Brazilian government notifies Nintendo over abusive, anti-consumer practices in new EULA that allows bricking of consoles

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At least his tuxedo sister and white brother sleep around it...
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Piracy Consumption Rates are Highest in BRICS Countries


  • Brazil: According to the Institute for Information Law, 45 percent of those using the Internet consumed recorded music through an illegal channel in 2017.
  • Russia: 91 percent of Russians would rather pirate than pay for content, according to security firm ESET. 75 percent have resorted to piracy to save money.
  • India: According to the Institute for Information Law, 69 percent of those using the Internet consumed recorded music through an illegal channel in 2017.
  • China: While China is notorious for movie and music piracy, the country also has disproportionately high levels of software piracy.

I wonder why they are worried about this? 🤔
 
I worked with a guy from Brazil. He said people openly carried guns and murdered each other in the streets after soccer matches.
For the same reason a friend of mine who lived in the US said the police officers are undercover KKK members.
 
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there is one case where I definitely support remote bricking: online games cheating. In practice, there's the obvious problem of certainty and not wanting to misfire on someone whose software was legitimately glitching etc, but if you know for certain someone was using hacks to cheat in online Mario Kart or whatever, in principle I absolutely support instant brick.
 
there is one case where I definitely support remote bricking: online games cheating. In practice, there's the obvious problem of certainty and not wanting to misfire on someone whose software was legitimately glitching etc, but if you know for certain someone was using hacks to cheat in online Mario Kart or whatever, in principle I absolutely support instant brick.
u ban the person from your online service, no company should have the power to "brick" a product that someone paid for, you is the kind of person that ll defend such practices and if one day it happens to you, you ll go running complaining and crying about on twitter or whatever social media you use it on how unfair it is that his happened to you, grow up ffs.
 
u ban the person from your online service, no company should have the power to "brick" a product that someone paid for, you is the kind of person that ll defend such practices and if one day it happens to you, you ll go running complaining and crying about on twitter or whatever social media you use it on how unfair it is that his happened to you, grow up ffs.
for the record, as I said in the quote, I support this one case "in principle" but not necessarily "in practice."


But it's worth recognizing that cheating in online games is nothing like other cases. It's not some private thing of "I'm doing something on my own with the hardware I own" -- instead, it's a matter of hacking a public shared space. If you try to win online games by hacking, you're aggressively using the hardware against others, and yes if someone (the company, or even another player for all I care) decides to hack you back and brick your console, that's absolutely fair game and 100% deserved
 
Brazil is a lawless communist shithole, ruled by an illiterate illegitimate squid president. They think they are above the law, but surprised at all.
 
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i ll never understand the amount of brazilians thats support Venezuela regime, its juts pure mass "retardation"

Which Brazilians? Again, another one that don't have the faintest ideia of what's talking about.
The vast majority of the Brazilian population (even among the left/not radical left) absolutely despise the Venezuelan regime. There was a mass migratory crisis in northern Brazil thanks to Venezuela.
People tends to forget that the current government was elected by a split of hair, and since the election its popularity is in free fall. Government policy =/= public opinion.

And try not to get into politics here or derail the topic, especially ones that you don't know about.

If Nintendo is not officially established there, The Brazil government can't do nothing and is almost guaranteed that Nintendo is not going to respond…

Nintendo has an official presence in Brazil. It was out of the country from 2015 to 2020.

But it's worth recognizing that cheating in online games is nothing like other cases. It's not some private thing of "I'm doing something on my own with the hardware I own" -- instead, it's a matter of hacking a public shared space. If you try to win online games by hacking, you're aggressively using the hardware against others, and yes if someone (the company, or even another player for all I care) decides to hack you back and brick your console, that's absolutely fair game and 100% deserved

Exactly. It already happened (something close to this) during the X360 era, Microsoft has a presence in the country and it didn't become a fuss.

Since the best part of my post was deleted, I'll replicate here again, minus the inflammatory jab.

Nintendo is being inquired by a State DA's office (for the lack of a better definition) basically for two things that are against Brazilian laws. (both things were not at the OPs source)

1 Its illegal in the Brazilian law to change unilaterally your EULA/TOS in a way that changes the balance in a consumption relation after the consumer agreed with a previous version of the EULA. Especially the way it was done, with a "auto agree email"

2 It is illegal in Brazil to make a contract that restricts the right of a consumer to file a law suit against a company in any form, type or class. So the no "arbitration clause" is null and illegal in Brazil.
I find very curious this part, especially when we are talking about a company the flex it legal arm left, right and center.
A company that sued the supermarket of a guy named Mario in Guatemala because of Super Mario,
A company that DMCA Archive.org because a user scanned and posted a 96's SM64 guide,
A company that Copyrighted 4000 times a 10+ years old YT channel of game soundtracks,
A Company that DMCA two rom repositories of 20+ years old games. (and the list goes on)

Both are fair points of discussion and adjustment.

What i think it will happen is, new Users will go for the new EULA (minus the arbitration clause), old users will go by the old EULA for sometime.

If they want to throw away their biggest market in Latin America, a gaming market bigger than Italy, bigger than Mexico, almost the size of Canada and France just because of this...
Good luck for them
 
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Which Brazilians? Again, another one that don't have the faintest ideia of what's talking about.
The vast majority of the Brazilian population (even among the left/not radical left) absolutely despise the Venezuelan regime. There was a mass migratory crisis in northern Brazil thanks to Venezuela.
People tends to forget that the current government was elected by a split of hair, and since the election its popularity is in free fall. Government policy =/= public opinion.


