Tyrone Slothrop
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"Breaking Bad" - Season 2 - Sundays on AMC
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No, not at all.Buckethead said:So McDonalds dude is an agent?
Spectral Glider
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OK, now that was kind of lame. Episode was great until the end.
CajoleJuice
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That's two foreshadowing cop-outs. :\
duderon said:The body bags still aren't explained, unless they are pieces of the pilots.
They're either crew or passengers from the planes.
CajoleJuice said:That's two foreshadowing cop-outs. :\
What was the second?
Tyrone Slothrop
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so i guess the body bags are from plane passengers? edit: beaten
well i guess that's a somewhat clever fake-out... i thought skylar and walt jr. were going to get whacked
well i guess that's a somewhat clever fake-out... i thought skylar and walt jr. were going to get whacked
Buckethead
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Fordzilla said:No, not at all.
I missed that part! What happened?
CajoleJuice
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Tuco's grill. I feel like everyone thought something was going to happen to Hank.B.K. said:They're either crew or passengers from the planes.
What was the second?
Tyrone Slothrop
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BigAT said:Wait, was there something in the beginning of the episode that impliedI see that some people were talking about it early on but I didn't notice anything that pointed to this conclusion.it was a plane crash?
there were those two pillars of smoke in the background.
Buckethead said:I missed that part! What happened?
He was sponsoring a run as the owner of Pollo Loco.
BigAT said:Wait, was there something in the beginning of the episode that impliedI see that some people were talking about it early on but I didn't notice anything that pointed to this conclusion.it was a plane crash?
One of the vans they put evidence into had NTSB written on the top of it and there were two plumes of smoke in the distance.
B.K. said:One of the vans they put evidence into had NTSB written on the top of it and there were two plumes of smoke in the distance.
I guess knowing what the NTSB is would have helped. I saw the smoke obviously but figured they could be explosions from almost anything.
Tyrone Slothrop
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it's funny because everybody thought walt and jane's dad running into each other at the bar was a ridiculous coincidence :lol
i guess i'm kind of relieved though. seeing any of the current characters die would've been kinda rough. unless it was hank and his bitch wife
i guess i'm kind of relieved though. seeing any of the current characters die would've been kinda rough. unless it was hank and his bitch wife
I was kind of hoping for Skylar, personally.Tyrone Slothrop said:i guess i'm kind of relieved though. seeing any of the current characters die would've been kinda rough. unless it was hank and his bitch wife
Bad news all around for Walt.
Some advice--- Walt has to stop pumping money into his son's website.
- Mr. Pollo now knows that Walt is not in good health and has a brother-in-law that's a DEA agent. The business relationship is probably done next season.
- Jesse's mental state is a huge question mark. What can turn him around?
- Skylar found out about every small lie Walt made this season.
Some advice--- Walt has to stop pumping money into his son's website.
Tyrone Slothrop
Banned
amen
Woah.
Interview with Vince Gilligan... http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2009/05/breaking-bad-vince-gilligan-post.html
If you put together all of the show titles that had the bear flashbacks it reads: "Seven-Thirty Seven Down Over ABQ".
Interview with Vince Gilligan... http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2009/05/breaking-bad-vince-gilligan-post.html
If you put together all of the show titles that had the bear flashbacks it reads: "Seven-Thirty Seven Down Over ABQ".
Justin85 said:Woah.
Interview with Vince Gilligan... http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2009/05/breaking-bad-vince-gilligan-post.html
If you put together all of the show titles that had the bear flashbacks it reads: "Seven-Thirty Seven Down Over ABQ".
Definitely some Lost-esque shit right there :lol
Jason's Ultimatum
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These random occurrences connected to the characters are starting to piss me off.
P.S. The cleaner . Nice Pulp Fiction moment.
P.S. The cleaner . Nice Pulp Fiction moment.
