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Breaking Bad - Season 4 - Sundays on AMC

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During these 24 hour entertainment news cycles, where they are scratching for such minor stories to report, when I see something like this:

http://www.deadline.com/2011/07/tv-bits-giancarlo-esposito-to-join-abc-series-howie-mandel-to-produce-reality-format-ben-silveran-to-publish-comic/

Giancarlo Esposito has joined the new ABC drama series Once Upon a Time in a major recurring role.

It almost feels like an indirect spoiler (which it very well might not be of course).
 

LM4sure

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Drazgul said:
Watching it again and you just gotta love Mike's delivery when he finds out about Gale:



So good. :D


That and Mike's reaction when Gus cut Victor's throat was great! Mike was just as surprised as Jesse and Walt.
 

dave is ok

aztek is ok
HIGH DEF JEFF said:
It almost feels like an indirect spoiler (which it very well might not be of course).
That show starts filming in July. Breaking Bad films from January to May/June, means nothing
 
Just got done watching. All I can say if holy shit. Gus does not fuck around. Skylar being a bitch from the get go. Moving Walt's car, breaking into his house. And I don't even hate her but damn, the hell is she doing. As for the product placement, I could careless, doesn't distract me in the slightest.
 
_dementia said:
He had his gun drawn and everything

Yup. Totally insane.

-htownplaya- said:
Just got done watching. All I can say if holy shit. Gus does not fuck around. Skylar being a bitch from the get go. Moving Walt's car, breaking into his house. And I don't even hate her but damn, the hell is she doing. As for the product placement, I could careless, doesn't distract me in the slightest.

Ha ha Jesus Christ. She was looking for him and covering for him. Yeah, what a "bitch". The attitudes towards Skylar are absolutely flabbergasting.
 

LM4sure

Banned
-htownplaya- said:
Just got done watching. All I can say if holy shit. Gus does not fuck around. Skylar being a bitch from the get go. Moving Walt's car, breaking into his house. And I don't even hate her but damn, the hell is she doing. As for the product placement, I could careless, doesn't distract me in the slightest.

I didn’t think she was being a bitch. She moved the car because she didn’t want Walt Jr to think he spent the night and Walt and her are getting back together. And she was worried about Walt, that’s why she broke into his apartment. Although I guess after that she just went back home and hope he would show up.
 

kehs

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-htownplaya- said:
Just got done watching. All I can say if holy shit. Gus does not fuck around. Skylar being a bitch from the get go. Moving Walt's car, breaking into his house. And I don't even hate her but damn, the hell is she doing. As for the product placement, I could careless, doesn't distract me in the slightest.

What the hell, how is she being a bitch?

She moved his car so Flynn doesn't get false hopes, like marie did.

She broke into his house because she was trying to figure out why he's gone(i.e. she's worried).

The unfounded Skylar hate is full flown for episode 1.

edit: beaten like htownplaya's post.
 

harSon

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brianjones said:
are you serious

he disappeared

she was concerned about him

She did act ridiculously for someone who had been unaccounted for for much less than 24 hours, especially when that somebody is your ex-husband who had a track record for long bouts of unexplained disappearances when they were happily married.
 

smokeymicpot

Beat EviLore at pool.
I really understand the Skylar is a bitch for season 1 and 2 but not last half of 3. She is becoming a pretty cool character she is actually thinking about her family. So stop calling her a bitch when she is not acting like one.
 

kehs

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harSon said:
She did act ridiculously for someone who had been unaccounted for for much less than 24 hours, especially when that somebody is your ex-husband who had a track record for long bouts of unexplained disappearances when they were happily married.

Maybe he just carpooled, to a meth lab.
 
harSon said:
She did act ridiculously for someone who had been unaccounted for for much less than 24 hours, especially when that somebody is your ex-husband who had a track record for long bouts of unexplained disappearances when they were happily married.
That whole fake cry scene was incredibly annoying.
 

harSon

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Copernicus said:
Maybe he just carpooled, to a meth lab.

To her knowledge, he had been unaccounted for for a few hours at most. I'm just saying, breaking into his apartment when such little time has passed, for somebody who A) Is your ex-husband B) Is a grown ass man and C) Has a recent history of sporadic disappearances, is the very definition of going overboard.
 
harSon said:
She did act ridiculously for someone who had been unaccounted for for much less than 24 hours, especially when that somebody is your ex-husband who had a track record for long bouts of unexplained disappearances when they were happily married.

Who is involved in the most actively dangerous domestic trade in the country.
 

kehs

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harSon said:
To her knowledge, he had been unaccounted for for a few hours at most. I'm just saying, breaking into his apartment when such little time has passed, for somebody who A) Is your ex-husband B) Is a grown ass man and C) Has a recent history of sporadic disappearances, is the very definition of going overboard.

I think the main reason is that his car was still there, had his car not been there, then her doing all that stuff would be ridiculous.

Previous disappearance were when she didn't know the kind of things he was doing.