O video é antigo de 2013, mas vc pode encontrar essa antro de idiotas em qualquer faculdade federal do pais, eu moro em Campinas, e não falta esse tipo de gente na Unicamp, mas sei la né, as x vc mora em um lugar que não da pra ver esse tipo de coisa, vai saber e eu nunca generalizei, eu disse que tem uma quantidade grande desses idotas que realmente apoiam o regime Venezuelano.


And try not to get into politics here or derail the topic, especially ones that you don't know about.
Was never my intend to do it, its was just off topic conversation.

If you are from US you are not going to understand… Trust me.
i m Brazillian and i didnt XD
 
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Which Brazilians? Again, another one that don't have the faintest ideia of what's talking about.
The vast majority of the Brazilian population (even among the left/not radical left) absolutely despise the Venezuelan regime. There was a mass migratory crisis in northern Brazil thanks to Venezuela.
People tends to forget that the current government was elected by a split of hair, and since the election its popularity is in free fall. Government policy =/= public opinion.

And try not to get into politics here or derail the topic, especially ones that you don't know about.



Nintendo has an official presence in Brazil. It was out of the country from 2015 to 2020.

Since the best part of my post was deleted, I'll replicate here again, minus the inflammatory jab.

Nintendo is being inquired by a State DA's office (for the lack of a better definition) basically for two things that are against Brazilian laws. (both things were not at the OPs source)

1 Its illegal in the Brazilian law to change unilaterally your EULA/TOS in a way that changes the balance in a consumption relation after the consumer agreed with a previous version of the EULA. Especially the way it was done, with a "auto agree email"

2 It is illegal in Brazil to make a contract that restricts the right of a consumer to file a law suit against a company in any form, type or class. So the no "arbitration clause" is null and illegal in Brazil.
I find very curious this part, especially when we are talking about a company the flex it legal arm left, right and center.
A company that sued the supermarket of a guy named Mario in Guatemala because of Super Mario,
A company that DMCA Archive.org because a user scanned and posted a 96's SM64 guide,
A company that Copyrighted 4000 times a 10+ years old YT channel of game soundtracks,
A Company that DMCA two rom repositories of 20+ years old games. (and the list goes on)

Both are fair points of discussion and adjustment.

What i think it will happen is, new Users will go for the new EULA (minus the arbitration clause), old users will go by the old EULA for sometime.

If they want to throw away their biggest market in Latin America, a gaming market bigger than Italy, bigger than Mexico, almost the size of Canada and France just because of this...
Good luck for them
So… Nintendo doesn't have official presence at this moment… The government can't do nothing, unless they try prevents people from importing the console or ban the console over there. And that's doesn't sound right…
 


O video é antigo de 2013, mas vc pode encontrar essa antro de idiotas em qualquer faculdade federal do pais, eu moro em Campinas, e não falta esse tipo de gente na Unicamp, mas sei la né, as x vc mora em um lugar que não da pra ver esse tipo de coisa, vai saber e eu nunca generalizei, eu disse que tem uma quantidade grande desses idotas que realmente opiam o regime Venezuelano.


i m Brazillian and i didnt XD


A large quantity, which isn't even that large beside some dumb loud ones heres and theres (trust me I'm going for a second post grad already), =/= than enough to call it a "mass" something.
Again the vast majority of the population (the normal everyday guy) absolutely despise the Venezuelan government.

So… Nintendo doesn't have official presence at this moment… The government can't do nothing, unless they try prevents people from importing the console or ban the console over there. And that's doesn't sound right…

2015 to 2020 out of the country... In the country since 2020 until yesterday the last time i checked :)
 
A large quantity, which isn't even that large beside some dumb loud ones heres and theres (trust me I'm going for a second post grad already), =/= than enough to call it a "mass" something.
Again the vast majority of the population (the normal everyday guy) absolutely despise the Venezuelan government.



2015 to 2020 out of the country... In the country since 2020 until yesterday the last time i checked :)
Missread… Oh ok.
 
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One thing that people from other countries don't understand is that Brazil is very bureaucratic in basically every respect beyond crime. At least I don't think other countries have PROCON, CONAR and etc., as powerful as they are here; and even then, consumers still get screwed more often than not. It's a very complex mess that might seem alien to other cultures.

For example, it's a very common complaint that Brazil is a terrible place to build companies and prosper due to taxes and bureaucracy, however, we got "chocolate" companies selling "not chocolate" as chocolate. Crazy stuff.

So yeah, it doesn't surprise me that Nintendo is being notified, and yet I doubt anything will happen out of it.
 
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Yes.
He is a big boy now.
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Simply Gorgeous, long live to him ! 💖 😻💖

I've lost my beloved orange fluffy cat a few years ago from a sudden hearth disease and not even old: one day in perfect health, gone the next day, I never recovered and will never... I miss my big orange fluffy baby so much, still remembering the time he was so small I could handle him in one hand, he loved to sleep in my computer mATX empty case 😿

- I'd like to play the PS5, would you please move ?

- ....

- Please

- ....

- Alright, i'll come back later.
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there is one case where I definitely support remote bricking: online games cheating. In practice, there's the obvious problem of certainty and not wanting to misfire on someone whose software was legitimately glitching etc, but if you know for certain someone was using hacks to cheat in online Mario Kart or whatever, in principle I absolutely support instant brick.
If is proven as cheat, yes

Mario Kart Wii was a hellhole of cheaters, but 8 wasn't. A game with more than 50 million sales doesn't have cheaters? Probably have, but they're the exception, so I guess we're fine
 
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