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Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons |OT| We are One (PC and PSN, Out now)
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A great moment illustrating that is when you're
in front of that rock that has 2 grab points so you both could get up together. Now you just need one.
Ooh me too! What a fantastic game that was.
Didn't have any problems with the 360 either.
fi1ip
Member
I agree with this, worst part of the game.
But overall this game is the biggest surprise of the year and for me even a GOTY candidate.
Just finished this a couple of hours ago. I honestly feel like this game out-Journeyed Journey. Though not the technical marvel Journey was, the quest was at least equally memorable, simarly grand in scope, and I'd say even more heartfelt given how immediately relatable the protagonists were. It's spectacularly beautiful in many areas and I found the puzzles hit a wonderful balance between forcing you to think yet never becoming frustrating. My single story-related qualm
Still loved practically every minute of the game. As others have said, well worth the asking price. Played on 360 and had no major visual quirks or technical hiccups.
No doubt, this scene shocked the hell out of me, particularly because of
was with the spider villian, namely that she came out of nowhere with (almost) no foreshadowing and played far too important a role for her quick reveal and subsequent dispatch. I had no issues with the "ghosts" because they're handled with sufficient grace as to be interpreted as merely figments of the younger brother's imagintion. In fact, without them the story would be almost unbearably grim. Hell, the ending was heart wrenching, yet I applaud that they had the courage to carry it through as it felt genuine.
No doubt, this scene shocked the hell out of me, particularly because of
my gut response to help the guy. There was a real urgency to that moment. Though I only played through it once, I take it that it's quite possible for the guy to die if you don't act quickly enough. Quite impactful.
GrumpyOutlander
Member
I thought the fact that she was being sacrificed by the crazy people was foreshadowing enough. She was the damsel in distress, but I knew something was up when she was flirting with the older brother.
That's true, and the cave paintings also hinted at something of the sort along with her agility, as others have said. I guess I just feel as though if we'd anticipated that there was an actual spider villian before then, maybe by seeing shadows or seeing it snatch someone in the distance, the transformation wouldn't have seemed so out of left field. It's a small quibble and I do admit it wasn't completely out of the blue, but it's the one story element I felt could have been handled slightly more elegantly.
nckillthegrimace
Member
Someone should really make a Brothers spoiler thread. The story is interesting enough that I think one is warranted, and having to wade through black bars must be annoying for people who haven't finished the game yet.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Re: your story related qualm.
Before you get down to where the guys are chanting in front of the tied up woman, you can see cave paintings depicting humans fighting spider creatures. I think that's adequate (and beautifully subtle) foreshadowing of the spider situation.
The one qualm I have with the game was the lead vocal in the main theme. I found it quite grating and mixed too high some of the time. It especially didn't help when that tune kicked in during the emotional peak of the game.
Overall, it's a really great achievement in the simple artsy adventure genre.
SiegfriedFM
Member
One thing that I thought would get exposed was
the invisible snow giant. Like, what was it really? Did it freeze that army of guys? What happened? Then again, it took (almost) the attention away from how superhumanly agile and strong the girl was, so maybe it was designed to just be a red herring.
wow... what a game, great emotional joy-ride would be an way to describe it, how can something so visually stunning be so equally moving.
Do not click unless completed!!! Major spoilers.
Prob my most favorite indie game, very refreshing to try something different. Recommended, a "tiny" bit slow for the first hour, but it really takes off. Great adventure, once you complete it you will know why.
Do not click unless completed!!! Major spoilers.
Those big giants where impressive, the flowing rivers of blood and the whales.
Damn that spider woman, she lured me there and look what happened!
- Was a really nice touch with the owl bird appearing at the end, I thought it was dead? It must have been exhausted. Also I wonder if the Brothers grave was moved or if it was just a representation of it, I guess that all down to your imagination, it was a big smile moment when you where blessed by the brothers presence!! running home, great scenery.
Damn that spider woman, she lured me there and look what happened!
- Was a really nice touch with the owl bird appearing at the end, I thought it was dead? It must have been exhausted. Also I wonder if the Brothers grave was moved or if it was just a representation of it, I guess that all down to your imagination, it was a big smile moment when you where blessed by the brothers presence!! running home, great scenery.Prob my most favorite indie game, very refreshing to try something different. Recommended, a "tiny" bit slow for the first hour, but it really takes off. Great adventure, once you complete it you will know why.
I just reckon it's as simple as
invisible creatures being very cheap to animate
Aww, how can anyone hate on kulning. Though I guess awareness of this style of singing is very limited outside Sweden.
I was actually a tad disappointed that it wasn't even higher pitched.
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I personally really enjoyed this game (definitely a lot more than you did judging by your post), but Im also kind of falling in the camp of not understanding the GOTY comments (especially one mr Brad Shoemaker's extreme praise on the giant bombcast)
I like the feeling of adventure and the fairy tale bleakness to the narrative but... I kind of got the similar breezy but adventurous feeling out of Prince of Persia 2008 which is a far more divisive title. I also didnt like the third chapter at all (basically all of the sequences are built around nearly completing a puzzle but some scripted sequence happens before you do, which isnt satisfying at all) and felt the ending dragged too much (although the gameplay twist at the end was emotionally and mechanically great)
My favorite bit was after the hang glider crash where you use the rope. I dunno like I said, I dug the game a lot but after all the praise I saw i was left with a "Huh, that was it?" vibe.
valentine71
Banned
I recently got this on PSN. Played for 15-20 minutes but i didn't like the controls and the stillness of the game. Should i keep playing? Does it worth it? Seriously i can use some help.
