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Bulletstorm "Epic Edition" (the 360 version) ships with Gears of War 3 BETA

Pooya

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UPDATE:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6285591.html

GameSpot: Now this is something that's never been done before--a beta between publishers. I mean there was the Halo 3 beta in Crackdown and the Halo: Reach beta with Halo: ODST, but those were all released by Microsoft Game Studios. How did this come about?

Mike Capps: Well that was part of the genesis of the idea. Crackdown worked really well to expose Halo folks to a new IP that was a lot of fun. We don't ship two games like this very often, and they're so close to each other it was kind of an obvious opportunity to do something cool for Epic fans. We started talking with EA and Microsoft, and obviously those guys have been working together forever doing lots of great game promotions. So it was kind of cool how everyone put aside the "my game, your game" stuff and let us get Epic fans excited about both titles.

Lots of brainstorming later, we were in a good spot. We're gonna test that the game works internationally, with dedicated servers all over the world. A game launch is a really good way to do that, since Bulletstorm will be selling everywhere, so the timing's perfect.

GS: Have you set a start date for the beta yet?

MC: We've been saying spring. My guess is it will be sometime around April or so. It's going to be early enough so it really impacts Gears [of War 3's] development, but we want to make sure everyone has the chance to play Bulletstorm before they jump right into the beta.

Gears of War 3's multiplayer will be tested by the public at length.

GS: You mentioned April--that was the original launch window for Gears of War 3 itself. Why did it get pushed back so far?

MC: Well the thing I liked about April is that's when Gears fans expected to play Gears 3. This way, they can still do that. Microsoft approached us about moving the game back to September. Now normally you hear stories about evil publishers trying to convince the developer to ship it early. Whenever we'd have date conversations, we'd say, "Oh the game has got to be good, it's got to be done when we ship it!" That part of the industry, for us, is now completely gone. Now we say, "If we can do this in September, October, November, we can do something amazing like Halo: Reach." That had huge promotion that got a lot of people behind it and got huge attention at retail. So a couple extra months was fine by us--it'll just make the game better. They thought it would be better for them, so we played along.

GS: This is the first public beta for a Gears of War game. What prompted it?

MC: We've kind of actually always done betas. Unreal Tournament had betas to test it out before the main launch, and we actually did one for unreal championship 2 for the Xbox. But it's actually a lot of work to do a beta on consoles, because you still have to go through all of the certification process, so it adds a lot of time to the schedule. To take what you have, chop off a bunch of it, and cert it--it adds a month or more to your schedule. Generally, we've not seen that as a good trade-off. But at this point, with those extra couple months it gave us the ability to do it.

Also, I think everybody knows we had some multiplayer stability issues with Gears 2 multiplayer out of the box. While we fixed those later, the opportunity to be really, really sure that our new dedicated server infrastructure is going to be operational on day one with Gears 3 was totally worth the time to make the beta.

GS: Now the Epic Edition of Bulletstorm is limited to the Xbox 360 edition of the game. Are you planning extra bonuses or special editions for the PlayStation 3 and PC versions of the game?

MC: We'll be announcing something early next year.

GS: How limited will the Epic edition be, quantity-wise?

MC: This really is a limited edition. Like Gears of War 2's limited edition, it will be gone in the first week or so. The surest way to get time in the beta is to pre-order it. We won't have pallets of these sitting around months later. We want it to be limited as a sort of present to our hardcore fans.

GS: If you preordered the game, do you automatically get the Epic Edition?

MC: Since it's the same price, it's our intention is to fulfill all preorders which have already gone in with Epic Editions. We should double-check and make sure. We just put this plan together a week ago, so we have to check with the retail guys and make sure.


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Epic Games and EA Announce ‘Bulletstorm Epic Edition’ With Exclusive Early Access to Gears of War 3 Beta

REDWOOD CITY, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--People Can Fly, Epic Games, Electronic Arts Inc. (NASDAQ:ERTS) and Microsoft Game Studios today announced the “Epic Edition” of Bulletstorm™, the highly anticipated new action shooter from the makers of the award-winning Unreal Tournament and Gears of War series of games. In this unique promotion, Epic Games and EA are blowing out the launch of Bulletstorm with access to the public beta for Gears of War 3, the spectacular conclusion to one of the most memorable and celebrated sagas in video games. Players that purchase the Epic Edition are guaranteed early access to the Gears of War 3 beta*. Pre-order now to reserve a copy of the Epic Edition which will be available on Feb. 22, 2011 for MSRP $59.99, only for the Xbox 360® video game and entertainment system, while supplies last.

