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What is his point here, the EU should let them all in? as I guess he is saying the EU has even failed the migrants
Brexit |OT| UK Referendum on EU Membership - 23 June 2016
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What is his point here, the EU should let them all in? as I guess he is saying the EU has even failed the migrants
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State of this.
what was that about Leave not being about "scary brown people"?
NekoFever
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Bear in mind bookies hedge their bets. If they're getting a lot of Leave bets they'll make the odds of Remain better to attract business.
Surprised that Remain is still odds-on based on the polls, though.
PJV3
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EdwardTeach
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It already is.
anonymous_abc
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Well there is no doubt about that.
JonathanEx
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Oh by the way the photo is refugees on the Slovenian border, I believe.
anonymous_abc
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Why would Ireland be more attractive than say Brussels or Frankfurt?
I see little reason for the banking sector to not just take the chance and consolidate everything in Frankfurt.
I'm so ronery....
State of this.
I think its more a picture of migration than picture of "scary brown people" its also seems to be 99% men in that train THAT does concern me.
How close to racism is this?
State of this.
If these are Syrian or Iraqi refugees on the Slovenian border, like mentioned above, then stopping free EU movement won't affect those as they arent moving under the EU ruling?
It's disgusting the way our politicians act, on both sides, is utterly disgusting, I am appalled with the lot of them.
milanbaros
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No, they don't. The odds are strongly in favour of remain. Where did you get this stat?
Just checked and it is 59:41 on betfair.
QuicheFontaine
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Funnily enough, we were saying Ireland or Belgium! For UK based firms though, there are benefits to Ireland (mainly English-speaking and in the Common Travel Area). I don't really know about Frankfurt though, I don't work in a bank.
Psychotext
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For you maybe. For most others; dog-whistles everywhere.
PJV3
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Exterminieren
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Referenda often see a multiple-point swing towards the status quo when the undecideds get into the polling booth and decide to go with the safe, cautious route. The bookies are taking this into account, while the polls generally aren't
It's the reason why I still think we'll probably vote Remain- even though the polls slightly favour Leave, the lead isn't commanding enough to overturn that factor, IMO. It'll be very tight, but I need to see Leave pulling out a more commanding lead before I think otherwise.
It won't. It's just reinforcing people's prejudices. If anything it makes saying: "Get these fucking Muslims out!" more acceptable.
Eg: See trump in the US.
But they COULD!!!!
Sephiroth503
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Wonder if we'll get new Euro coins with the UK taken off the coin assuming Leave wins.
ClosingADoor
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So these guys have no idea of the concept of Schengen and don't know what the UK is not part of it, and that France, Belgium and Holland are stopping immigrants from traveling to the UK through the channel and from their ports. Got it.
Why let facts get in the way of good old fear mongering?
Anyone else feeling wobbly enough to rejig their predictions?
QuicheFontaine
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How many points lead do Leave need, in your opinion?
Future currency would most likely take that into account for artworks, yes.
Said it before I reckon leave need a 10 point lead
It's really annoying and cowardly. Others have taken the hits for you while you sat on the side and you come afterwards and blame them because you're afraid that they might not be strong enough to take more hits for you or what?
It's bad taste and wrong - but it's not racism.
In Service
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There's some discussion of the late swing percentages here:
Dodgy Website
Which has various charts. 10% seems to be the average.
Might not, Norway's been added to the current euro coins for aesthetic reasons.
Carl2291
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It's more about how the EU is incompetent. It's at breaking point, Farage wants out. They failed on the migrant crisis.
In Service
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Those pretty Norwegians.
anonymous_abc
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So my prediction is 57:43 remain.
Because I think when push comes to shove a lot of people will chicken out of voting leave.
Because I think when push comes to shove a lot of people will chicken out of voting leave.
When they focusing on 'brown muslim' immigrants rather than the majority of EU immigrants that are white?
milanbaros
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I would start to really believe they could win if the polls were consistently 55:45 or above in favour of leave.
They haven't failed you though. It's really a stupid argument. If anything you failed EU in the refugee crisis with the total lack of solidarity, from the beginning (since Italy and Greece start complaining 2-3 years ago).
PJV3
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Syria wouldn't be a bed of roses if the EU didn't exist, countries on the border would probably be on the verge of collapse instead.
It's a failure at a human level.
QuicheFontaine
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Oof, big ask at this point. Polls in the last week put the Leave lead at 6-7% tops. There would need to be further significant movement in the final week.
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Camp Freddie
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There's a reason it's not a picture of actual EU immigrants from Eastern Europe or whatever.
Because EU immigrants look no different to 'us' and it would undermine his point (they're even forming an orderly queue, they must be British!)
It's straight-up racism. The picture and tag line are a complete non-sequiteur. The only reason is to associate the EU with scary brown immigrants.
I usually maintain a cynical detatchment from bullshit in politics, but this shit is really getting me angry. In an effort to resume my normal attitude, has this Farage photo been posted yet:
https://twitter.com/PoliticalAP/status/743076129356034048/photo/1
In Service
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Well we all remember this, right:
Those BIG Norweigans.
PJV3
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Oof, big ask at this point. Polls in the last week put the Leave lead at 6-7% tops. There would need to be further significant movement in the final week.
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But it's going to be really close, I want UKIP to fuck off out of UK politics, that's the worst result for me.
Grinding on that sweet sweet Swedish wood
mehrmantrout
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Thats what i'm hoping. Its frightening we've even got to this point. If its out, i'm out of here as well, fuck living under this lot with unfettered power
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I'm going with Remain 51% Leave 49%. It's the current polling average with Don't Knows reallocated two thirds to Remain one third to Leave.
Tbh i think the whole thing could be to be swung one way or another by the Scots, the way the SNP are currently touting independence this independence that on the basis of this referendum. Might lead to some Scotish voters choosing leave to secure another independence referendum at some point rather than voting on the EU itself. SNP dominate Scotland to so it really is a risky message to use given they actually want to say with the EU.
Where would you go?
We've considered emigrating for years, we went to Australia in 2008 with one eye on moving out, but decided against it.
KillerMan91
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-Meddles in Middle-East for centuries and so is the one of the major reasons for current situation
-Takes less refuqees than many times smaller countries that had absolutely nothing to do with current situation
- Still moans and blames EU for this crisis and uses migrant crisis as one of the bullet points for leaving EU.
Oh Britain.
-Takes less refuqees than many times smaller countries that had absolutely nothing to do with current situation
- Still moans and blames EU for this crisis and uses migrant crisis as one of the bullet points for leaving EU.
Oh Britain.
Exterminieren
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10 points seems about right, yes.
As I said, it's going to be close- Remain certainly don't seem to be making up ground at the minute, and it's not necessarily beyond the realms of possibility that it happens. Some of the Chicken Licken-ing about the result is beyond premature, although if it galvanises people to get out and vote it's all for the good.
Camp Freddie
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Well we all remember this, right:
To be honest, I'd want to veto any attempt by Norway to join the EU, just so my Powerpoints on the EU regulatory process can still have a massive cock and balls in the top right.
How am I supposed to maintain my English "stiff upper lip" if I can't practice by giving a perfectly straight-faced presentation to some Japanese people that contains an obvious cock picture.
I know you can see it, Tanaka-san. And behind that perfect salaryman visage, you know I know you can see it. Lets see which of us cracks a smile first...
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