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Brexit |OT| UK Referendum on EU Membership - 23 June 2016

Did you vote for the side that is going to win?


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Feel bad for you guys in the UK and in the EU.

This will only embolden similar movements in other EU countries but I can only hope that effect is as limited as possible.

Can't see Scotland taking this well at all.

I a tually dont feel bad about this. UK uas been preventing the EU to become a closer union for decades and we have seen in the greek crisis and the immigration crisis that you cant just take a few issues and give it to a supranational institution whike the rest does what the fuck they please. We need a closer union and now the biggest opposer is gone.
 
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Madness

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Unless the US economy enters a recession because of this bullshit.

You never know what can happen. No one can predict events like Orlando, or a quick recession etc. Human history and behavior is unpredictable. I still think Hillary will win since Donald Trump pissed off the Hispanic vote which he really needed. There just aren't enough easy white republican votes for him. Even white women are probably thinking Hillary is probably better for them.
 

TheDragon

Member
Am I wrong to think that Cameron should trigger article 50 and resign asap and let Boris handle all this fallout 4 the entire year so that people who voted leave may understand the gravity of what they did and another referendum may be announced sometime later?
 
I think people hate Trump enough that they will come out just to vote against him. It's not a vote for Hillary as much as a vote against Trump.

That's more dangerous for Hillary. Both Trump and Hillary have historically high unfavorable ratings.

Elections with high unfavorables lead to depressed turnout. So if Trump can turn out a lot of people, he can win. The electoral map is against him, but a lot of people are staying home this November in the US.
 

[Fugo]

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Farewell, UK.
A big scar on the European Union, indeed;
But, I believe, a true scare for the United Crown. The Scots strongly voted for Remain, as well as the Northern Irish (are they called like that, by the way?).
So while the European *Union* will probably withstand the blow albeit with serious consequences, the *United* Kingdom is in big trouble.

#brexit
 

Mr Cola

Brothas With Attitude / The Wrong Brotha to Fuck Wit / Die Brotha Die / Brothas in Paris
Any pro-Brexit people here want to chime in and say the good that will come from this? Y'all are being super quiet.

There are pro brexiters here but GAF skews young, liberal and university educated which almost entirely voted for remain according to stats, its not a case of them being quiet its a case that there just are not that many.
 

Audioboxer

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The bolded is what I'm wondering about. Are there any examples of countries of Scotland's size and economic base that have successfully operated without a massive oil fund like Norway?

Well what is worse than 1.6 trillion of debt?

I mean don't people see the irony saying will Scotland be okay without England? It's London and Tory/Labour parties who have put this country in debt, privatised nearly everything and are slaughtering the NHS. All while renewing Trident like it's chump change.

We actually have a party up here unified against half the shite the Tories love. So yeah, we have a chance.
 
It's the shakedown France and Germany will now inflict on this country to ensure the survival of the EU. It will be brutal.

France and Germany have every right to stand shoulder to shoulder to try and preserve the EU. Maybe they'll also be nicer to Greece, Spain, Portugal, and Italy now to prevent them from saying 'Fuck it' and leaving the EU too.
 

Randomizer

Member
I love how the leave voters are celebrating. Look at the affects it's having on the economy already never mind the widening wedge being driven between the countries of the UK. The pound is fucked and the UK might very well fall into another recession congratulations!

I wonder what the official job loss count will be when the dust settles, sickening absolutely sickening. Once again the old have decided the future for the young people. It would be so hilarious if it wasn't so fucking utterly depressing.
 
Get all those jobs the filthy migrants were stealing?


Oh wait...

The problem is they are getting no jobs. That´s the point.
Newsflash: Europe has a major immigration problem right now. Ignoring it and calling everyone but your mom a racist caused your country to leave the EU. Good job.
Ignorant arrogance caused one of humanity greatest projects to split. Really good job.
 

ISOM

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That's more dangerous for Hillary. Both Trump and Hillary have historically high unfavorable ratings.

Elections with high unfavorables lead to depressed turnout. So if Trump can turn out a lot of people, he can win. The electoral map is against him, but a lot of people are staying home this November in the US.

But the point I'm making is that people want to actually go out and vote against him. He rises that type of passion out of people. It's not like two candidates where you're indifferent to them.
 

Faustek

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So the interesting questions now are
1. What kind of travel requirements will be imposed on brits and vice vers europeans
2. Will banks and financial institutes move to mainland europe or will they stay in london?
3. Will the industry stay in UK or possibly silently move out due to possible tarrifs
4. What will happen with the Brits leaving outside of UK? Will they be deported due to the lack of a visa?


Etc. Etc.

Well the expats would find themselves to be illegal immigrants if the UK isn't lucky and get a deal straight away that allows them to stay in the EU countries they currently reside or in some magical Unicorn farts way still allow them free movement. Medical treatment isn't free anymore.
This of course is when they officially withdraw from the EU.

That's 1.2-1.3 million jobless people you will have to take care of.
Then again you have cirka 3 million guest workers in the UK.
 

Wvrs

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Actually can't believe it, I'm so depressed over this result. I'm in Europe now, travelling, and will be until mid-August; this is surreal as fuck, overnight I've gone from being a citizen to being an outsider.

I wanted to move to and live in France after I graduate from University. Won't be so simple now. The knowledge that I have to live in a country where more than half of the people are fucking racist, short-sighted morons is the real killer.

