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I don't see the issue here.
What, did you want them to target 60fps and make the game even uglier and have it run even worse?
If it can barely run at 30 with 4 enemies on screen.. imagine them targeting 60.
Its a weak machine, 30fps should be the standard.
You framerate warriors need to slow down and think sometimes lol
What, did you want them to target 60fps and make the game even uglier and have it run even worse?
If it can barely run at 30 with 4 enemies on screen.. imagine them targeting 60.
Its a weak machine, 30fps should be the standard.
You framerate warriors need to slow down and think sometimes lol
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jm89
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Sounds like PS4 is the natural point of comparisonOk we have:
LordOcidax : Switch 2 Handheld = Base PS4+ , Switch 2 docked PS4 Pro+
kevboard : Switch 2 Handheld = Sub Base PS4, Switch 2 docked Between Base PS4 and PS4 Pro.
@Mr Moose: Switch 2 Handheld = Base PS4, Switch 2 docked Between PS4 Pro and Series S.
PC handhelds get every third party game day 1. Nintendo consoles haven't been a practical option for third party games since practically forever, and it doesn't seem like switch 2 will change that.
At the end of the day Nintendo consoles are designed for the games Nintendo wants to make, not for the wider industry. And in turn people buy their consoles specifically to play the games made by Nintendo. You can see this in all the software charts, especially in Japan, with very few third party games selling comparably. There isn't going to be much overlap between the audiences for Mario kart and borderlands. This affects how much resources third parties dedicate to switch 2 development.
LordOcidax
Member
In handheld mode, obvious.Sounds like PS4 is the natural point of comparison
Mozza
Member
Yes that must be it.
MisterXDTV
Member
Sounds like PS4 is the natural point of comparison
If we move the bar to 2016 PS4 Pro, Switch 2 is already dead
So yeah Nintendo lovers should stick with Base PS4 from 2013 and tell the world how amazing it is to have better than PS4 games on the go....
Too bad most people play it docked anyway
LOL
Woopah
Member
There's not much overlap between those audiences, but doesn't matter too much when the difference in userbase is so big. They'll be more people playing third party games on Switch than there are on any PC handheld.
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Romulus
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That's fine. I just can't go back. 60fps really feels like bare bones to me at this point but definitely manageable.
keefged4
Member
Is anyone really surprised? Honestly?
Couldn't care less about Borderlands 4, but IF I did, a Nintendo console in 2025 would be the last choice to purchase it on, as is with every other third party release.
My Switch 2 is for first party games only, and that's fine. I'd wager a lot of those with Switch 2 are in the same camp.
Couldn't care less about Borderlands 4, but IF I did, a Nintendo console in 2025 would be the last choice to purchase it on, as is with every other third party release.
My Switch 2 is for first party games only, and that's fine. I'd wager a lot of those with Switch 2 are in the same camp.
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Kataploom
Gold Member
It was always stated it's in same ballpark GPU wise, with even some advantages due to Nvidia hardware and better memory configuration, and that remained true, where's the missing clue?
Baemono
Member
Well, in the goalpost update
As in the classic « people who were expecting PS5 Pro level performance are delusional » despite no one expecting that. And when you make such claim, you can highlight yourself as the conoisseur, based on nothing
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LordOcidax
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Looks like we were expecting a PS5 on the go according to some people here… An others moved the goalpost from is not going to be as powerful as a PS4 to LOL is running PS5 games at 30fps.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Just trolls and retardeds/ignorants.
LordOcidax
Member
And is not going to stop.
Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
Current gen games that run at 60fps on Series/PS5 targeting 30fps on Switch 2? That was always the expectation. It's a 20 watt hybrid console lol.
