Breaking Bad - Season 5, Part 2 - The Final Eight Episodes - Sundays on AMC

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The only two major weak points I can think of in BB are the S2 plane crash and Tuco's cousins. Mainly because both were given a lot of build up and were ultimately anticlimactic.
Plane crash, yes. But the cousins? The last 5 minutes of "One Minute" were some of the most intense moments in the entire show and it was probably the most intense moment that didn't directly involve Walt, to me.
 
Demos approximate:

BREAKING BAD: 2.9 A1949, 5.9 million
LOW WINTER SUN: 1.1 A1849, 2.5 million
TALKING BAD, THE: 0.5 A1849, 1.2 million

No demos yet for Hell on Wheels, but its Saturday 2 hour premiere was 2.5 million, up from last season's Sunday premiere.
That's a surprise to me, as well.

Does AMC release cumulative numbers from multiple airtimes, or does it not matter as much for a basic cable channel?
 
The only two major weak points I can think of in BB are the S2 plane crash and Tuco's cousins. Mainly because both were given a lot of build up and were ultimately anticlimactic. Otherwise, nitpicking about specific lines or "slapstick" moments seems silly. Breaking Bad is unapologetic about its absurdity; it has always had a layer of dark humor from the very first episode and the very premise is arguably unrealistic. To me, stuff like that just doesn't detract from the show, because the dialogue, characterization, atmosphere, and storytelling is strong across the board.

Yeah, the plane crash was the only thing I didn't like.

Loved the brothers though
 
It's silly to compare BB to The Wire. Both are really different shows. BB is like a really brilliant thriller or an action movie, comparable to the best that have come out of the film industery.

The Wire is more hard hitting due to everything you see actually happening in real life. All the stories in the Wire have all happened in actual life.
 
child please.

breaking bad has been going for a different tone from those series from day one. it's more of a pulp comic book crime show than a character drama.
Right. There's nothing inherently wrong with that, but saying that "tread lightly" is one of the best show endings in TV history is like endlessly touting "English, Motherfucker" and all the rest from Pulp Fiction. It's silly fun and nothing else.
 
It's silly to compare BB to The Wire. Both are really different shows. BB is like a really brilliant thriller or an action movie, comparable to the best that have come out of the film industery.

The Wire is more hard hitting due to everything you see actually happening in real life. All the stories in the Wire have all happened in actual life.

brother mouzone was such a goofy character in the context of that universe though.

he belonged more in breaking bad than the wire. he'd fit in more alongside people like gus and the terminator-twins
 
Of course The Sopranos writers posses a complete understanding of human beings and thus TV viewers. Remember how utterly satisfying the last two seasons and the finale were? ;)
 
It's silly to compare BB to The Wire. Both are really different shows. BB is like a really brilliant thriller or an action movie, comparable to the best that have come out of the film industery.
Seriously. That's why I like BB so much - it has all the action, all the suspense, all the fistpump "Yeah!" moments of the best Hollywood thrillers. But where it goes beyond that is that we've seen these characters over such a long period of time (the luxury of television) that these incredible moments have such a weight to them.

It's hard to appreciate good movies nowadays because television is just on another level - you feel that there are high stakes and consequences in a way that movies just can't match.
 
Of course The Sopranos writers posses a complete understanding of human beings and thus TV viewers. Remember how utterly satisfying the last two season and the finale were? ;)

that last season has A LOT of depth to it's characters.

made me think of people like Tony and Paulie for instance in a slightly different light.

hate on last season all you want, but i think the only show that might be able to give us a final season like that right now may be Mad Men.

and don't play his game brah. this doesn't need to be a pissing match between shows. they're both going for different things.
 
Plane crash, yes. But the cousins? The last 5 minutes of "One Minute" were some of the most intense moments in the entire show and it was probably the most intense moment that didn't directly involve Walt, to me.

I agree that the scene in One Minute was among the series' highlights, but for all of their buildup, I expected the cousins to be highly skilled: they would take out Hank in a way that is silent, quick, and methodical. Then they try to shoot him through his car window in broad daylight in front of a police station. Just one man's opinion. Still loved their confrontation with Hank.
 
The only two major weak points I can think of in BB are the S2 plane crash and Tuco's cousins. Mainly because both were given a lot of build up and were ultimately anticlimactic. Otherwise, nitpicking about specific lines or "slapstick" moments seems silly. Breaking Bad is unapologetic about its absurdity; it has always had a layer of dark humor from the very first episode and the very premise is arguably unrealistic. To me, stuff like that just doesn't detract from the show, because the dialogue, characterization, atmosphere, and storytelling is strong across the board.

