PabloBolivar
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You're discounting word of mouth. Just by talking about the fight, more people will tune in.
I'm going to it just because I heard it's the biggest fight of the century. Rins may not watch it, but Rins will talk about it.
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Boxer Floyd Mayweather called Conor McGregor a gay slur (the f one)
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You're discounting word of mouth. Just by talking about the fight, more people will tune in.
I'm going to it just because I heard it's the biggest fight of the century. Rins may not watch it, but Rins will talk about it.
excelsiorlef
Member
What?
You said the entire event is trash. People can be against homophobic slurs and still watch the event.
SparkleMotion
Member
So you subscribe to "any publicity is good publicity"?
A presser that doesn't insult specific groups of people might have made them more money.
excelsiorlef
Member
Two bigots are going to get paid 100s of millions to put on what is 99% guaranteed to not be a good fight.
It's absolutely not being on a high horse to think the event is going to be trash.
Raigan5088
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Does anyone actually believe this trash?
Take a look at WWE, this is the same shit
All staged to boost publicity and make tons more cash, they already know who will win
Take a look at WWE, this is the same shit
All staged to boost publicity and make tons more cash, they already know who will win
Why do you keep making assumptions about what I will do? My nearest involvement with this will be learning the outcome from the gaf thread created after the fight.
Floyd dropping the hard f slur isn't the genius Vegas promotional move that you think it is.
Nah this is actually entertaining
PabloBolivar
Banned
haha. Yeah, I guess I have a subscription to that mag.
It's true though. That's how Trump got elected. He was a boxing, WWE guy.
It's all about the hype.
I love 50 so much. Just clowned the dude.
The event is trash. By all means, though, watch away.
SparkleMotion
Member
I'm now convinced you have no idea what you're talking about, so I'm done.
Hmmm...we might want to examine that further.
Boxing as a sport is entertainment, but is it art? Can I enjoy it like I enjoy a great film that stars an actor who is a terrible person?
To what extent is the event about the kinds of opinions the athletes represent? To what extent is it about anything else? Who else benefits from it?
They're millionaires no matter what, but is a boxing match about pleasing fans or satisfying their egos? How many people are expecting a good boxing match?
I don't know about you, but when I watch a sporting event, I like to root for one side or the other. I don't know if I could root for Roger Federer on Sunday if I heard he was a racist.
So what is "the event" that you couldn't get from any other such event? Is Floyd Mayweather's talent as a boxer really so profound that you would root for him knowing he called someone that word?
polyh3dron
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ummmmmmMr.Shrugglesツ;243492291 said:
PabloBolivar
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It's not even close.
The fight will be a complete disappointment, 100% guaranteed.
A good fight doesn't need this kind of circus to gather attention.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Andrew Dice Clay
PabloBolivar
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Do you have a problem with it so far? I think it's pretty compelling
polyh3dron
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I bet youre pining for the good old days of Muhammad Ali, rightMr.Shrugglesツ;243494520 said:
Dick Justice
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It's like people ITT are desperately fighting to be the most outraged by two idiots saying stupid shit (though the jury's still out on how 'stupid' it is. Look at people saying 'I wanna see this guy get ktfo. Selling the fight, via underhanded means).Mr.Shrugglesツ;243492291 said:
PabloBolivar
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Lol. You'll be watching the Gaf live thread. It will be amazing.
PabloBolivar
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It's all part of the hype. Is this your first rodeo?
Mr.Shrugglesã
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You have an issue with Ali?
For me it's pretty simple. I like Conor. I think he fucked up big time with the racist remark and his past use of racist remarks, but he's my age, and I still hope (maybe in vain) that some day soon he realizes what he's been saying and apologizes. I'm not really prepared to write him off yet as a racist deep down in the fiber of his being. I think he's been caught up in fame and the fight game for the bulk of his 20's and just never took the time to become less ignorant about race. That's why he said "I can't be racist, I have black friends". Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know, I just want to give him the chance to change.
Floyd, though? Floyd beats women. He beats them and he's never apologized for it and when confronted with it says it's all bullshit allegations. He's also a supporter of Kadyrov (a brutal piece of shit dictator), a supporter of Donald Trump, and he has his own history with dumbass racist comments and homophobia. But the domestic violence stuff and never repenting for it crosses a line for me that Conor hasn't even come close to. I'm a pretty forgiving and empathetic person, but Floyd just seems utterly amoral as far as I can tell, and egocentric. His ego is what doesn't let him apologize for the DV record. While I think Conor is still young enough to change, I don't have the same faith in Floyd.
So it comes down to a lesser of two evils, I guess. That slim chance of seeing Conor knock out Floyd is too big to pass up. And either way, it'll be a fun time with some friends at the bar.