Now that she nows, it makes sense for her to get worried.
 

harSon

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BenjaminBirdie said:
Who is involved in the most actively dangerous domestic trade in the country.

And she's allowing the man "who is involved in the most actively dangerous domestic trade in the country" to stay in her family's life. And if she's worried that something meth related is responsible for Walt's disappearance, why would she go to his house with her baby, to what potentially could be an unsightly or dangerous scene? Either she's overreacting or she's a complete idiot. Take your choice.
 
harSon said:
And she's allowing the man "who is involved in the most actively dangerous domestic trade in the country" to stay in her family's life. And if she's worried that something meth related is responsible for Walt's disappearance, why would she go to his house with her baby, to what potentially could be an unsightly or dangerous scene? Either she's overreacting or she's a complete idiot. Take your choice.

Well, that is a fair point.
 
harSon said:
And she's allowing the man "who is involved in the most actively dangerous domestic trade in the country" to stay in her family's life. And if she's worried that something meth related is responsible for Walt's disappearance, why would she go to his house with her baby, to what potentially could be an unsightly or dangerous scene? Either she's overreacting or she's a complete idiot. Take your choice.
She's always been kind of an idiot... As good as the Breaking Bad writers are, they cannot write a good woman's role; every woman on the show is just annoying IMO.
 
DevelopmentArrested said:
She's always been kind of an idiot... As good as the Breaking Bad writers are, they cannot write a good woman's role; every woman on the show is just annoying IMO.

Gus shoulda been Gusina.

;D

I think everyone is as stupid as anyone else, regardless of gender. Jane's done dumb things as much as Walt has. Who hasn't on this show? Even fuckin' Gale dug his own stupid grave.
 
She didn't have to move his damn car like 3 blocks away. As far as her worrying for him, I don't think you're gonna find him in a sock drawer.
 
-htownplaya- said:
She didn't have to move his damn car like 3 blocks away. As far as her worrying for him, I don't think you're gonna find him in a sock drawer.

Jeepers, she didn't drive it into a damn ravine. She had to get it out of the way of Flynn's ride to school.

As far as snooping, that's aftermath to just getting in there. After that, she was probable curious and/or looking for clues.
 
Thought the episode was amazing. Sort of saw the kill coming after the scene started going on so long. But thought the scene overall was amazing. I'm sort along with the group that think's it's hard to beleive Gus would allow Gale to have the notebook outside the lab, but I can also see how he could either not know about it or just not know Gale had it out of the lab.

I think the hate for Skylar in this episode is somewhat dumb. She put his car a whopping three blocks away. Also isn't this the first time he has gone missing like this since she has learned about the meth? Plus the car being left in her driveway most likely made her worry even more.
 

kehs

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I thought it was understood that Gale and Gus have been working together for a very long time, and there's a high level of trust.
 
Copernicus said:
I thought it was understood that Gale and Gus have been working together for a very long time, and there's a high level of trust.

Sure there is a high level of trust but we're talking about a guy who wants control of pretty much every aspect. Letting a notebook of info related to the lab outside of the lab just opens up possibilities for things to happen. Why leave open the possibilities when it's not really that extreme of a rule to not allow notes out of the lab?
 
The only thing I didn't like about last night is I think it showed that Skylar is going to become even more involved in the central plot of the show.

Feels bad man.
 

dave is ok

aztek is ok
Early numbers are saying 2.6 million. Not bad. I think S3 premiered to about 2 million, the show grew a ton.

Found this S4E4 synopsis in the wild:

The Cartel gain the upper hand; Walt and Skyler share a secret with the family; Jesse's activities draw unwanted attention.
 

kehs

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Ahoi-Brause said:
Awesome episode and gus totally cold-hearted.

AND:
Her name is skyler, u guyse.

Who cares? She's just an another annoying woman on a show that should have no women.




That sound right?
 
Copernicus said:
Who cares? She's just an another annoying woman on a show that should have no women.




That sound right?
Yeah, sorta.
I rage every time she is on screen, it's actually a great acting feat to make me hate a fictional character THAT MUCH.
 

daw840

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dave is ok said:
Early numbers are saying 2.6 million. Not bad. I think S3 premiered to about 2 million, the show grew a ton.

Found this S4E4 synopsis in the wild:

The Cartel gain the upper hand; Walt and Skyler share a secret with the family; Jesse's activities draw unwanted attention.
Man...that makes me so fucking excited!!!!!! Not really all that spoilerish though. Just awesome!
 

SpeedingUptoStop

will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
Oh wow, it's that time of the thread where people boast about how insanely irrational they are when it comes to Skylar?
 

Zeliard

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Ahoi-Brause said:
Yeah, sorta.
I rage every time she is on screen, it's actually a great acting feat to make me hate a fictional character THAT MUCH.

lol

I don't think you were supposed to answer that question in the affirmative.
 

JaseMath

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xandaca said:
That was an absolutely stunning start IMO. I've found that previous Breaking Bad opening episodes have held back on presenting big themes for the season in favour of a more long game approach or short term excitement (the Tuco kidnapping, for example), but last night's seemed to set a number of fascinating ideas in motion.

