Black Mamba
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Couldn't go to sleep until I saw this episode. oh god, dat ending confrontation was amazing.
Seriously, had to re-watch it it was so good.
Seriously, had to re-watch it it was so good.
Breaking Bad - Season 5, Part 2 - The Final Eight Episodes - Sundays on AMC
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digoutyoursoul
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Tread lightly....
Holy shit
Holy shit
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I love how quickly things progress in this show. Things that might be stretched out over seasons can rapidly go south in Breaking Bad.
The confrontation at the end of this episode could easily have been in the last or second-to-last episode of another show..... but they clearly want to take us to more interesting places with this final half season.
The confrontation at the end of this episode could easily have been in the last or second-to-last episode of another show..... but they clearly want to take us to more interesting places with this final half season.
digoutyoursoul
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The writers for Dexter should take a good look, the last season of that has been a disgrace
:lol
Blame Showtime for not ending shows, ever.
See also: Weeds.
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So good.
Also, dat cold open, hnnnggg... Can't fucking wait to get to that timeline. Given the state of the house, it's obviously well beyond the six months Walt claims he has left to live.
Are you really surprised in a world where people defend child poisoning?
It's like these people are junkies and the only thing that satisfies is quick cuts and slapdash action with no regards for logical writing or characterization. A return of "confident" Jesse? Is this shit for real? He can never return there. It would make no sense at all for him suddenly not to be a crushed shell of a man. He's not going to get over it. Walt is still alive. Jesse performances consistently have been bloody fucking incredible in this stage of the show as well.
That said, as I've said for a few years now, I believe Jesse is going to go after Walt for what he has done, and I believe that will be the closest to "confident" Jesse you ever see again.
It wasn't intuition though. If you watch the scene again you'll notice that he doesn't immediately look up and notice the book is gone. He has a moment of relief where the vomiting stopped and takes a couple of breathes, then as he's composing himself he notices the book is missing.
It wasn't until after he knows the book is missing that he makes the Hank connection, which is totally natural considering Hank suddenly became ill after leaving the bathroom and no one else in the house could have taken it.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I couldn't agree more. I was thinking of Dexter as I typed that post.
#TRUTHFACT: Walking Dead (sans ep1) and True Blood were never any good *whistle*. Dexter was only decent for like a season and a half
Misterinenja
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Couldn't stand Jesse scenes in this.
Hah, I just noticed that after 6 years, they FINALLY fixed the scientific error in Breaking Bad's logo.
From Gliding Over All:
From Blood Money:
The electron configuration for Barium has consistently been wrong throughout the whole series (can be seen in the lower left corner of the 'Ba' square), but they got it right this time!
From Gliding Over All:
From Blood Money:
The electron configuration for Barium has consistently been wrong throughout the whole series (can be seen in the lower left corner of the 'Ba' square), but they got it right this time!
Yeah, I agree, fuck Jane.
Also, the only way I'm satisfied with Walt getting killed is if it's by Jesse's hands. He was a big reason for Heisenberg being brought into the world, he needs to be the catalyst for him being taken out. #TeamWalt
Also, the flash forward in this episode was wonderfully done, I mean, absolutely chilling. Future-Walt is such an enigma-like character. We've seen him in only two scenes and yet his character is so rich in terms of perspective. It seems that he isn't quite Walt, but he isn't quite Heisenberg either. Future Walt seems like an empty shell of a man, neither cold and calculating nor warm and goofy. It's scary, vividly creepy, and it just makes me want to get to that timeline so much.
Also, the only way I'm satisfied with Walt getting killed is if it's by Jesse's hands. He was a big reason for Heisenberg being brought into the world, he needs to be the catalyst for him being taken out. #TeamWalt
Also, the flash forward in this episode was wonderfully done, I mean, absolutely chilling. Future-Walt is such an enigma-like character. We've seen him in only two scenes and yet his character is so rich in terms of perspective. It seems that he isn't quite Walt, but he isn't quite Heisenberg either. Future Walt seems like an empty shell of a man, neither cold and calculating nor warm and goofy. It's scary, vividly creepy, and it just makes me want to get to that timeline so much.
digoutyoursoul
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That end credits music, slightly haunting
#TRUTHFACT: Walking Dead (sans ep1) and True Blood were never any good *whistle*. Dexter was only decent for like a season and a half
In regards to Dexter, season four was pretty good television in my opinion.
Some of season 4 was good. What I mean is that the combined total of every good episode of Dexter would equal about a season and a half of episodes
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I get the sense Jesse is dead by the time the flashforward happens... or at least long gone. I don't think Walt would need to use that big gun against someone like Jesse. If he does kill Walt, it'll be interesting to see how they reconnect in the flashforward given how much time has passed.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Some of season 4 was good. What I mean is that the combined total of every good episode of Dexter would equal about a season and a half of episodes
Well said.
Future-Walt saying hi to the neighbor and then Present-Walt saying hi to the neighbor?
That's simple, but brilliant. It says so much.
