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Sony is at it again! Double secret exclusivity agreements with no marketing, no money changing hands, and no developers aware it even exists to delay Xbox games!
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oh, the series s will last the whole generation, & ms will continue support it, or they will end up dealing with the equivalent of rrod 2.0. a sizable customer base (self included) was led to believe they were buying a traditional game console, not a special, non-traditional, half-generation model. i'd be more worried about ever seeing their next traditional console, to be honest...I'm really worried about Series S lasting the whole generation at this point, and even more so I'm worried about the users that are actively using it on a day to day basis...
oh and it seems XBox don't respond to devs, why should they bother
oh and it seems XBox don't respond to devs, why should they bother
Not with 10g ram shared no you dont .Yet can turn down settings on the pc version so it runs on something far lesser.
Razer could easily sale $1000 Xbox/PCAnd just like the official Xbox console, nobody will buy the off brand version either. It offers nothing.
People really need to let go of MS as a hardware entity. It's over.
Doesn't help when it's the dataset that's too big to fit into memoryJust put the Slider from 4k to 1080/720P ...
Easy peasy
Do you think there's still a chance of having a weaker and cheaper console than the default in the next generations? It seems like an idea that hasn't really matured over time.
Is this satire? It's punching way below what was even expected by MS. To the point where they had to delete a promotional video that was lying to the public.The series S is more than capable to run these games. Of the 3 (PS5,X & S) the S is the only one who really has punched above its weight class (IMHO)...They just don't make devs like they used to
Is this satire? It's punching way below what was even expected by MS. To the point where they had to delete a promotional video that was lying to the public.
Series S is one of the worst consoles ever conceived. It was made only to piss of developers.
I know what punching above its weight means. It means it's doing better than what its "weight class" would suggest. Except it's not really.I don't think you know what punching above its weight means...
Sony and Microsoft expected their consoles to output 8k... which neither can do yet even tho they have it on the box. noone expected the incredibly bad state game graphics are in now. I certainly didn't expect that checkerboard rendering from last gen will be replaced with the visual diarrheal called FSR2/3, but here we are
I think next gen it would be even more likely than this one to have a weaker console but not a cheaper one.Do you think there's still a chance of having a weaker and cheaper console than the default in the next generations? It seems like an idea that hasn't really matured over time.
No, they did not. It was a marketing bullet point to make suckers buy the console because OMG 8K. You see many people owning 8K TVs?Sony and Microsoft expected their consoles to output 8k
I’m pretty sure he’s mocking the folks that claimed to just move the sliders during the next gen thread. Buncha morons.Doesn't help when it's the dataset that's too big to fit into memory
I mean, Series X kinda is. Also out of mind(share).I don't understand. The Series S was supposed to be putting pressure on the PS5 while the Series X would be out of sight?
That entire period from January 2020 until these consoles released were some weird alternative timeline.
Yeah, this, although PS4 basic wouldn't be able to output that, but I agree with the sentiment. $CONSOLE can('t) do $RESOLUTION/$FRAMERATE is meaningless rhetoric. One must also factor in what's being displayed on-screen while doing so.I'm sure my PS4 can support native 4k 60fps if devs code a dot to move across the screen.
I'm sure my PS4 can support native 4k 60fps if devs code a dot to move across the screen.
I know what punching above its weight means. It means it's doing better than what its "weight class" would suggest. Except it's not really.
People including MS expected this system to have "all the same great features (and they counted 60fps as a feature) just at 1440p" just by "flipping a switch". Some idiots (even in media, hi Tom, Jez and Destin) thought it will perform better than PS5 and XSX just at a lower res.
They ended up with sub 720p games, without 60fps options, and missing features like splitscreen and raytracing.
If the guys point is the optimisation from devs then that too wouldn't make sense. Any optimisation made would benefit both PS5/XSX too. You can't simultaneously say "they don't make devs like they use to" and say Series S games are optimised in comparison to PS5/XSX. Series S games are performing poorly.
How is it not a "Series S metric" when I'm refuting the idea that the Series S is punching above it's weight? Sub-720p and 30fps games are even more common on Series S.720p 60fps games are more and more common on Series X and PS5.
This is no longer a Series S metric here.
And the Series S performs even worse. Doesn't even have a 60fps mode in a lot of games. Runs sub 720p. If a game is well optimised and runs fine on Series S it runs even better on X and PS5. The S is not punching above what was expected of it was the whole point of my post.Final Fantasy 16 being a prime example of this. it looks so dogshit at 60fps that their 60fps mode basically turns itself off outside of combat because it would run at 720p at all times and unstable 60fps if they didn't program it that way. so that you don't get eye cancer. and the 30fps mode dropping down to 1080p when stressed.
Jedi Survivor in 30fps mode drops to 972p...
on a GPU that's 10x as powerful as the GPU of an Xbox One.
and this is getting more common with every new release.
noone saw this coming. these systems are being stressed beyond what anyone should think is ok
if you think that's what these consoles were designed for you're lying to yourself
1440p is now often the upscale target, not the render resolution
There's a bigger chance there won't be another xbox console at this point tbh, or at least the only option will be one that streams games and doesn't play them nativelyDo you think there's still a chance of having a weaker and cheaper console than the default in the next generations? It seems like an idea that hasn't really matured over time.
How is it not a "Series S metric" when I'm refuting the idea that the Series S is punching above it's weight? Sub-720p and 30fps games are even more common on Series S.
And the Series S performs even worse. Doesn't even have a 60fps mode in a lot of games. Runs sub 720p. If a game is well optimised and runs fine on Series S it runs even better on X and PS5. The S is not punching above what was expected of it was the whole point of my post.
Ahhh, so he's admitting he's a clueless fuck that doesn't know anything about hardware and had that info relay to him. Anyone with a god damn brain cell knew that the series s wasn't going to do 1440p 120fps. Even ms knew this and took it off their ad.
I had 1, it played every game I needed it to. It's a great lil box for what's inside of itIs this satire? It's punching way below what was even expected by MS. To the point where they had to delete a promotional video that was lying to the public.
I'm really worried about Series S lasting the whole generation at this point, and even more so I'm worried about the users that are actively using it on a day to day basis.
Funny that you just mentioned this about Dune: Awakening as I was just reading about another game delay on Xbox as well, it was about Enotria: The Last Song.
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But then again here's a quick reminder about the discussion we been having since 2020:
the problem is the memory not the gpuJust target 720p at 25fps for Series S,
problem solved!
"it played every game I needed it to" isn't exactly a high bar. Nobody is saying games that released on it can't be played at all. Just that often they run poorly especially in comparison to the XSX/PS5 version.I had 1, it played every game I needed it to. It's a great lil box for what's inside of it
I was just being sillythe problem is the memory not the gpu