The console will shine with PS4/XBO ports. This is part of the reason Nintendo are being selective about dev kits. Because they know third parties are going to go absolutely nuts with 100's of ports from last gen and they don't want high profile ports like 2077, FFVII Remake, Elden Ring and RDRII to be lost in the shuffle of the avalanch of ports in year one. You'll see 100's of PS4 gen ports to Switch 2 in '26/'27. It's going to have the best library available when you consider the Switch 1 library + Switch 2 exclusives + Virtual Console + PS4 gen + some PS5 gen ports.
The console will shine with PS4/XBO ports. This is part of the reason Nintendo are being selective about dev kits. Because they know third parties are going to go absolutely nuts with 100's of ports from last gen and they don't want high profile ports like 2077, FFVII Remake, Elden Ring and RDRII to be lost in the shuffle of the avalanch of ports in year one. You'll see 100's of PS4 gen ports to Switch 2 in '26/'27. It's going to have the best library available when you consider the Switch 1 library + Switch 2 exclusives + Virtual Console + PS4 gen + some PS5 gen ports.
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Baemono
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The Series S comparisons were made by Digital Foundry, regarding Street Fighter 6 especially, and also recently Apex Legends, which are both pretty close
Baemono
Member
I mean indeed no one should be surprised… as the devs told about it several weeks ago already
kevboard
Member
Digital Foundry was literally attacked by fanboys and YouTube grifters, like Super Retard Dave 64, for telling the public the truth, which is that the Switch 2 is closer to PS4 than Series S.
the only reason they compare to the Seires S is to compare image quality of DLSS in SF6 for example. while they also constantly reminded everyone that SF6, outside of the image quality, still uses PS4 settings and runs like the PS4 version (30fps World Tour fights, no SSR in stage backgrounds, no dynamic debris, no muscle deformation layer etc.)
neither SF6 nor Apex Legends are "close", they just have really good image quality due to DLSS. Apex Legends runs lower settings than Series S, and it lacks the 120fps mode entirely for example. it simply runs like a more stable, cleaner PS4 version of the game.
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Baemono
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You missed my point
Or you just quoted me to keep repeating what you always repeat in every Switch 2 related topic « it isn't powerful, stop enjoying the console, the controller is shit too » regardless of the topic or what people say. Everybody got your point already
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kevboard
Member
there was no point to your comment. just a bad interpretation of what DF did.
I never said the Switch 2 isn't powerful, I in fact have constantly defended it in the past.
all I do is correct nonsens people say, like that whole "it's almost as powerful as a Series S" bullshit.
but yes, the contoller is shit and not even worth half its asking price. anyone can tell you that tbh
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cireza
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A lot of people have been saying this would be like, or better, than Series S. You yourself are only talking about the GPU here. So, what do you think of how the consoles compare on the CPU side ?
Baemono
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kevboard
Member
Proof that you missed it.
so what was your point then? enlighten me.
Baemono
Member
I wrote it then I erased it as it is silly to keep arguing about this. I agree with everything you said overall, I responded to a comment I founded to be nonsense (for me comparing doesn't mean same power level)
We're all old men yelling at clouds at the end, but arguing about framerates and image quality isn't the best side of us all I believe
remember reading that Borderlands was running very well because of an off screen video of the game running at Gamescom, taken from afar, and that was the final proof ER, Cyberpunk and Madden were just the result of poor optimization, i can't remember if it was here it was just 2 days ago
Dr. Samuel Hayden
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Bitch 2
demigod
Member
UE5 stutter?
The twitter made it seem that the game hovers in the 20's FPS. It seems 30 FPS with some stutter. He should be clear. The game is still released weeks later than the other consoles in October, I'll evaluate the port I'm never gonna buy till then rather than make drama on twitter .
And the other platforms evaluated while we're at it because people's shouldn't celebrating too hard on trolling what they're seeing on switch 2
Considering..
There's stutter there on a 5090
You obviously didn't watch the video.
Baemono
Member
They thought people were caring about the graphics of the game rather than its framerate
RodriGames40
Member
It's an UE5 game presumably using all the basic features. No idea what those disappointed were expecting.