These guys were easily the worst part of the show for me. They were just so ridiculous and silly that they felt like they belonged in another show entirely.
 
The only two major weak points I can think of in BB are the S2 plane crash and Tuco's cousins. Mainly because both were given a lot of build up and were ultimately anticlimactic. Otherwise, nitpicking about specific lines or "slapstick" moments seems silly. Breaking Bad is unapologetic about its absurdity; it has always had a layer of dark humor from the very first episode and the very premise is arguably unrealistic. To me, stuff like that just doesn't detract from the show, because the dialogue, characterization, atmosphere, and storytelling is strong across the board.

One Minute was anticlimactic? What?
 
No, Lost is equally preposterous. I'm saying that no Breaking Bad moment ill have the understated sublimity of the best scenes from The Sopranos or Mad Men because Breaking Bad's writers don't really understand human beings.

Not only is your statement absolutely ridiculous, but you also seem to think that comparing Breaking Bad to Sopranos or Mad Men (LOL) is a good idea. As if BrBa tried to accomplish the same things as both of those series.
 
that last season has A LOT of depth to it's characters.

made me think of people like Tony and Paulie for instance in a slightly different light.

hate on last season all you want, but i think the only show that might be able to give us a final season like that right now may be Mad Men.
Yikes, I hope not. I don't want Mad Men's last season and finale to be underwhelming like The Sopranos :(
 
These guys were easily the worst part of the show for me. They were just so ridiculous and silly that they felt like they belonged in another show entirely.

at the time it felt silly as hell. but looking back at the plane crash and gus' final scene, they pretty much do belong there too.

brother mouzone from the wire, now that is something that didn't belong. felt more like a breaking bad villain.
 
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The only two major weak points I can think of in BB are the S2 plane crash and Tuco's cousins.

Yeah, I really hated the plane crash. It seemed to only exist so that they could make an exciting trailer for the season finale. Its almost like AMC forced the writers to make something big (Special effects-wise) happen to build up hype.
 
Are you seriously claiming fucking LOST has better writing than Breaking Bad?
To this date, "The Constant" and "Through the Looking Glass" are still my favorite episodes of any TV series. I didn't like it as much as "Breaking Bad" overall but it was a really great show.
 
I didn't like the plane crash at first, but I've really warmed up to it since. It's a visual representation of the numerous lives that Walt has ruined that we haven't seen on camera.
 
Yeah, I really hated the plane crash. It seemed to only exist so that they could make an exciting trailer for the season finale. Its almost like AMC forced the writers to make something big (Special effects-wise) happen to build up hype.

I hated the cock teases of flash forwards we got and what they implied but I thought it was an interesting version of The Butterfly Effect
 
I felt like they needed those final four minutes to be really good because the 40 before it were a tad pants. I mean, 25 minutes in and we've barely progressed from the end of episode 8.
 
I felt like they needed those final four minutes to be really good because the 40 before it were a tad pants. I mean, 25 minutes in and we've barely progressed from the end of episode 8.

Seriously? The flashforward, Hank's breakdown, Lydia trying to drag Walt back into the drug business, Hank connecting the dots in the Heisenberg and Gus Fring case and Jesse trying to give his money to the Mike's granddaughter and the tarantula boy's parents wasn't enough?
 
I felt like they needed those final four minutes to be really good because the 40 before it were a tad pants. I mean, 25 minutes in and we've barely progressed from the end of episode 8.
o.0 It took just one episode between Hank finding out about Walt to Hank confronting Walt. The pace of the show has been frenetic as hell since the beginning of season 5.

Lesser shows would have postponed that confrontation for a season or two.
 
Seriously? The flashforward, Hank's breakdown, Lydia trying to drag Walt back into the drug business, Hank connecting the dots in the Heisenberg and Gus Fring case and Jesse trying to give his money to the Mike's granddaughter and the tarantula boy's parents wasn't enough?

The flashforward barely added anything, Lydia's scene was completely flat, the Hank stuff was good but ultimately nothing new and felt like a crutch for the viewers who didn't quite get why Hank flew off like he did, and I found the Jesse scenes utterly insufferable (the whole vacant, mute act isn't why I appreciate the character).

And then those last four minutes were great.

o.0 It took just one episode between Hank finding out about Walt to Hank confronting Walt. The pace of the show has been frenetic as hell since the beginning of season 5.

Lesser shows would have postponed that confrontation for a season or two.
Let's be honest, from the moment he read that line on the toilet we all knew that he knew.

I wanted him to light the fire in the opening few minutes, at the house.
 
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