Oh, it's also my 21st. Worst present ever.
 

KingBroly

Banned
As it stands now, people hate Trump more so I don't get the argument you're making. Dude was almost assasinated, like come on.

If you have 2 very hated candidates, you have a higher chance at lower turnout. This result, tonight, 100% plays into Trump's hands if it causes a recession, because it'll affect the entire world.
 

NeOak

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There are pro brexiters here but GAF skews young, liberal and university educated which almost entirely voted for remain according to stats, its not a case of them being quiet its a case that there just are not that many.

Nah, they are more like drive-by posters at this point.

They don't care because they "won".

Let's see when everything goes up in price what will be their BS excuse.
 

Syder

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I see lots of people blaming Leave voters and forgetting about the Remain voters that didn't bother because it would be 'a formality'. Voter turnout in Remain locations was terrible.
 
Unless the US economy enters a recession because of this bullshit.
It would be an issue, but Trump has no ground game, almost no money, and has chronic foot in mouth syndrome. Plus he is the worst example for being a successful business man, seeing as he would be richer now if he took his initial inheritance stuck it in a bank and let it gain interest.
 
Any pro-Brexit people here want to chime in and say the good that will come from this? Y'all are being super quiet.

All we've had so far is a few drive-bys gloating. I don't think any of them are interested in explaining why the currency is tanking and why a bunch of companies are announcing that they're leaving, much less explaining how those are good things.
 
As it stands now, people hate Trump more so I don't get the argument you're making. Dude was almost assasinated, like come on.

My mother and grandmother, life-long Democrats, are only voting on the down ballot races in November as of right now. I'm still trying to convince them to vote for Clinton to avoid stupid shit like this.

They don't like Clinton and they don't like Trump so they said they're voting for neither.
 

pbsapeer

Banned
Wife crying. This is unbelievable for us. She will lose her job. We have to pick ourselves up from this.
I feel for you man. I feel myself and my wife might be in a similar position, maybe not today but certainly the short term. I wish this country wasn't so fucked.
YNWA man
 
The crazy thing is that Scotland may very likely leave the UK soonish. So getting a British citizenship would be a negative thing potentially if Scotland leaves.

I never thought id have to think about things like this.

Well, considering the fear of migrant (and therefore expats as well) I would hold off on becoming part of the nation either way, but then I don't live there. It should also not be necessary though, since a Dutch passport is basically a golden ticket in terms of global travel. So if the choice is there, I would pick that one based on the 'bug out' options rather than an arbitrary sense of nationality.
 

7threst

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Nope. It's like we're watching all the hard work Europe did to patch itself back together after WW2 unraveling before our eyes.
This is exactly how I feel. Must be horrible being a resident of the UK and seeing this happen and there's nothing you can do about it.
 

Slime

Banned
I guess the one upside is that the nutters can no longer claim that the EU is a conspiratorial Illuminati world government trying to make way for the antichrist blahblahblah and they'll never let anyone leave. Or whatever.

...nah who am I kidding they still totally will.

My condolences, UK GAF.
 
There are pro brexiters here but GAF skews young, liberal and university educated which almost entirely voted for remain according to stats, its not a case of them being quiet its a case that there just are not that many.

No. They're actually being quiet about the current fallout. They post pics of Braveheart then duck out. I'm actually curious if the current issues from this have, you know, changed the way they think.
 

Cromwell

Banned
There are pro brexiters here but GAF skews young, liberal and university educated which almost entirely voted for remain according to stats, its not a case of them being quiet its a case that there just are not that many.

It's a case of them not even being able or willing to articulate a thought out position. Every time they've been confronted here they say "I don't have to explain myself", "We're making Britain great", "The rhetoric of the other side" or something very close to that. It's remarkable how similar they sound to Trump supporters, and god knows what their real motivations are.
 
Well the expats would find themselves to be illegal immigrants if the UK isn't lucky and get a deal straight away that allows them to stay in the EU countries they currently reside or in some magical Unicorn farts way still allow them free movement. Medical treatment isn't free anymore.
This of course is when they officially withdraw from the EU.

That's 1.2-1.3 million jobless people you will have to take care of.
Then again you have cirka 3 million guest workers in the UK.

Yeah but at least they have their freedom!!
/s

It's a case of them not even being able or willing to articulate a thought out position. Every time they've been confronted here they say "I don't have to explain myself", "We're making Britain great", "The rhetoric of the other side" or something very close to that. It's remarkable how similar they sound to Trump supporters, and god knows what their real motivations are.

Calling it now:
2016, Trump becomes President of the United States of America
2017, UK votes for referendum to join the US
 
Feel bad for you guys in the UK and in the EU.

This will only embolden similar movements in other EU countries but I can only hope that effect is as limited as possible.

Can't see Scotland taking this well at all.

Could they seek independence from the UK over this?

Don't understand how people can be so uninformed about economic systems. This is bad for everyone.
 
This is a fucking nightmare. EU membership was used as an argument for Better Together to help battle nationalists in the Scottish Independence Referendum. Then we have an EU Referendum, Scotland votes unanimously to remain, but we're fucking leaving anyway.
 

Saucy_XL

Banned
Hope the EU is stronger for this. Leave the UK by the side of the road, it's what they wanted, go forward stronger than ever and more united as one.
 
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