Tyrone Slothrop
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Fatalah said:Was it me was the bald businessman next to Mr. Pollo the same guy that helped Walt with Jane/find Jesse?
that's what i thought. i tried to get a closer look during the encore presentation but couldn't make it out
Tyrone Slothrop said:that's what i thought. i tried to get a closer look during the encore presentation but couldn't make it out
I was laughing because I really thought it was the same guy. I kind hope it is. :lol
Cornballer
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Didn't see that coming at all. Not sure how I feel about the finale - definitely some powerhouse scenes in there, but beyond that I need to think about it more.
Great interview - well worth a read by everyone. Lots of questions answered.Justin85 said:Interview with Vince Gilligan... http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2009/05/breaking-bad-vince-gilligan-post.html
Cornballer
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A few more links:
- Alan Sepinwall's episode recap/review
- Sepinwall's interview with Vince Gilligan is something of a must read (posted by Justin85 above)
- TV Squad Revew
- Vince Gilligan answers fan questions
- Alan Sepinwall's episode recap/review
- Sepinwall's interview with Vince Gilligan is something of a must read (posted by Justin85 above)
- TV Squad Revew
- Vince Gilligan answers fan questions
Jack and Kate will be in the sleeping bags. This is just a hint of the lost series finale. JJ Abrams mind fucking us all across entire shows and stations.
Not sure what to think of this episode, doesnt really feel like a finale. It does set the show up for a crazy third(final?) season but still i was expecting more. Season two started out insane but ended slow... kinda like it was played backwards.
Not sure what to think of this episode, doesnt really feel like a finale. It does set the show up for a crazy third(final?) season but still i was expecting more. Season two started out insane but ended slow... kinda like it was played backwards.
Jason's Ultimatum said:These random occurrences connected to the characters are starting to piss me off.
P.S. The cleaner . Nice Pulp Fiction moment.
I agree.
I enjoyed the character interactions, but some of the major plot elements are starting to wear.
explosion bad *I can understand the symbolism of the event, but it compromises the rest of the story too much. imo
skylar pretty good
Jesse/Walt excellent
Overall it was a solid episode, although perhaps not worthy of being a season finale. I think most of my disappointment is due to the fact that I've set the bar for this show so ridiculously high because it has surpassed my expectations so many times before.
I think the plane crash would be better received were it not for the fact that they've been building up to it the entire season. I would be looking at it in an entirely different light if they had not done all of the teases to start episodes. Especially when they showed the body bags, I felt like they were saying, "Hey, we're taking out two characters, prepare to get blown away" and to not deliver on that feels kind of hollow.
I think last week's episode would have served as a better season finale or if they just ended tonight's episode with Skylar walking out on him.
I think the plane crash would be better received were it not for the fact that they've been building up to it the entire season. I would be looking at it in an entirely different light if they had not done all of the teases to start episodes. Especially when they showed the body bags, I felt like they were saying, "Hey, we're taking out two characters, prepare to get blown away" and to not deliver on that feels kind of hollow.
I think last week's episode would have served as a better season finale or if they just ended tonight's episode with Skylar walking out on him.
Gilligan has a good point, although I think the finale was a little contrived. The point that is hammered home, again and again, that the characters' actions all have consequences. Walt has been punished in his family life, psychologically, and finally, as Gilligan put it, he's being punished cosmically.
I'm looking forward to seeing how the writers keep the show spiraling downward in Season 3. Walt is about to get into some seriously depressing shit.
I'm looking forward to seeing how the writers keep the show spiraling downward in Season 3. Walt is about to get into some seriously depressing shit.
Tyrone Slothrop
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that was cool visually though. fire raining from the sky. apocalyptic
KolosLazar16
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How the fuck can people think this was a copout? It makes Walt's druglordage even more fucked up. He just killed 300+ people.
Tyrone Slothrop
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too coincidental
Tyrone Slothrop said:too coincidental
I agree with the location of the crash, but the crash in itself was a result of Walt's actions.
chaoticprout said:How the fuck can people think this was a copout? It makes Walt's druglordage even more fucked up. He just killed 300+ people.
IMO
That point was better served when Walt went to get Jesse. That scene was crushing.