Garrett 2U
Member
This game was like nothing I've played before.
So enjoyable and beautiful.
So enjoyable and beautiful.
Yes, keep playing
Maybe I've just played too many games. Before even booting it up I suspected
one of the brothers would die, that's just how these types of video games play out these days.
the spider woman leapt over the gap in the snow town I knew something was up and there was a reason those villagers had her chained up.
Since the narrative didn't do anything for me and the gameplay isn't anything to write home about I was left pretty underwhelmed.
Totally agree. I tried it this way too, with my partner taking control of the older brother after watching me struggle alone with the controls in the beginning of the game (and also realizing that he has a huge backlog of his own so this would probably be his only shot to play this game for a while). For the ending
It was a smart decision to have the younger brother as the right side of the controller, story-related emotions aside I thought I would feel more stability once I had the controller back in both hands. What I got was the opposite. I instinctively wanted to use that left side of the controller, so to suddenly have it physically back but initially unresponsive felt like your sister described, carrying a dead limb.
Apparently some guy called TotalBiscuit posted a video on Youtube praising Brothers and now the game has jumped from being 70th-ish on Steam to being the 6th best selling game! I'm happy to see some well-deserved success for Brothers, but who is this guy and how can he have so much sway over what people buy?
ashecitism
Member
He's basically a game pundit, he commentates SC2 matches and does early impressions of games, coverages of cons. He's PC oriented and been getting more and more followers. Not exactly liked though, especially on this site, lol. But for reasons, I still like his WTF though.
I thought
my game had glitched or something because I keep trying to move forward. Hitting the left trigger and having that moment was fantastic.
So yeah, I agree.
Laurentius
Member
Plenty of people like him. He's just cynical, speaks his mind, and sometimes says inflammatory things. I don't always agree with what he says, but I know he's always being honest about it, which means I can trust his recommendations.
Didn't know anything about this game before his video today, definitely thinking of grabbing it now.
Also just finished on PS3 this weekend. There were some slight performance issues as others mentioned. The game felt about the right length and while the primary narrative was alright, I really enjoyed the untold stories in this game the most, such as
They really made the world feel "lived in".
I actually really liked this sequence. As far as believability, I had more concerns with
As far as gameplay the only section that bothered me was early-ish on, when you meet
the troll people working deep in the mountains as you pass by, the giant's tower and later the massacre nearby, and the town of people who were attacked by the snow monster.
I actually really liked this sequence. As far as believability, I had more concerns with
the ecosystem. Your glider is hit by birds, but there also birds three times the size of your character, able to support your weight flying? Small trees but also giants with wood planks in the homes that are easily three magnitudes larger? I just chalked it up to magic. The physics of a heavy brother failing to yank down a small one also surprised me, just not as much. I really wish they had used the rope during a boss fight though, something akin to AT-ATs in the Empire Strikes Back.
As far as gameplay the only section that bothered me was early-ish on, when you meet
that troll. He just drags the game down. Every puzzle in that section boils down to "oh! Better wait for that slow troll to eventually get here." No thought required and not interesting. I was really worried he was going to be following me around for the whole game.
Yeah, I would say so. If after an hour you are still unsold, then stop. The first half an hour just felt like Fable with weird controls to me, and is basically there to help you learn controls and establish expectations.
Yeah this confused me as well.
I thought the original owl bird had blood all over it? And its death is the only reason given for why they don't fly all the way to the tree. I assumed this owl bird was it's mate or something. Or maybe there's some alternate interpretation?
I actually found that and
somehow still missed the cave paintings. I was looking at the guys dancing around. Maybe I should have gone in a second time but they practically push you out with the boat turned 180. My only foreshadowing was the jump in the snow town, which I had assumed was either a gameplay glitch or lazy storytelling. That being said, I was fine with the lack of foreshadowing, and I liked the surprise. It felt consistent with what the characters were going through, rather than shouting at the screen the whole time "Don't follow her! She's evil!" I also liked the false foreshadowing with one brother choking the other during the dream scene.
They weren't lying when they said, "Brothers is mostly an experience...It's not so much about challenging you as a player."
Just wish the puzzles, if you can call them that, were a bit more satisfying and not as straightforward.
Loved the second darker half of the game.
Just wish the puzzles, if you can call them that, were a bit more satisfying and not as straightforward.
The abominable snowman boss was incredibly anti-climactic considering how potentially deadly they made him seem.
Loved the second darker half of the game.
Holding up the suicidal guy and launching the giant arrow were cool moments.
Yes, this is what I will ultimately remember Brothers for.
Helping the hangman
microtubule
Member
Glad to hear it's on the Steam top ten sellers list.
