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[Admiral Bone to Pick]

Ricin is complicated to make, so it's unlikely Walt would simply be able to make more if he was on the run. It's also incredibly rare, so it's not something he could just buy. To add to that, Ricin is a slow killing poison; if memory serves, it kills someone over the course of 3-5 days rather than right away. So whoever Walt intends to use it on isn't going to be killed instantly.

 

[sixteen-bit]

I feel like I'm missing the joke here.

Many people complain the show's pacing is slow. Probably a parody of that.

 

[Raiden]

Walt should of stopped and could of stopped after he killed Krazy 8. He genuinely got into the meth business to fill that empty void he's had for doing nothing in his life, for living in the same starter house, for being inferior to all his friends, and more.

His ego is exactly what got him into trouble. His ego is exactly the reason why he didn't behave like an considerate person.

He had a solution to all his problems if he accepted Elliot's money. Heisenberg is just a name that Walt gave to his ego just to have a better way of identifying the two.

Yes, that is all very true, but what i basically mean is that you cant flatout say that Walt doesnt give a shit about his family. The way he did things is something else however.

 

[Toa TAK]

What do you guys think of Bryan Cranston as a director? He did direct Blood Money.

Personally I think he does a great job.

 

[RangerX]

When and why did Hank put the tracker on Walts car? I can't remember.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

- TVbtN: 'Breaking Bad' Premiere Delivers 5.2 Million Viewers, 3.6 Million Adults 18-49:O

Whoaaaa that's fucking crazy!

Demos approximate:

BREAKING BAD: 2.9 A1949, 5.9 million
LOW WINTER SUN: 1.1 A1849, 2.5 million
TALKING BAD, THE: 0.5 A1849, 1.2 million

No demos yet for Hell on Wheels, but its Saturday 2 hour premiere was 2.5 million, up from last season's Sunday premiere.

AMC had a very good weekend. Those Hell on Wheels numbers are very promising. I naturally thought that, being on a Saturday an all, ratings would be down by quite a bit, but it looks like people do want to watch shows on Saturdays after all.

 

[JawzPause]

For those confused at the Hank + Walt conversation:

CC's from AMC's website.

This makes so much more sense.
I've already watched the episode twice and both times I thought he said "like I give a shit about family"

 

[sappyday]

Yes, that is all very true, but what i basically mean is that you cant flatout say that Walt doesnt give a shit about his family. The way he did things is something else however.

At this point I would say he cares more about himself than of his family. In the beginning you're right. He actually did care about his family.

 

[Servbot24]

He didn't intend to put his family in danger. And Hank's obsession with Blue Sky/Heisenberg helped put him in those sticky situations as well.

Flying a bit too close to the sun with the trolling, mate.

 

[maharg]

if hank gives a shit about family he will let it slide

walt's already legit moving on from the industry

Yeah he's been out of it for a WHOLE MONTH. I mean wow.

If Walt gave a shit about family he'd have been out in like season 1 episode 3.

 

[smokeymicpot]

What do you guys think of Bryan Cranston as a director? He did direct Blood Money.

He did a few other episodes if I remember he does a good job.

 

[Cornballer]

He did a few other episodes if I remember he does a good job.

Seven Thirty-Seven and No Más. That's the S2 and S3 premieres, respectively.

 

[zewone]

He didn't intend to put his family in danger.

Having good intentions doesn't change the fact his family could have been hurt or killed at any moment.

Look at Hank being crippled.

How about Gus threatening to kill his wife and kids if he goes near Pinkman?

If Walt missed a beat, they all could be dead. But he had good intentions.

 

[RoninChaos]

AMC got embroiled in long negotiations with Gilligan and Co about how to finish off the show (how many seasons, how many episodes, money, etc...). Ultimately, AMC didn't want a sixth season in the contract because it meant they'd have to pay raises that are built into the contract. They came to this compromise in the end (16-episodes split over two years but listed as a single season.) It's another messy example of AMC's stinginess, but Gilligan was happy with the episode count and getting to finish on his own terms.