Here's a full analysis I wrote. I'm quite pleased with that article, so it would be fantastic to hear whether or not you guys agree with what I said.
Nice write-up, man.
 

bud

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sure, walt has gone on to cook meth, neglect his family, miss his daughter's birth and (in)directly cause the death of several human beings. but that's nothing compared to what skyler did. first, she sang happy birthday to ted monroe-style. then, she cheated on her husband. she fucked ted. SKYLER FUCKED TED. skyler cheated on her husband with a man named TED BENEKE.
 
DevelopmentArrested said:
She's always been kind of an idiot... As good as the Breaking Bad writers are, they cannot write a good woman's role; every woman on the show is just annoying IMO.


Well honestly, I feel that way about pretty much every single movie, or TV show that I watch. I practically never emphasize with a female character, I don't want to come as misogynistic, but I really don't care, it's like they're just there, it's like in those blockbuster movies, there always has to be a love interest or whatever.

But hey I'm a guy, so I guess that in a way, it's kind of normal to root for the male characters.
 

smokeymicpot

Beat EviLore at pool.
bud said:
sure, walt has gone on to cook meth, neglect his family, miss his daughter's birth and (in)directly cause the death of several human beings. but that's nothing compared to what skyler did. first, she sang happy birthday to ted monroe-style. then, she cheated on her husband. she fucked ted. SKYLER FUCKED TED. skyler cheated on her husband with a man named TED BENEKE.

Don't forget Skyler doesn't sign the papers so she doesn't need to testify against Walt. She is such a bitch and hates her family.
 

kehs

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bud said:
sure, walt has gone on to cook meth, neglect his family, miss his daughter's birth and (in)directly cause the death of several human beings. but that's nothing compared to what skyler did. first, she sang happy birthday to ted monroe-style. then, she cheated on her husband. she fucked ted. SKYLER FUCKED TED. skyler cheated on her husband with a man named TED BENEKE.

Next thing you know, they'll have the audacity to show her in the female products aisle of a supermarket!
 

Acrylamid

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dave is ok said:
I think whatever plastic surgery/botox she had done was between Season 2 and 3. Thats when she started looking different to me.
This.
Just try to take a screenshot of her in early episodes of season 3 when she's talking. While all the other actors have expressions with wrinkles, her face looks like it's plastic.


THE-Pink-Dagger said:
Well honestly, I feel that way about pretty much every single movie, or TV show that I watch. I practically never emphasize with a female character, I don't want to come as misogynistic, but I really don't care, it's like they're just there, it's like in those blockbuster movies, there always has to be a love interest or whatever.

But hey I'm a guy, so I guess that in a way, it's kind of normal to root for the male characters.
The real problem is that the writers of most movies don't care about developing strong female characters, just take a look at the Bechdel Test:
1. It has to have at least two women in it
2. Who talk to each other
3. About something besides a man

Many movies fail this simple test!

On the other hand, how many movies fail the reverse Bechdel Test
1. It has to have at least two men in it
2. Who talk to each other
3. About something besides a woman

?
 

big ander

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Holy shit. What a fucking fantastic premiere. Season 4 didn't just hit the ground running, it's breaking land speed records.
Symbols like the box cutter and Denny's were great, but my favorite stylistic choice of the premiere had to be all the red. One of my favorite details that I always catch in Full Measures is just how red the opening to the lab is when Mike and Victor try to take Walt there to kill him. I had always thought of it as hell; Walter has finally reached the gates but he'll do anything to stay outside them for now. But having Gale and essentially, Victor, killed means he's in a new kind of hell, even lower than the dark places he's reached in past seasons.
The saddest part of the episode was seeing Jesse dragged with him. He's always been the sweeter half of the show. Sure, he was the one who began as a drug dealer, but he was a "nice guy at heart" type. His cold and uncaring assessment of the situation in the restaurant might just be the scariest thing this show has done. Walter White alone has corroded and infected this gold-hearted man and it's terribly captivating.
Jack Scofield said:
For season four, I hope the writers have more episodes that begin with a teaser (like "Crazy Handful of Nothin'" and "Grilled," for example). They were a fantastic way to start the episodes, and they occurred fairly often in the first two seasons, but seemed to stop in season three.
The in media res opening is so overdone in television, but if there's one show that does it right every time it's Breaking Bad. So I agree, I want more openings like Crazy Handful.
THE-Pink-Dagger said:
Well honestly, I feel that way about pretty much every single movie, or TV show that I watch. I practically never emphasize with a female character, I don't want to come as misogynistic, but I really don't care, it's like they're just there, it's like in those blockbuster movies, there always has to be a love interest or whatever.

But hey I'm a guy, so I guess that in a way, it's kind of normal to root for the male characters.
It's normal to sympathize with men more often, maybe, but sympathizing with exactly zero women ever in fiction is a legitimate problem in my eyes.
 
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