Just finished the game, 3 hrs total. I missed a few achievements so I will for sure make a return trip through the game. I think it could have used another 1-2 hours but that is a testament to it's gameplay.
Just finished the game, 3 hrs total. I missed a few achievements so I will for sure make a return trip through the game. I think it could have used another 1-2 hours but that is a testament to it's gameplay.
HueyFreeman
Banned
Crazy too that
you can fail at that. I did my first time, and then died on the cliff, only to replay it and succeed.
Me too - restarted from last checkpoint as soon as I could.
I expected some kind of videogame-y reward for helping him. But he just sat there and cried.
Ah, but then you can
Go into the ruins of his house and bring back a memento of his family, after which he gets his shit together and gives them a proper burial
Just completed it.
Surprising in every way possible, especially some of the themes featured in the game and the controls towards the end. Liked that it wasnt just cliche wish-wash videogame fantasy setting too- the game was full of visual awe.
Defo a candidate for GOTY.
Surprising in every way possible, especially some of the themes featured in the game and the controls towards the end. Liked that it wasnt just cliche wish-wash videogame fantasy setting too- the game was full of visual awe.
Defo a candidate for GOTY.
Wow really glad I played this game.
Don't read on unless you've finished!
One of those games were I wish I could forget everything and play again, well everything except how to control the brothers decently.
Don't read on unless you've finished!
When you regain control of the younger brother back at town, I got to the cliff and immediately went to the right rock as usual and obviously missed the jump ;_; then finding out how to swim/get up the broken ladder by yourself. Shit... like a one two punch to my feels.
Some areas gave me a huge smile though, specifically the goat riding section and the giant turtle & its young area. Also the dead giant area is probably one of my favourite settings in a video game ever.
Some areas gave me a huge smile though, specifically the goat riding section and the giant turtle & its young area. Also the dead giant area is probably one of my favourite settings in a video game ever.
One of those games were I wish I could forget everything and play again, well everything except how to control the brothers decently.
WeakerYouth
Neo Member
Wow, I somehow completely forgot about this game coming out last week (PSN). Glad it's getting a lot of positive reactions on here, especially with the story. 3-4 hours of gameplay will be perfect to sneak this in before GTAV for me now.
Wow. I might write something a little longer about the game once it's settled but that was incredible. Regardless of the store - it was some of the most impressive camera work I've seen in any game since Uncharted 2.
One of the best games I've played this year.
When it was just the one brother I automatically assumed it would swap to the left stick. When it didn't it felt like.. I don't know, felt like I had half a body not working.
One of the best games I've played this year.
Is there any way to get a completed save file for this game? My computer was having problems and it crashed, and I had to restore to an earlier point. But this deleted my whole Brothers save, to the point I can't even select chapters. I had started another game with my fiancee and got up to that
, and she is definitely not the type who will replay the game and I do not feel like playing through another hour or two of this whole stuff again... I've already done it too many times in a row...
flying part
Ah, but then you can, which at least draws a line under that little scene. Very touchingGo into the ruins of his house and bring back a memento of his family, after which he gets his shit together and gives them a proper burial
Oh damn... I missed that one. Thanks for pointing it out!
Funny, this is something I enjoyed most. Loved starting the game up and waiting for that vocal refrain to come on before I continued my game. I thought it was beautiful.
In my 30+ years of playing games, this is the first one that actually made me shed tears. Of course, I am getting more emotional the older I get. Having kids will do that to you.
Just finished it. (PC version but playing on my Tv here). Overall it felt like a really good experience. I really hesitate to call it a great game though. For reference, I didn't really feel that way about the walking dead for example which I loved.
It's worth playing just for the great art and music. In fact, that was the meat of the game for me. It felt like one of those good tales I'd read as a kid except in video game form which is definitely a testament of how well they nailed this part of the game.
I did feel frustrated though by the fact that the game's extremely interesting concept and mechanics weren't used much more than in very simple and straightforward puzzles. Also, it felt as though the "levels" were designed more as excuses to show as much of the gorgeous game world under different angles, which does make sense in a game like this I guess, rather than having the world designed around the puzzles. This part of the game was definitely a let down for me which makes me hesitate to call it great.
The story though was really good. Very simple, but touching. The play on the game's mechanics at the end was very clever and is definitely one of those moments that make this game pretty unique.
Overall this was a pretty nice albeit not amazing game for me, it's pretty short so I encourage everybody to try it.
It's worth playing just for the great art and music. In fact, that was the meat of the game for me. It felt like one of those good tales I'd read as a kid except in video game form which is definitely a testament of how well they nailed this part of the game.
I did feel frustrated though by the fact that the game's extremely interesting concept and mechanics weren't used much more than in very simple and straightforward puzzles. Also, it felt as though the "levels" were designed more as excuses to show as much of the gorgeous game world under different angles, which does make sense in a game like this I guess, rather than having the world designed around the puzzles. This part of the game was definitely a let down for me which makes me hesitate to call it great.
The story though was really good. Very simple, but touching. The play on the game's mechanics at the end was very clever and is definitely one of those moments that make this game pretty unique.
Overall this was a pretty nice albeit not amazing game for me, it's pretty short so I encourage everybody to try it.