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Holy fuck, I think I missed this episode. Brb getting to it.

THANKS!

 

[dave is ok]

Is this guy an older version of the drug lord from the flashback?

Not the boss, but one of the sub-bosses from the meet. He was in S3 a few times. Met with Gus with the cousins and Tio, killed Tortuga in a flashback, etc.

 

[kehs]

Source?

the scene he played

 

[HeadlessRoland]

If you're a gay guy who's open enough to sit with your lover at a drug dealing meeting but tough enough to slit someone's throat with a box cutter, yeah that's a pretty fresh character.

Omar wants a word with you. The scene was certainly played in a way with the implication there was a little bit more of a connection beyond friendship. But then again the outpouring of emotion could have been exaggerated to contrast with how emotionless Gus is now.

And I would say the scene shows his bond with Gale and not Jesse.

 

[Nemo]

Omar wants a word with you.

Oh, indeed.

 

[bathala]

wow great episode.

the parking lot scene was intense especially with Mike coming along.

I wonder who is Gus wat makes him important. Chile Cartel man maybe

 

[Deleted member 30609]

Here

oh, wow.

 

[bathala]

Is this guy an older version of the drug lord from the flashback?

that's Juan Bolsa according to IMDB
Drug lord is Don Eladio

 

[Cornballer]

Just finished up - that was great.

Thanks to everyone for posting the usual links. A few more items from today:

- Poniewozik's review
- AMC Q&A - Dean Norris (Hank Schrader)

Q: One of my favorite scenes of Season 4 [from Season 4 Episode 7, "Problem Dog"] is when Hank convinces an incredulous ASAC Merkert and Gomez that Gus may indeed be connected to the elusive blue meth by showing him fingerprints from Gale's apartment.

A: Yeah that was a lot of fun actually. A little inside story on that: it's a four page monologue, all information and exposition. When I saw it I was like, I should have renegotiated my deal for Season 4, made 'em pay for it! I worked on the scene with my wife to get the words down, and I rehearsed it from beginning to end, word for word, eight times or more. And I nailed it! We had a whole afternoon planned to shoot it, and we were done literally three hours early. So I said, alright, since we're done and I clocked you guys three hours, we're all going out. I got the show to give me a driver, and I went to a local bar with Michael Shamus [who plays Merkert]. The crew came out, and Mr. Merkert and I proceeded to do a number of shots and beers and had a good night. And we finished at the time we would have been done.

 

[triplestation]

Here

Was that actually DEA? Or Gus' men disguised as DEA? I don't even.. I need that whole thing explained if anybody would.

 

[dave is ok]

Was that actually DEA? Or Gus' men disguised as DEA? I don't even.. I need that whole thing explained if anybody would.

I think it was actually the drug police, either American or Mexican or both. After a DEA agent got shot they needed to crack down - Gus probably sent them after Hank knowing it would end up making Bolsa's life hell or getting him killed by Federales.

 

[AlimNassor]

Was that actually DEA? Or Gus' men disguised as DEA? I don't even.. I need that whole thing explained if anybody would.

i wasn't DEA, it was Mexican Federal Police.

 

[HeadlessRoland]

Is that manni from scarface?

 

[tokkun]

Just finished up - that was great.

Thanks to everyone for posting the usual links. A few more items from today:

- Poniewozik's review
- AMC Q&A - Dean Norris (Hank Schrader)

Dean Norris sounds pretty similar to Hank.

 

[Nemo]

Is that manni from scarface?

Damn, so that's who he was! He got a little fat but it sure did look like him yeah

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Cool Story, Hank.

 

[Alex Connolly]

wtf gus is gay now? cmon people wtf, where do you guys get this shit. I don't think ive seen ONE hint of GUS being gay.

Probably the most pointless conjecture I've seen on GAF. And this is GAF.

In that flashback, I thought the Hector pissing in the pool moment and subsequent comment was more a reflection of just how nervous and soft Gus and his fellow chemist are, highlighted especially in the company of hardened druglords. Gus dressed as he was seemed like an overcompensation to appear as businessman-like as possible - as he has always tried to remain as professional as possible. This is their big break to start working for the cartel.

Friend gets his brain coleslaw'd.

Initial anger over both the loss of a friend, but also the key man to an industrial meth production line. I never saw any "gay" in the pre and post-murder. I saw nervousness, overcompensation, anxiety, anger, horror...but not what a lot of people are reading into it.

Thereafter, we see an always-incredibly low-key, collected Gus, who seems to have only one tempered outlet - going and seeing Hector, which he takes delight in doing.

I really don't see, even in the remotest possibility, how they would or could weave the sexuality of a drug giant into the show with it sticking out like dog's bollocks. The closest we've come to any sort of homosexual subtext or inference has been with Gale, and it simply isn't important.

