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[Redneckerz]

There is no common sense here, DLSS is magic and solves everything....

It can only do so much.

 

[Buggy Loop]

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He's talking purely resolution.

How is this even in the same ballpark? Do you have eyes?

There is no common sense here, fucking laughable coming from you after those comments.

 

[Bojji]

PS4 and PS4 pro though as the image shows are not even in the same realm of settings while Switch 2 is almost match for Series S.

And then

Oops

It can stay 30 fps on PS4 consoles because they cut off the loading of assets so fucking drastically. And then there's Phantom Liberty which requires SSD

If PS4 had SSD it would fix that. We are talking about GPU/CPU power here not I/O:

Switch 2 version doesn't really use current gen settings (same as HL) - it's a mix.

Series S has AT LEAST 2x more CPU power.

That explains 30fps B4.

 

[MisterXDTV]

It can only do so much.

I know, they don't....

 

[Buggy Loop]

Also



Switch 2 completely wipes the floor of PS4 and series S in textures, matches PS5.

If PS4 had SSD it would fix that. We are talking about GPU/CPU power here not I/O:

Are you following the chain of comments Boji ?

 

[Kataploom]

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That... proves my point...

 

[Holammer]

If PS4 had SSD it would fix that. We are talking about GPU/CPU power here not I/O:

Switch 2 version doesn't really use current gen settings (same as HL) - it's a mix.

Series S has AT LEAST 2x more CPU power.

That explains 30fps B4.

Digital Foundry did some testing with SSD vs the stock 5400RPM HD. You don't get the full effect, but I think it would be enough to fix the streaming issues.
Eight year old video, maybe system updates since have improved it?

 

[LiquidMetal14]

The Switch 2 folks

 

[Buggy Loop]

Digital Foundry did some testing with SSD vs the stock 5400RPM HD. You don't get the full effect, but I think it would be enough to fix the streaming issues.
Eight year old video, maybe system updates since have improved it?

But if it started streaming more assets the FPS would go back to launch period or even worse. You guys don't recall the streaming cutbacks after launch?

It never came back even in subsequent patches, including the missing crosswalk textures and all that, you can still see that in the Switch 2 vs series S vs PS4 vs PS5 DF review.

It doesn't have to be car chases, even gun fights, what's loading here? No longer a streaming issue

PS4 Pro was kneecapped to the same FPS as base PS4 in all previous DF videos of the cyberpunk analysis series, same alleyways, same issues. Slapping an SSD doesn't solve this.

 

[Bojji]

PS4 Pro was kneecapped to the same FPS as base PS4 in all previous DF videos of the cyberpunk analysis series, same alleyways, same issues. Slapping an SSD doesn't solve this.

It's the CPU, Jaguar is weaker than S2 CPU.

 

[Buggy Loop]

It's the CPU, Jaguar is weaker than S2 CPU.

I know

Why don't you reply to this guy then

So far we're at the "well it needs an SSD"... and now "well it has to change the CPU". Textures matching PS5? "Well it needs more VRAM". So basically an entirely new console

 

[Bojji]

I know

Why don't you reply to this guy then

I replied to someone else with my first post in this thread, it wasn't connected to discussion between you and that guy.

 

[Kataploom]

It's the CPU, Jaguar is weaker than S2 CPU.

Not to mention that for data decompression last gen consoles would waste CPU resources, making it even more difficult for them to get on par with Switch 2 running any current gen game, even if magically an SSD would allow them to run those games, while Switch 2 is designed around fast data transfer just like all other three current gen consoles

 

[Bojji]

Not to mention that for data decompression last gen consoles would waste CPU resources, making it even more difficult for them to get on par with Switch 2 running any current gen game, even if magically an SSD would allow them to run those games, while Switch 2 is designed around fast data transfer just like all other three current gen consoles

Yeah, PS4 wasn't designed with SSD in mind (games as well).

Switch has better CPU, more memory and more modern I/O than last gen consoles. At the same time core GPU while more modern has raw power that I mentioned before, between PS4 and PS4 Pro.

S2 can render handsome looking games when devs are smart but people shouldn't expect 60fps current gen titles on it...

 

[Kataploom]

Yeah, PS4 wasn't designed with SSD in mind (games as well).

Switch has better CPU, more memory and more modern I/O than last gen consoles. At the same time core GPU while more modern has raw power that I mentioned before, between PS4 and PS4 Pro.

S2 can render handsome looking games when devs are smart but people shouldn't expect 60fps current gen titles on it...

Of course, but in exchange we can expect graphics to not get compromised within it's Switch 2 bounds imo

 

[Mozza]

You're correct that it is very early days for the console. But SW2 is not the enigma it once was amid all the speculation. We now know plenty about the hardware on offer, enough to know that factually Series X and SW2 are worlds apart and shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as a point of comparison. It only serves to makes you and the poor SW2 look bad. It frankly doesn't matter what level of power the console appears to have according "to me" or to you, it doesn't change reality.

It will run worse than literally every version and lacks split screen, yet costs the same $70. I'm a Borderlands fan but I've never paid full price for a BL game. I paid $15 for BL3 when I got my PS5 and had a great time with it. SW2-only owners looking for new (i.e. not a port of an old game) games are more likely to shell out the $70 and it's not a stretch to say they are getting ripped off, especially considering how much content is being cut from the base game to be sold as DLC. If you still want to play it on SW2, do you, but it'll be much cheaper and will eventually include more content for
your money if you wait.

My question is..... Why would anyone who is not planning to buy this game on the Switch 2 even care about people being ripped off. As the people you are talking about won't even be aware of any of this. Or the fact it's being discussed on niche internet sites in the first place?.... They will simply buy the game and play it.

The Switch 2 was never going to be a PS5 or Series X. The console is tiny and draws very little power. I think it's pretty awesome for what it is. And is objectively a massive upgrade from the original. The games I want ie Nintendo's own games are going to look and run just fine.

I do agree with waiting for this. I bought the Switch 2 for Nintendo games pure and simple. I will buy this at some point like Cyberpunk when I can get a cheaper copy with more content. And possibly a performance patch. I feel the third party developers should try to push their latest games on the Switch 2, but would also like them to make some more exclusive content that is designed for the individual hardware.

 

[BlueManifest]

I think the steam deck should be able to run this

1. Switch 2 can play this in handheld mode at 30 fps

2. Steam deck is equal to slightly stronger than switch 2 in handheld mode and has access to frame gen

 

[tkscz]

CVG got to play it and said it ran at a stable 30fps. There was a single stutter but other than that they didn't have an issue

 

[BlueManifest]

CVG got to play it and said it ran at a stable 30fps. There was a single stutter but other than that they didn't have an issue

Handheld too? Or they only played docked

 

[CuteFaceJay]

They at least gonna unlock the older games to run at 60 on the new system?

 

[tkscz]

Handheld too? Or they only played docked

Docked