Mr.Shrugglesツ;243497469 said:
That's not always the case. Harder punches can be scored higher, but there are often cases where a boxer wins because he/she delivered far more clean yet soft punches. There are cases where a boxer who looks absolutely fucked at the end of the fight can win against his/her opponent who barely has a scratch on him/her. So, damage inflicted isn't necessarily a good indicator on who has won a boxing match unless somebody gets KO'd.
Also, people don't always want to see people beat the shite out of each other. Some people watch boxing to see great defensive skills, reflexes and some showboating.
Lol, it's just so obvious what's going on. Everyone's got a favourite in this fight and hates the other one. So they throw all this in to maximise the buys.
I'm not even sure anymore if I'll got to a bar and watch this fight. I don't really want to give these two anything even through a third party. They both fucking suck and I have little interest in watching a boring match between two arrogant bigoted idiots. I also expect the ugly rhetoric to get worse from these two as the press tour goes on.
I think he is talking about Hagler vs Hearns. I do not believe there are many boxing fans who did not enjoy that fight.
Those are some of the most exciting rounds in boxing. More happened in that short match than happens in entire fight trilogies. Electrifying does't do it justice.
polyh3dron
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Mr.Shrugglesツ;243500478 said:
Nope. Would you consider yourself a fan?
astroturfing
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yeah, and i dont understand why anyone takes either seriously.. these types of impulsive violent people should not be anyone's idols.
the fact that they're showered with ridiculous amounts of money is just gross. they dont deserve a 1/10000th of it. it's perverse.
Mr.Shrugglesã
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Ali is inspirational.
Those two being horrible extended further than just them. Yesterday I watched someone defend Mayweather's use of a homophobic slur because "it isn't used that way anymore." He was straight and would certainly know all about homophobic slurs (eyeroll).
And Conor just exhibits the same diet racism (just racism btw) that I dealt with growing up with the whole I have Black friends argument and jokes relying on the mandingo racist trope. Unless Conor is 3 months old, he knows better than to be making comments like that.
I won't be watching the fight but I hope it goes terribly for the both of them.
And Conor just exhibits the same diet racism (just racism btw) that I dealt with growing up with the whole I have Black friends argument and jokes relying on the mandingo racist trope. Unless Conor is 3 months old, he knows better than to be making comments like that.
I won't be watching the fight but I hope it goes terribly for the both of them.
PabloBolivar
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bingo. But even knowing that, I'm all in.
Conor McGregor kicks a litter of puppies on the next leg of the press tour. Mayweather retaliates by throwing a sack of kittens into a lake.
Agreed. It is arguably the greatest boxing match in my lifetime. On a slightly different class, nowhere as talented, Gatti vs Ward got the same type of buzz because the public loves brawlers. They like blood and grit.
King Tubby
Member
I don't see how this changes anything. It's not like we didn't know Mayweather was an asshole before this.
polyh3dron
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Mr.Shrugglesツ;243501012 said:
Muhammad Ali said:
https://youtu.be/zQ37lyT6u8Y?t=1m27s
He called Joe Frazier an Uncle Tom repeatedly, and a gorilla. He said some really really nasty things.
But he's an inspiration, and Mayweather & McGregor deserve to literally die. Got it.
This is stupid.
The Albatross
Member
It's all a work.
Controversy creates cash for these guys.
Controversy creates cash for these guys.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Yall are tripping If you think Floyd saying faggot is gonna affect ppv buys.
"call and get a refund"?? This is gonna be the biggest fight ever. Ill happily pay for this.
They don't need to be good people to entertain me
"call and get a refund"?? This is gonna be the biggest fight ever. Ill happily pay for this.
They don't need to be good people to entertain me
The Albatross
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Mr.Shrugglesツ;243497469 said:
It's fine if you've never watched boxing or know nothing about it, you don't have to comment and try to be an expert.
Saying people watch boxing to see people beat the shit out of each other is false. That is the underlying reality of boxing but not what makes it popular. It's like saying NFL fans watch the NFL for bone crunching hits. Yes, that is the underlying constant threat in the sport, but most people (today) don't watch it to glorify the big hits, they watch it for the competitive games, strategy, and athleticism.
For me, I like boxing over MMA because I don't like how violent mma is. I'm sure if I watched MMA more I'd get an appreciation for it, but as a casual observer I hate it, makes me uncomfortable to watch a guy get pinned on the ground and then get his head bashed in with elbows till he passes out.
Most big fights these days, especially Mayweather fights, are about points, not knockouts or beating the wits out of your opponent. Mayweather, as he says, is 49-0, and probably the highest paid fighter in history (right?) so he's obviously doing something right. Though I personally think he'll crush McGregor, because McGregor isn't a boxer.
Boxing does demonstrably worse shit to fighters brains than MMA does. For all its brutality, MMA is actually safer.