When else have they done this? Is AMC being stingy? Even with the ratings doubling, this show doesn't have the audience of a prime time TV show on something like ABC. And the show doesn't look cheap nor are its actors shitty dime-a-dozen that you find on network TV. I'm sure AMC is raking in the cash, but are they really being stingy or are they just being aware that they are a small cable network in the scheme of things?

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Yeah he's been out of it for a WHOLE MONTH. I mean wow.

If Walt gave a shit about family he'd have been out in like season 1 episode 3.

"Hey man look has family wasn't in DANGER danger, it was just in danger! Walt's a good dude!"

 

[faceless007]

Do we know if Gilligan did the finale again? Or maybe the last 2 like S4?

Edit: looked up on Wiki, he did the last one.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Do we know if Gilligan did the finale again? Or maybe the last 2 like S4?

I think he did the last 2

 

[Cornballer]

Do we know if Gilligan did the finale again? Or maybe the last 2 like S4?

Yes, he did. The rest of this season goes: MacLaren-Slovis-Catlin-MacLaren-Johnson-Gould-Gilligan

 

[Bomber Bob]

There's only seven hours left of Breaking Bad after all.

im super sad

 

[triplestation]

Yeah he's been out of it for a WHOLE MONTH. I mean wow.

If Walt gave a shit about family he'd have been out in like season 1 episode 3.

although he did care about himself and fulfilling his own desires he still had in mind the security of his family's future once he is gone

he went overboard with the money he's made and with the kingpin persona he's been indulging in.. but fortunately skylar has managed to snap him out of it for real and now he's lived the dream and has secured his family for the future

but now there is hank and i think he is the one who is going to blow up the singled winged ''airplane'' walt has bought to a clean landing

 

[TimeEffect]

I truly believe that the Walt we're seeing in the flash forwards is the one that is going to die. He's already blowing his cover, he knows it but he doesn't care. That means he plans on dying that same day. In that case he probably doesn't have time to go cook up some new poison. The biggest question is what he needs the ricin for and what he needs the M60 for.

I heard that Cranston asked, when he saw the M60

Spoiler

"Am I saving someone"

, to which one of the writers or maybe Gilligan replied

Spoiler

"Yes"

I think it came from an interview, too lazy to Google it, but if true, then I assume

Spoiler

he goes back for Jesse? It's too much of a trope to think he redeems himself and saves Jesse, but it's something people want because they love the two.

I'm still certain that Lydia and the Czech are going to be the ones to end Heisenberg, only because they prove that the business is much grander than either Heisenberg or the DEA. She is a loose end that is timid enough to overlook.

Also, regarding Saul, I remember Gilligan saying that he's like a

Spoiler

cockroach, and that those things survive nuclear explosions. He makes it very clear that he is the only one that gets any kind of happy ending from any of this.

 

[Lonestar]

Maybe already posted, but someone animated Badger's epic Star Trek Script

http://www.vulture.com/2013/08/breaking-bad-badger-star-trek-story-animated.html

Bones totally mouth's "He's Dead Jim"

 

[faceless007]

Yes, he did. The rest of this season goes: MacLaren-Slovis-Catlin-MacLaren-Johnson-Gould-Gilligan

All trusted regulars. Might have been interesting to get a new face in (I remember reading a while back that a lot of Hollywood directors were lining up around the block to try to get a shot at directing a BB) but I can't fault Vince for going with experienced hands who have been on the show for a while.

MacLaren's are always especially good, hyped for next week.

 

[Uncle Ulty]

When and why did Hank put the tracker on Walts car? I can't remember.

Im not 100% sure it was Hank. Didn't Walt track Jesse using the same GPS locator and tell him about it? I think it is possible it could have been Jesse.

 

[Finalow]

thanks.

great episode, anyway.

 

[TimeEffect]

im super sad

Considering each episode is about 45-50 min long, that's like -10 minutes for the next 6-7 episodes, so it's more like 6 hours

 

[TimeEffect]

Im not 100% sure it was Hank. Didn't Walt track Jesse using the same GPS locator and tell him about it? I think it is possible it could have been Jesse.

