Do people think I meant that Floyd was
literally going to leave Ortiz in a coma? Jesus fucking christ. I meant that he was going to win the fight easily, and that it would be a significantly worst beating anything that could have happened tonight. I guess it was a bad figure of speech considering the sport, but god damn.
TheNatural said:
Based on what? He was hitting him all fight and not having any effect until the two free shots. And two clean shots to an unprotected guy and the guy was up 5 minutes later smiling about it. Maybe he could do that if he pulls a Margarito and some plaster of paris, Mayweather is not a KO artist though.
Floyd is actually a pretty slow starter. He doesn't lose early rounds, but he usually uses them to feel out his opponent, loosen them up a bit, than later he starts landing right leads. Tonight, we saw that he was landing lead rights, actually a bit earlier than usual. Yes Ortiz was pressuring, that's how he fights, but unless he was willing to change tactics later, or, he had some extraordinary amount of endurance that we've yet to see from him, it is safe to assume that he was already on the downward slope to a lopsided loss. Assuming that Floyd isn't over the hill, there really wasn't much in the way of victory for him tonight. For me, this fight looked like it was going to play out similar to most of Mayweather's fights of these last few years. De La Hoya being an anomaly, although this fight was at 154 and imo Floyd looked pretty uncomfortable at that weight.
Sure, you can say "Ortiz was going to land that ONE PUNCH for the KO", but if that's the argument than you could say that about damn near anyone and there isn't any point in discussing boxers as tacticians. Anyone can be caught but I don't think Floyd was going to get KO'ed by a hay maker, I don't think he was going to switch his tactics and let his guard down to satisfy the crowd, and I for damn sure don't think Ortiz is capable of keeping up with him for more than 6 or 7 rounds.
Ortiz getting up later and smiling doesn't mean anything at all, nothing. Most fighters eventually walk it off. Only in unique circumstances are men down for more than a minute or so. Are you saying that there is an argument for Ortiz because Floyds shots didn't leave him on the mat for 10 minutes? There are so many factors to a KO, his guard was down but that doesn't mean that he was going to automatically get RJJ'ed.
He's an extremely intelligent fighter, and those types of fighters tend to be more efficient in rematches than they are in the first fights. Floyds only rematched Castillo from what I know, and as was pointed out above, Floyd looked significantly better. (Although, he is said to have had a broken hand in the first fight so it's difficult to glean much from it.)
Let's not forget, a rematch probably wouldn't be 16 months after tonight. Floyd was out for over a year, he steps in and starts landing his best punch?
Ultimately, I just feel that a rematch would not be in Ortiz best interest (At least from a health perspective). Mayne he's a smarter fighter than we thought, or maybe his corner work saw a real weakness that they plan to exploit. But based on the evidence that we have, I feel that Floyd may
disrupt the space-time continuum if they rematch!