I suppose there's no harm in the discourse, but...really?!

EDIT: But hell, another fucking awesome episode. Great to get backstory and it really looks like Hank will be one hellish spanner in the Cartel/Fring face-off.

 

[Exclamation-One]

I really don't see, even in the remotest possibility, how they would or could weave the sexuality of a drug giant into the show with it sticking out like dog's bollocks. The closest we've come to any sort of homosexual subtext or inference has been with Gale, and it simply isn't important.

Listen to the podcast. That said, you're right that it isn't that important in the grand scheme of things. The only thing it really serves to unscore Gus's mission and his drive. 'Blood for blood.'

 

[AiTM]

Wow man. Thats how you do a fucking episode. Best of the season.

 

[BertramCooper]

I don't think there's a mole. At least, I hope there isn't.

I'd rather not see this show resort to 24-style hijinks.

 

[Alex Connolly]

Listen to the podcast. That said, you're right that it isn't that important in the grand scheme of things. The only thing it really serves to unscore Gus's mission and his drive. 'Blood for blood.'

Yeah, I should listen. If my post was a little presumptuous or heavy-handed, I apologise, but it might be due to just how much I enjoy the reserved power Gus proffers onscreen. Not that sexuality preference cannot be commanding or complimentary, but I just think it's an avenue completely unnecessary to the flow and characterisation of Breaking Bad.

 

[Seraphinianus]

Now we know what Gus "sees" in Jesse.

sees himself in bed with him AM. I. Right?

I don't think there's a mole. At least, I hope there isn't.

I'd rather not see this show resort to 24-style hijinks.

we all know who the mole would be:

Spoiler

Skylar, that bitch!

 

[HeadlessRoland]

Of course there is a mole, I doubt its a character on screen.

 

[ConradCervantes]

Of course there is a mole, I doubt its a character on screen.

It's relatively unimportant within the framework of the show to be honest. Mike was a cop. Ex-cops still have cop buddies who relay info from time to time. No real big mystery here.

we all know who the mole would be:

Spoiler

Skylar, that bitch!

Spoiler

She fucked Mike. And she gets her info from the Hank's APD buddy she's fucking.

 

[Seraphinianus]

i haven't seen anything to suggest a mole. unless the agents are going over Hank's head for some reason? Could be lame...there's enough tension with the current characters, they don't need another plot point like that. The less law enforcement involvement on the show, the better, in my opinion. I like the focus on the production and distribution end of things, including not knowing they're being traced.

 

[VPhys]

Just caught up with yesterdays episode from my DVDr.




THAT LAST FUCKING 1/2 HOUR....


THAT, my friends, is one of the greatest 1/2 hours of television ever made.

 

[YoungHav]

lmao @ people freaking out about the mere possibility of Gus being gay. Insecure much?

 

[beelzebozo]

lmao @ people freaking out about the mere possibility of Gus being gay. Insecure much?

i think they're reacting with some level of disbelief at the idea that if gus has a close friend and an emotional reaction when that close friend is gunned down there must be gay subtext.

do you see how that could seem ridiculous?

 

[kehs]

i think they're reacting with some level of disbelief at the idea that if gus has a close friend and an emotional reaction when that close friend is gunned down there must be gay subtext.

do you see how that could seem ridiculous?

well, there was gay subtext, if blahblah...blah's post is to be believed regarding the podcast.

 

[Deleted member 30609]

I got major gay vibes, but then that was probably me projecting. Plus, there's the whole language barrier thing that makes the tone of everything said a little bit harder to interpret.

I don't think it's absurd to think that was the case, and it certainly sounds like the creatives behind the show like the interpretation, so I wouldn't be surprised to see it ran with later on.

It seems like they're going to start turing Gus into a sympathetic character so the moment when Walt and Jessie have to do him in has more impact.

 

[Drewsky]

The whole Gus being gay thing is not totally out of the realm of possibility. I mean his reaction was extremely emotional, but I imagine that was just to show a different side of Gus, and to show how he became the way he is at the current time in the show. Him being more than just a partner in crime never occurred to me while watching the scene, but I can see where people are coming from when they say it.

All I'm saying is the gay thing is a reasonable theory that has been blown way out of proportion, it without a doubt has no bearing on where the show is going.

 

[Cornballer]

- Matt Zoller Seitz review of this week's episode

 

[kehs]

The whole Gus being gay thing is not totally out of the realm of possibility. I mean his reaction was extremely emotional, but I imagine that was just to show a different side of Gus, and to show how he became the way he is at the current time in the show. Him being more than just a partner in crime never occurred to me while watching the scene, but I can see where people are coming from when they say it.

All I'm saying is the gay thing is a reasonable theory that has been blown way out of proportion, it without a doubt has no bearing on where the show is going.