It's definitely Hank. He closed the garage door.

Also, I don't get why people assume Jesse is stable enough to care about Walt. He's in his own world, and he isn't antagonizing Walt for any reason. He's accepted what has happened.

 

[rekameohs]

 

[faceless007]

Considering each episode is about 45-50 min long, that's like -10 minutes for the next 6-7 episodes, so it's more like 6 hours

The last 2 are actually about 6 minutes longer than normal (so about 50 minutes).

 

[-griffy-]

Im not 100% sure it was Hank. Didn't Walt track Jesse using the same GPS locator and tell him about it? I think it is possible it could have been Jesse.

No, it was obviously Hank. He put it on there sometime after he got off the toilet and before Walt found it, and the reason he put it there is simply and obviously because he realized Walt was Heisenberg, the man he's been hunting for the last two years or so.

There's no other explanation for Hank's reaction in the last scene when Walt pulls it out. He closes the garage door because he knows there is no excuse he can make for it, and it's going down right here and now.

 

[Cornballer]

When else have they done this? Is AMC being stingy? Even with the ratings doubling, this show doesn't have the audience of a prime time TV show on something like ABC. And the show doesn't look cheap nor are its actors shitty dime-a-dozen that you find on network TV. I'm sure AMC is raking in the cash, but are they really being stingy or are they just being aware that they are a small cable network in the scheme of things?

Ever since they went public back in 2011, there have been numerous stories of them cutting corners and being stingy. They've had lengthy contract disputes with Gilligan and Weiner, multiple showrunners have been fired from TWD (ostensibly for budget reasons), etc... The THR article on Darabont leaving TWD lays out a lot of it. Again, I understand that they're running a business, but I'd prefer that they put a bigger focus on providing people the means to make great television rather than nickel and diming everyone that gets in the way of them making a few more bucks. As someone that's a consumer and not a shareholder, I'm more interested in watching good tv than I am in their bottom line.

 

[Red Liquorice]

@_@ Amazing return.

I can't fucking wait for the rest of the season. This show. This show.

 

[ivysaur12]

My brother and his astute critical analysis of last night's Breaking Bad:

 

[liquidtmd]

These are simultaneously complete shit and make me laugh like a bitch

 

[RangerX]

Im not 100% sure it was Hank. Didn't Walt track Jesse using the same GPS locator and tell him about it? I think it is possible it could have been Jesse.

Ah right yeah i forgot about that. Cheers. Great episode anyway

 

[Nameless]

Having good intentions doesn't change the fact his family could have been hurt or killed at any moment.

Look at Hank being crippled.

How about Gus threatening to kill his wife and kids if he goes near Pinkman?

If Walt missed a beat, they all could be dead. But he had good intentions.

I don't disagree. It's just if you listen to Walt criticism the man has never simply made a mistake or had noble intentions. All of his blunders and moments of naivety are retroactively painted as the methodical workings of an evil sociopath.

Gus was only a threat to his family if Walt interfered to save Hank and guess what he did?

 

[Amir0x]

by the way I absolutely adore that Hank brought up the fact that Walt tried to kill them in a car accident so he wouldn't get to the laundrymat

 

[RoninChaos]

Ever since they went public back in 2011, there have been numerous stories of them cutting corners and being stingy. They've had lengthy contract disputes with Gilligan and Weiner, multiple showrunners have been fired from TWD (ostensibly for budget reasons), etc... The THR article on Darabont leaving TWD lays out a lot of it. Again, I understand that they're running a business, but I'd prefer that they put a bigger focus on providing people the means to make great television rather than nickel and diming everyone that gets in the way of them making a few more bucks. As someone that's a consumer and not a shareholder, I'm more interested in watching good tv than I am in their bottom line.

Thanks for the links! I'll check them out when I have time.

 

[Roland1979]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6v-ApehVbc

It's old, but hilarious

It's... brilliant!

 

[triplestation]

 

[Uncle Ulty]

It's definitely Hank. He closed the garage door.