GoddamnSome of season 4 was good. What I mean is that the combined total of every good episode of Dexter would equal about a season and a half of episodes
beyond_death
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Holy shit, that was amazing!! I didnt expect things to be moving so quickly tbh.
Yep,
It's a year from "now" (or a bit less, depends how long the passage of time was after he quit cooking to Hank finding out), he isn't dead, he has his hair, he looks beaten and despondent but we have no idea why. Everything we see suggest everyone knows who he is but what does that mean? No pride in it for him certainly based on his demeanour.
It's pretty sad. This last season of Dex is remarkably bad so far. Almost as if the writers realized the only thing the show is known for at this point is how absurd and nonsensical it is and they felt the only direction they had left was to try to top themselves in that absurdity.
Last 3 minutes of this episode of BB was better than like 4 entire combined seasons of Dexter lol
He did seem to not care about frightening that old lady, though. Couldn't tell if he was enjoying that reaction though.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I didn't read it like that. I don't think he likes scaring her... just that when he knew she recognized him, he wasn't going to shy away from saying essentially "yup, it's me".
This, he's already dead.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
This saddens me, I have yet to watch season 7 and 8 (mainly because 5 and 6 were so bad).
Yeah, he was definitely indifferent to her reaction. Just kind of not even giving a damn. And not in a Heisenberg "Not give a fuck and enjoy it" kind of way, but just like the "..." kind of not caring. It's weird because that's not something we've seen from Walt's character at all since the show began. He has at least always cared about or wanted to do something whether it was Heisenberg of Mr. White. This Walt is weirdly different.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
This Walt has probably lost both family and meth empire... I imagine he's quite defeated, and his only purpose is to settle scores....
Dean Norris lost some weight since the last year, no? He seems thinner.
Solid episode. Opening was amazing, ending was among the best scenes of the series. Star Trek script was hilarious, so was Carol. Overall though I wouldn't call this episode "amazing" like some are proclaiming here. It was solid, very good, but apart from these scenes I thought it was simply "solid".
Then again, maybe I'm spoiled and overhyped by the rewatch.
Solid episode. Opening was amazing, ending was among the best scenes of the series. Star Trek script was hilarious, so was Carol. Overall though I wouldn't call this episode "amazing" like some are proclaiming here. It was solid, very good, but apart from these scenes I thought it was simply "solid".
Then again, maybe I'm spoiled and overhyped by the rewatch.
Whats interesting to me about it is how relaxed he is. He's clearly on the run and yet hes returning to his old home in broad day light and takes his time.
Come on now, Hank hadn't eaten more than a small bag of potato chips in a week since coming off of the toilet.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I'm currently reading that as "he has little left to lose, so why stress on his way to nefarious score-settling goals", but time will tell.
That was my take, more of a "fuck it, Hi Carol", he even seemed sad, just another reminder of the monster he became.
miffed that hank putting it all together and walt not realizing only lasted an episode before the show contrived a way out - i buy that walt is paranoid enough to check for bugs, but walt suddenly noticing the book gone so quickly ehhh. i really liked the dynamic of seeing hank have to deal with his world falling apart - both in terms of his relationships being destroyed and realizing how stupid he was for not piecing it together before - and not being able to show it yet as he hasn't got all the pieces, despite normally being so gregarious and a little condescending towards walt. the scenes where he makes a quick dash and can barely speak to walt before walt brings out the bug were brilliant. i guess i wanted that conflict not the how do we get to the silly future walt scene to drive the second part of the series.
Wow.
I was a ltitle lost when they started flinging out names, had a hard time remembering what happened. Thank wiki though.
I should have started a season 5 rewatch last week.
Walt is one of the best villians ever. So much menace at the drop of a hat. I'm not sure who the hero is going to be to take him down: Jessie, Skylar, Hank, Cancer... or Walt Jr!!!
I was a ltitle lost when they started flinging out names, had a hard time remembering what happened. Thank wiki though.
I should have started a season 5 rewatch last week.
Walt is one of the best villians ever. So much menace at the drop of a hat. I'm not sure who the hero is going to be to take him down: Jessie, Skylar, Hank, Cancer... or Walt Jr!!!
About 9am.
I had to leave for work at 10 and I saw Netflix tweet that it was up, so I was like
Expendable.
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So glad they got Walt to see what Hank was up to by this episode -- most shows would drag that out an entire season. Bring on the last 7!
-Pyromaniac-
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Jesse aint killing Walt lol, the dude can barely live with himself already. Also doubt that he would snitch on Walt considering he'd be dead multiple times without him. Of course someone will say Walt sucked him into it to begin with but never the less. Jesse won't play that blame game I don't think. He'll take ownership.
They dicussed this in Talking Bad. Julie Bowen and Vince were there, Julie said that Walt needed Jesse to believe he was innocent of killing Mike because Jesse is the last thing that is keeping Walt grounded in some kind of morality. If he loses Jesse Walt is gone. Vince was agreeing with this immensely, so it seems to me Julie is spot on.
