Mithos
Member
Or MS, Sony, Nintendo should be BANNED from require online to startup/setup a console.
Nintendo Is Being Sued Over Bricking Switch 2 Consoles (In Brazil)
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Sakura
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Well, you don't need online to setup a Switch 2 for the first time, (https://www.nintendo.com/au/support/articles/nintendo-switch-2-first-time-setup-and-connection/) unless you are wanting to do a system transfer. I have no idea on a factory reset as I haven't done one before.
Exactly, continue playing your physical games on it. On wait is pretty much everything a "key" card that needs to download the game?
FU you don't get to play it. Sounds pretty bricked to me.
Doctor Hades
Member
Personally, I think that flagging up a warning first, followed by a three or six month ban for a repeat offence after that is far more preferable to outright bricking the console.
One thing that does concern me is the possibility that might happen due to a bug or glitch, say, a legitimate purchased cart being misdetected by Nintendo's servers and bricking the console in the process. I've heard that apparently once it happens then it cannot be reversed.
Another example here might be someone who buys a second hand Switch 2 game on cart in a box that looks exactly like the real thing but is actually a fake. I could feasily see this happening with the third-party game key cards. If that resulted in a person's Switch 2 getting bricked then would it really be their fault? How could they possibly know the game was a fake unless they tried in their Switch 2 first...?
Now I do not mod my consoles or handhelds and have no interest in using something like MIG or whatever it is called. I purchase my Switch games new on cart from Amazon because I can afford them. On that basis, my Switch 2 should be 100% safe., but, who knows if that really is the case. Time will tell, I guess.
One thing that does concern me is the possibility that might happen due to a bug or glitch, say, a legitimate purchased cart being misdetected by Nintendo's servers and bricking the console in the process. I've heard that apparently once it happens then it cannot be reversed.
Another example here might be someone who buys a second hand Switch 2 game on cart in a box that looks exactly like the real thing but is actually a fake. I could feasily see this happening with the third-party game key cards. If that resulted in a person's Switch 2 getting bricked then would it really be their fault? How could they possibly know the game was a fake unless they tried in their Switch 2 first...?
Now I do not mod my consoles or handhelds and have no interest in using something like MIG or whatever it is called. I purchase my Switch games new on cart from Amazon because I can afford them. On that basis, my Switch 2 should be 100% safe., but, who knows if that really is the case. Time will tell, I guess.
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Bojji
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dragonyeuw
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Yes as far as we know this hasn't been a thing yet, but I made the point of saying the 'idea' that they can is what makes me uneasy, and it could be from a completely innocent act on your part. Whether it be software or hardware, it gives me pause to purchase anything used Switch-related. Which benefits Nintendo obviously, because they'd rather you buy new from them.
justiceiro
Marlboro: Other M
Lmao, love how the game key card thing is the one that broke that camel back. Nintendo pushed all the limits of how greed they can be this gen. It's time to learn how much Brazilian government love to fuck with people in there.
Impotaku
Member
The amount of misinformation, heresay, and plain made up shit around switch 2 is wild and still keeps popping up. In reality some cheap fucks in Brazil tried pirating switch games and got detected and banned from using online. boo fucking hoo
I heard if you stand in front of a mirror and whisper mig flash cart 3 times a Nintendo ninja will appear behind you and brick your switch and then murder your dog.
I heard if you stand in front of a mirror and whisper mig flash cart 3 times a Nintendo ninja will appear behind you and brick your switch and then murder your dog.
Hugare
Member
Imagine buying an used console without testing it first. And GameStop would never sell a bricked console.
That said, companies being able to brick their devices is some despicable shit. No banning system is flawless, so imagine having your device bricked over nothing.
Being able to make your device worse in any way is already pretty bad (*cof cof* Apple)
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
They can sue Nintendo just based on their ToS saying they are allowed to brink your console.
Kilau
Gold Member
True, people don't use "bricking" properly. Though it is effectively useless if there is no account on the system before its banned, you can never set it up to be used even offline with physical games.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
No Switch 2 has been bricked... They're talking about online bans.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
You sure about that??
Walter Matthau
Member
The market for the Mig are people who want to pirate games. Switch carts weigh .12 ounces, are barely larger than postage stamps, and take less than 10 seconds to swap in and out of the console.
Even if we try to humor the people who claim they're using it for innocent reasons like trying to prevent somehow losing their original carts, it's use of unauthorized software which none of the console makers would willingly allow.
Kilau
Gold Member
Which part? From what I read from a user that had their system banned, they removed the account from it and now the system can't be used because an account can't be created without online access.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
The account part. If you can't create a "local" account then the console is indeed a brick if you factor reset it.
Kilau
Gold Member
Effectively but I don't think technically. The issue isn't internal, Nintendo could (in theory) remove the system from the ban list and it would work with no fix needed on the actual hardware.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Usage of MiG can absolutely be for personal backups. Especially when traveling having an option to use your own backups is a good one.
The market for the Mig are people who want to pirate games. Switch carts weigh .12 ounces, are barely larger than postage stamps, and take less than 10 seconds to swap in and out of the console.
Even if we try to humor the people who claim they're using it for innocent reasons like trying to prevent somehow losing their original carts, it's use of unauthorized software which none of the console makers would willingly allow.
Banning consoles because someone is doing backups is BS. Hell, banning consoles is BS period, they should ban users instead.
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
I'm against piracy but the ability to brick a console is a load of turd. It shouldn't be permitted anywhere. Denial of access to services I'm fine with but bricking is way over the line.
Baemono
Member
No one is bricking consoles
Minsc
Gold Member
A bricked console is no different than a broken one, if it's within the year of warranty or whatever is set by the country, it should be replaced for free.
And furthermore, intentionally breaking someone's product should be met with extreme prejudice. No different than destruction of property/vandalism IMO.
And furthermore, intentionally breaking someone's product should be met with extreme prejudice. No different than destruction of property/vandalism IMO.
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L*][*N*K
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Which is concerning and it shouldn't be allowed
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
Not yet but they clearly think they should have the ability to do so.