Also, I don't get why people assume Jesse is stable enough to care about Walt. He's in his own world, and he isn't antagonizing Walt for any reason. He's accepted what has happened.

I just got the feeling Jesse knows for sure that Walt killed Mike and has some sort of evidence to prove it. If Jesse found that out he might just make his last mission to take care of his granddaughter and get revenge on Walt. As close as they had gotten I wouldn't even be surprised if Mike asked Jesse to take care of things if he disappeared forever.

 

[Anustart]

by the way I absolutely adore that Hank brought up the fact that Walt tried to kill them in a car accident so he wouldn't get to the laundrymat

Is this just you trolling to get people to react to you saying Walt tried to kill them so you can go on again about how terrible it is to root for or like Walt?

 

[Nibel]

My brother and his astute critical analysis of last night's Breaking Bad:

This is fucking amazing :lol

 

[Nicktendo86]

I just got the feeling Jesse knows for sure that Walt killed Mike and has some sort of evidence to prove it. If Jesse found that out he might just make his last mission to take care of his granddaughter and get revenge on Walt. As close as they had gotten I wouldn't even be surprised if Mike asked Jesse to take care of things if he disappeared forever.

I doing think he has proof, I don't think he needs proof. He just KNOWS.

 

[NotLiquid]

Oh geez. I'm going back watching all the Breaking Bad episodes and I'm on Season 2. I just remembered the scene where Hank gets a small lecture about keeping your enemies close to you as it will aid you in battle. And now in the new episode, Walt tells him to tread lightly as Hank "doesn't even know him". Funny coincidence.

 

[Amir0x]

Is this just you trolling to get people to react to you saying Walt tried to kill them so you can go on again about how terrible it is to root for or like Walt?

I don't know how a statement about an awesome aspect of the episode can imply all that, seems like a guilty conscience.

The Walt lovers have already lost the debate so it's not like it's necessary to keep appeasing their hilarious interpretation. <-- see, this line is what you thought the original line was supposed to be

 

[TimeEffect]

I just got the feeling Jesse knows for sure that Walt killed Mike and has some sort of evidence to prove it. If Jesse found that out he might just make his last mission to take care of his granddaughter and get revenge on Walt. As close as they had gotten I wouldn't even be surprised if Mike asked Jesse to take care of things if he disappeared forever.

I don't know. With what he did with the money, and his continued spiral, I don't see him having the head to do that. Jesse is a loose end. Maybe he'll come clean, but he's definitely suited to rot in prison for the rest of his life. It's the worst thing that could happen to him, because of uncharacteristic it is for him to be in jail.

I think the way he accepted Walt's speech about Mike shows that, yeah he knows Walt is lying, but there's nothing he can do about it. He's disgusted by Walt, but he never had any intention of seeing Walt. Walt came to him. This was after a good month. And it's clear that he knew Walt killed Mike for a long, long time. Him confessing his thoughts to Walt just shows the audience that he knew this all along.

And there's no way he can take care of Mike's girl. It was silly to wire the money, but it shows how naive and good willed Jesse is, if not completely torn by his conscience.

I don't think revenge for Mike is on his mind, I don't think Walt is on his mind. I think he's simply unable to cope with getting out of the game and leaving his past behind. That's why I don't get the Jesse hate. Everybody talks about what they would do if they were in these guys' shoes, but I think most would break down and get torn apart like Jesse.

If he comes clean, then it's because he does it for himself, and not to get revenge on Walt.

 

[pulga]

What an amazing cap to the episode. Dat threat.

Jesse needs to stop the whining ASAP and go back to being awesome Jesse soon. I understand the need to have him mope but just get it over with quick, there's only seven episodes left.

 

[Nokagi]

Carol just don't give a fuck.

 

[Anustart]

I don't know how a statement about an awesome aspect of the episode can imply all that, seems like a guilty conscience.

The Walt lovers have already lost the debate so it's not like it's necessary to keep appeasing their hilarious interpretation. <-- see, this line is what you thought the original line was supposed to be

Because Walt wasn't trying to kill either of them?