Based on that I'm gonna say I don't expect Jesse to make it to the end of the season. Something is gonna happen to him, wether Walt kills him directly or he gets killed due to something Walt has done, but I think that's what pushes him to become the person we've seen in the two flash-forwards.
tycoonheart
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My friend brought up an interesting point.
Walt working at the car wash was a mirror image of Gus working at Los Pollos Hermanos.
Walt working at the car wash was a mirror image of Gus working at Los Pollos Hermanos.
Yeah I think we get a few hints that he has always be an amoral son of a bitch.
The meth business was just a empire building fantasy, just as this car washing business is becoming for him. If he had time he's take over all the cash washing businessed in the city and blow the shit out of any other that tried to start up in his patch.
-Pyromaniac-
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I could see jesse dying but I also don't think that will happen by Walt's hand. I think they introduced Lidya needing a cook early on purpose. She can't force Walt of course so I think they'll take Jesse by force or something.
Honestly this show is impossible to predict at this point. Way too much could happen.
The One Who Knocks
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That was how I read it also; it was apathy more than an attempt at intimidation. By that stage he clearly isn't concerned about playing any sort of long game (or planning for the future). The cancer is going to kill him (and by that time, sooner rather than later), he is equipped with an M60 and ammunition (not a subtle weapon), and he has returned to his abandoned home (not the brightest idea if on the run and fearing a reprisal); there is no indication that he has any plan for the future, or need of one for that matter, given what is otherwise reckless behaviour. There really isn't any need for him to be concerned what she'll do, all signs point to him causing immediate damage and having no need to fear the reprecussions. I am also anticipating that he'll use the ricin on himself, for the simple reason that a covert assassination at this point in time seems completely redundant, but as that hasn't yet come to pass it probably shouldn't be included in case it doesn't happen. The lack of concern for the future is part of the reason I believe he'll ingest the ricin himself. The cancer initially removed all of his fears, something he directly stated when commenting on how he sleeps soundly since his diagnosis, and I must imagine that before whatever bold action he takes, the ricin would have the same effect; he must go through with it because death is certain and there is no need to fear the reprecussions. Of course it could be for an inconspicuous murder before he goes off with the M60 but I'm leaning towards the former given what I assume is his state of mind at that point in time.
While Hank knows, Lydia seems the immediate threat to me. I was beginning to suspect that Skyler would murder her at some point this season during the scene at the car wash but in hindsight that seems extremely unlikely. Either way though, I think she'll be dealt with in the next episode, maybe the next two, and the fallout from that will be significant. With her disposed of Todd may become problematic as he would be taking a significant reduction in the amount of money he's making. Dennis' displeasure is likely growing also as he too did not expect to be left with 60/70% pure meth (ignoring the reality of how much of an impact that would actually have) which his own men were capable of.
As for the actual episode though, I thought it was terrific. I didn't appreciate the increased pace last season at all (even on a rewatch and I know technically it was only half of a season) but here it feels fitting, particularly with how much ground must be covered. Two scenes in particular, the one with Walter and Jesse and the one with Walter and Hank, were absolutely magnificent as the tension was palpable. I also liked the continuation of Walter taking his victim's traits as he now has two aspect of Gus'; his behaviour in the carwash with Lydia and his owning of the Volvo from the fifthy-two flash-forward (which was shown last year), it's three if you want to count the towel but I'm discounting it solely on the basis that Walter never saw Gus do that even though it seems like a reference to him (his casual talk with the DEA agents at the end could also be seen as a slight reference to Gus but I think it's flimsier than the others). That shouldn't discredit the rest of the episode however, it was solid all around. I'm eagerly awaiting the next episode. One thing I was disappointed with is Netflix UK not having the episode uploaded immediately following the US broadcast as had been stated (but it was up an hour and a half ago so I know it isn't too bad) but that's not a problem with the show.
EDIT: Oh also, it really is unfortunate for the final season of Dexter to be going on at the same time as this. Throughout this episode, there was a clear sense of dread, a growing, insurmountable sense of tension, and at times an almost chaotic unpredictability (not as much as it will certainly become though but that is primarily because this was simply the first episode). Dexter on the other hand has been playing it safe and almost flat throughout the season. To me, Breaking Bad's return is making the flaws in Dexter much more apparent (not that they weren't clear already) by giving a crystal clear contrast. This really does feel like the final season of the show.
I still think Walt will save Jesse and die doing it, giving him some redemption, perhaps Jesse is being forced to cook by someone.
It seemed to me that the reason Walt was so despondent even when things were going well is because it wasn't Jesse he was working with. He is Walts only friend, despite all the shit he has pulled, most of it was to keep Jesse close.
I would hope the last seven episodes are not going to involve some "Jesse is kidnapped/forced cook" drama. A kidnapping subplot on a show is usually wheel-spinning and doesn't serve to do anything but waste everyone's time (look to 24 and numerous others for examples).
Thank god for writers who are loyal to the characters and don't try to make them artificially "do" the things many people in this thread have suggested.
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