which is bullcrap.

In fact, if you ask most if not all of Star Wars' purists about what makes Boba so great in the original trilogy, you only get vague, dumb answers like "He had a jet pack", "he looked cool", "he was mysterious", "he had a cool ship", "his toys were great" and stuff like that. You know, basically nothing related to the character development itself.

Then in the prequel trilogy it is stated that he is a clone, which adds nothing or takes anything away from the original character, but suddenly "IT SUCKS". Why? Because this guy of which we knew absolutely nothing about and died like a bitch, is revealed as a clone. So what? Being a clone or not doesn't change the fact that the guy died like a bitch and was a boring character to begin with.
 
RileyLewis said:
This is stolen from GAF from last year, I'll see if I can find the thread. I 100% think this is fake, and somehow the good idea spread around the internet and now Latino Review is reporting it as true (as they tend to do with these things).

EDIT - FOUND IT!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=81701945&postcount=52

Proof there that this idea originated on GAF. I didn't come up with it myself though, I saw someone else post it here before, and then I was reiterating what a cool idea it was. So if Disney does this:

1) Good for them
2) GAF needs royalty payments!
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Yeah, I mentioned before that I think I heard this on a podcast. Maybe it was SModcast... or it could have just been a Star Wars podcast.
 
Ishida said:
Because he was in the original trilogy, and that's enough for Star Wars purists to think something is awesome: It's on the original trilogy? Then it's great. It's on the prequel trilogy?Then it sucks and must be retconned out of existence.

Just because.

Boba Fett was absolute ass of a character in the original trilogy. He got killed like a bitch, and fans were so obsessed with him that he "miraculously" survived in the expanded universe, which is bullcrap.

In fact, if you ask most if not all of Star Wars' purists about what makes Boba so great in the original trilogy, you only get vague, dumb answers like "He had a jet pack", "he looked cool", "he was mysterious", "he had a cool ship", "his toys were great" and stuff like that. You know, basically nothing related to the character development itself.

Then in the prequel trilogy it is stated that he is a clone, which adds nothing or takes anything away from the original character, but suddenly "IT SUCKS". Why? Because this guy of which we knew absolutely nothing about and died like a bitch, is revealed as a clone. So what? Being a clone or not doesn't change the fact that the guy died like a bitch and was a boring character to begin with.
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haha it's ridiculous that you are that worked up about it. Did your parents refuse to buy you a Boba Fett action figure or something?
 
Whatever, ya'll. Boba Fett is the dude that Vader chided for "no disintegrations" and who had the balls to tell Vader not to torture Solo to death.

This is in addition to looking like a galactic fucking baller and having WOOKIE SCALPS hanging from his shoulder. Dude was and is a boss, RotJ never happened.
 
Crewnh said:
Vader has cooler armor, a cool voice and actually does stuff. Who cares about this chump.
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Vader has stupid armor. The overall form and silhouette are good, but his chest "pad" has aged so, so miserably. Those buttons. It's a joke to look at nowadays. Which armor you like more is a matter of taste, but Boba's has aged much better and doesn't have such a ridiculously glaring flaw
 
ghst said:
they should bring back his unique appeal by having him spending the origin movie systematically hunting down and killing the other remaining clones of jango. some highlander shit.
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After each clone is killed, there's a close up of Boba's face, with a single tear running down his cheek, as he says, "Sorry, dad."
 
Ishida said:
Then in the prequel trilogy it is stated that he is a clone, which adds nothing or takes anything away from the original character, but suddenly "IT SUCKS". Why? Because this guy of which we knew absolutely nothing about and died like a bitch, is revealed as a clone. So what? Being a clone or not doesn't change the fact that the guy died like a bitch and was a boring character to begin with.
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Well to his hardcore fans, it took away his uniqueness as he was now just some goon off an assembly line and all their backstory fanfiction was erased.

I agree with you though. His character basically just comes down to a cool design and in the end he dies like a buffoon.
 
Maybe they should pull a St. Elsewhere and have the prequels be a fever dream Han is experiencing while frozen in carbonite.


But yeah, I like this idea for Boba Fett.
 
Crewnh said:
I don't understand the fascination with Boba. He doesn't fucking do anything in any of the movies.
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He's pretty cool in the EU though.

And I don't mind Boba Clone Fett. I mean what's the big deal? He's not a mindless clone like the others.
 
Nokagi said:
haha it's ridiculous that you are that worked up about it. Did your parents refuse to buy you a Boba Fett action figure or something?
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Not really, unlike you I was never a fan of such boring character ;)

inm8num2 said:
Sounds like he/she wasn't alive during the OT, or possibly experienced the PT first.
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Sorry to disappoint you, but no. I watched the original trilogy first and became a fan of it. I'm just not a blind purist.
 
1. i'm ok with this.

2.I don't think it's a retcon unless they're going back and explaining that whatever happened in the prequels is bullshit. What I'm seeing is that the suit takeover happens after the fact.

3. Oh, I guess it could be a retcon if the change takes place between the prequels and IV/V/VI. Whatever.

4. My take on his appeal is the same as Dredd's. It's the fucking suit and that you don't really know anything about him. Give him some one-liners and let me fill in the details.

5. In fact, I wouldn't even mind an entire show dedicated to the character. Maybe it IS the suit? Maybe Boba Fett is immortalized because the suit goes to whoever kills him last. That would explain while all the clones were such bad shots -- they cloned the wrong one. : )
 
Seems like a good way to restore some dignity and interest to one of the many characters cheapened by the prequel trilogy.
 
Ishida said:
In fact, if you ask most if not all of Star Wars' purists about what makes Boba so great in the original trilogy, you only get vague, dumb answers like "He had a jet pack", "he looked cool", "he was mysterious", "he had a cool ship", "his toys were great" and stuff like that. You know, basically nothing related to the character development itself.
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He had two speaking scenes in the OT. One where he reluctantly accedes to not disintegrate the target and one where he successfully negotiates with Darth Vader (see Lando as to how that usually goes). The character was nothing but badass.
 
TCRS said:
And I don't mind Boba Clone Fett. I mean what's the big deal? He's not a mindless clone like the others.
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My point exactly. I still don't understand why him being a clone makes one bit of a difference. He is probably the only clone to actually receive direct training from Jango, and he had a completely different upbringing and set of circumstances from the clones.

He is only like the clones in genetic material only, which is suppose to be a good thing. Otherwise, he's completely his own individual.
 
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