You mean no meth powered gay orgies with all the main players?

shame

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

i think they're reacting with some level of disbelief at the idea that if gus has a close friend and an emotional reaction when that close friend is gunned down there must be gay subtext.

do you see how that could seem ridiculous?

exactly. Can't have close guy friends anymore without being considered gay or what. I just thought it was a weird thought for some people to have. For some people it's a normal thought, for me it's just an odd one. Not the gayness, but just assuming that over the idea that they may just be bros.

 

[kehs]

exactly. Can't have close guy friends anymore without being considered gay or what. I just thought it was a weird thought for some people to have. For some people it's a normal thought, for me it's just an odd one. Not the gayness, but just assuming that over the idea that they may just be bros.

You're mind must have been elsewhere (I think we all know where....) but they pointed out they're obviously not brothers in the scene. (white meat/dark meat joke)

 

[beelzebozo]

proverbial bros.

 

[Air]

When watching the show, I didn't get a gay vibe from Gus. They're relationship made sense because they had that brotherly (re: Bromance) bond. During meetings, I'm like that a lot with my friends. That said it really doesn't matter if he is or not, one of the best characters in any show ever was gay (its Omar, yo), but I don't see it.

I have a feeling the ending of this season is going to be crazy.

EDIT: I think the only thing that would insinuate the two were partners were the use of "partner" as they talked to the bosses.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

You're mind must have been elsewhere (I think we all know where....) but they pointed out they're obviously not brothers in the scene. (white meat/dark meat joke)

you really need to step up your slang game bro

 

[kehs]

I don't know I just feel the reactions that were played out were different that a reaction from a platonic relationship.

Everything from their nervousness, to the way buddy told Gus to relax and he did, to they way they played the scene with what seemed to be Gus's world being taken from him and not just a friend.

you really need to step up your slang game bro

We're not related.

 

[Washed_Out]

Just watched the latest episode. Definitely my favorite episode this season by far. Cool to get some back story on Gus.

Dat Headshot. Surprised there's no gif yet.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

I'd be nervous if I was talking to the Don too. Sounded like they didn't want to get eachother killed so when one person said something the other would chime in and say something good about them and so on.

 

[beelzebozo]

i felt that gus and his partner were secretly a disguised race of space jellyfish, and that soon they would need to return to water, hence the sense of intimacy and urgency between them. this is what makes their proximity to the pool all the more ironic. their species can't survive in freshwater. the urine changed the pH to make it slightly more hospitable, but not quite enough. not quite enough.

 

[BlueTsunami]

Interestingly it brings up the odd conundrum regarding strong feelings towards a bro being regarded as partly or totally homosexual. I mean, here we are, damned if you do damned if you don't. Huggin' it out doesn't mean we gonna tug it out.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

Best episode of the season, for me. Great stuff all around. And I also got the impression of Gus being gay. There was more to it than them just being really close friends. I don't know why the notion upsets so many people in here.

 

[YoungHav]

my gaydar was not at 0 during that scene.

 

[BertramCooper]

Wait a sec.

People are only just now realizing that Gus is gay? Seriously?

On the scale of stereotypical homosexual occupations, meth kingpin falls somewhere between interior decorator and professional figure skater.

I mean, Gus might as well be wearing a t-shirt that says, "I take it up the pooper." It's so obvious.

 

[kehs]

Wait a sec.

People are only just now realizing that Gus is gay? Seriously?

On the scale of stereotypical homosexual occupations, meth kingpin falls somewhere between interior decorator and professional figure skater.

I mean, Gus might as well be wearing a t-shirt that says, "I take it up the pooper." It's so obvious.

I was typing up a post saying how I never thought he might be gay, until that scene.

haha

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

i felt that gus and his partner were secretly a disguised race of space jellyfish, and that soon they would need to return to water, hence the sense of intimacy and urgency between them. this is what makes their proximity to the pool all the more ironic. their species can't survive in freshwater. the urine changed the pH to make it slightly more hospitable, but not quite enough. not quite enough.

Is that why Gus was gonna charge Manny, because he could sense that he had the most urine in him? Because it really seemed like he was gonna splice open his bladder and pour it into the pool, thus creating the appropriate pH level for space jellyfish regeneration necessary to save his brother.

 

[beelzebozo]

Is that why Gus was gonna charge Manny, because he could sense that he had the most urine in him? Because it really seemed like he was gonna splice open his bladder and pour it into the pool, thus creating the appropriate pH level for space jellyfish regeneration necessary to save his brother.

that may be, but i'll personally wait for next week's podcast to confirm this.

 

[brianjones]

just because he's ripped, very clean cut, OCD perfectionist doesnt mean hes gay

way to stereotype