That was a lame cop-out. I wonder if they changed the ending because the show got renewed... they must have because there was no reason to foreshadow that all season.
Same here, she's annoying. I was hoping for Skylar and her boss. I was also really hoping Hank, Jesse, and Walt Jr. were not among the dead.
WTF Hank is one of the best characters on the show... the worst thing about the last few shows was the absence of Hank.
:lol
Okay, that's kind of cool, yet it also sucks because that means they planned for that to be the finale all along, and built it up way too much, knowing they would disappoint everyone.
seat said:I was kind of hoping for Skylar, personally.
Same here, she's annoying. I was hoping for Skylar and her boss. I was also really hoping Hank, Jesse, and Walt Jr. were not among the dead.
Tyrone Slothrop said:i guess i'm kind of relieved though. seeing any of the current characters die would've been kinda rough. unless it was hank and his bitch wife
WTF Hank is one of the best characters on the show... the worst thing about the last few shows was the absence of Hank.
Justin85 said:If you put together all of the show titles that had the bear flashbacks it reads: "Seven-Thirty Seven Down Over ABQ".
:lol
Okay, that's kind of cool, yet it also sucks because that means they planned for that to be the finale all along, and built it up way too much, knowing they would disappoint everyone.
BigAT said:I guess knowing what the NTSB is would have helped. I saw the smoke obviously but figured they could be explosions from almost anything.
That's what the Intertubes are for.
chaoticprout said:How the fuck can people think this was a copout? It makes Walt's druglordage even more fucked up. He just killed 300+ people.
The buildup was disingenuous, as explained here:
BigAT said:I think the plane crash would be better received were it not for the fact that they've been building up to it the entire season. I would be looking at it in an entirely different light if they had not done all of the teases to start episodes. Especially when they showed the body bags, I felt like they were saying, "Hey, we're taking out two characters, prepare to get blown away" and to not deliver on that feels kind of hollow.
I think last week's episode would have served as a better season finale or if they just ended tonight's episode with Skylar walking out on him.
Well this was a pretty boring standard finale, apart from that fuckawesome ending that is. So, how long are we going to be waiting for S3?
That lying ass, I just know he's lying.:lolIs it a safe assumption that the bodies in those bags on the driveway are just random airplane passengers?
Yes.
Suburban Cowboy
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Ya, that plane crash was super lame. It's hard to feel anything but betrayed as a loyal viewer. It's just so tacky to build suspense and intrigue for so long like that just to turn into something completely inconsequential. This show hasnt pissed me off like this since the Jessie's brother reveal.
You think Walt's biggest problem is financial? An overly cautious drug lord now knows someone who knows his face and occupation is related to the man hunting him down. I can't imagine he will just hope Walt doesn't talkFatalah said:Bad news all around for Walt.
Mr. Pollo now knows that Walt is not in good health and has a brother-in-law that's a DEA agent. The business relationship is probably done next season.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
saying that plane crash was inconsequential is so ridiculous. it's a perfect metaphor for what walt has done, and it sums the season up perfectly. and do you guys need a bigger event than skylar seeing through the list of his lies and leaving? anything else than that is secondary, this is the reason i watch the show.
i was definitely underwhelmed by that ending along with most of you guys. but the thing that really gets me is the hype that this finale received from the fucking press. was this the best finale ever? NO. was this even the best episode of BB? far from it.
a wife leaving her husband is not a huge shock, especially in this case. who couldnt see that coming? ive said it before, but i have some kind of weird hatred for women on TV. they are always written like such bitches.
a wife leaving her husband is not a huge shock, especially in this case. who couldnt see that coming? ive said it before, but i have some kind of weird hatred for women on TV. they are always written like such bitches.
BobFromPikeCreek
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I don't know what to say. :/
mattiewheels said:saying that plane crash was inconsequential is so ridiculous.
Is anyone really saying it was "inconsequential", is that really the criticism?
Personally I would have no problem with any of it if they had never shown the bodybags before tonight's episode. Really, just change that one thing and I wouldn't feel at all manipulated.
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