“With these two highly anticipated triple-A experiences comes a unique opportunity to do something to really excite players, and that’s what we intend to accomplish with the support of Microsoft Game Studios and EA. This is for the shooter fans.”

“Epic is poised to break new ground in 2011 with Gears of War 3 and Bulletstorm,” said Dr. Michael Capps, president of Epic Games. “With these two highly anticipated triple-A experiences comes a unique opportunity to do something to really excite players, and that’s what we intend to accomplish with the support of Microsoft Game Studios and EA. This is for the shooter fans.”

In addition to access to the beta, the Epic Edition gives players bonus in-game Bulletstorm content when playing online, including 25,000 experience points, visual upgrades for their iconic leash, deadly Peace Maker Carbine, boots and armor. With this unique gear, gamers can kill with skill in style. Bulletstorm’s insane Anarchy four-player online cooperative mode takes full advantage of the game’s unique skillshot gameplay and unlock/upgrade weapon system to deliver the best possible multiplayer experience within the Bulletstorm world. The combination of Bulletstorm’s multiplayer gameplay and skillshot system creates a frantic and frenzied experience setting itself apart from the multiplayer experiences in traditional shooter games
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
World wide or just the states?
 
I think Bulletstorm looks awesome. Throwing in a beta like this is a way to draw the mainstream to the game. Not a hint at it's quality. But if it's a great game in itself, and then you throw a Gears beta into it...Now people outside of NeoGAF are looking at it. Plan on picking this up. I had no idea it was coming out in February. Good news.
 

LiK

Member
The beta ain't a factor for me on buying this. I'll still wait for reviews and impressions first.
 

EYEL1NER

Member
Meh, I don't play mulitplayer enough to care about any of the additional things in there. The last couple betas I had access to, I didn't try. And bonus items that are only good in mulitplayer don't interest me in the least, except in that they would fetch a good price on eBay.
If there was some awesome additional campaign level or something like that, I'd jump on it, but I'll probably just get it with whatever deal Kmart runs.
 

BobsRevenge

I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
Wait... if you're into Gears... why wouldn't you be into Bulletstorm? It looks like a more fun version of that game, except in an FPS.
 

FrankT

Member
Note it says exclusive early access. So should we take that as a couple of weeks early for Bulletstorm owners then open to all?

BobsRevenge said:
Wait... if you're into Gears... why wouldn't you be into Bulletstorm? It looks like a more fun version of that game, except in an FPS.

This is true though still untested here. Reviews and whatnot should provide a little more indication either way.

REMEMBER CITADEL said:
It's weird seeing EA promoting Gears of War.

Not that surprising. Anything to give a title a boost why not.
 
BobsRevenge said:
Wait... if you're into Gears... why wouldn't you be into Bulletstorm? It looks like a more fun version of that game, except in an FPS.

It looks nothing like Gears. Well, I suppose you walk and shoot in both games.
 
BobsRevenge said:
Wait... if you're into Gears... why wouldn't you be into Bulletstorm? It looks like a more fun version of that game, except in an FPS.
You could also be into the Painkiller games, too. To me, everything shown for Bulletstorm looks positively over-the-top awesome...like an 80s action flick transformed into an FPS.
 

BobsRevenge

I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
REMEMBER CITADEL said:
It looks nothing like Gears. Well, I suppose you walk and shoot in both games.
And use cover, and shoot aliens. I mean. What is Gears? Hiding behind cover and shooting aliens. Bulletstorm has the cover, it has the aliens, except it actually makes it more fun to kill everything. If you're a fan of Gears, I don't see what isn't to like about this.

edit: Yeah, I definitely come from a Painkiller background. That's why I'm picking it up. But it basically looks like Painkiller mixed with Gears, and some polished up Necrovision combo action.
 

LiK

Member
MightyHedgehog said:
You could also be into the Painkiller games, too. To me, everything shown for Bulletstorm looks positively over-the-top awesome...like an 80s action flick transformed into an FPS.
The box art seems to convey that.
 

duckroll

Member
I love Gears of War. I'll definitely be replacing my 360 before Gears3 hits, just to play it. Don't care about Bulletstorm at all though. Doesn't look appealing one bit.
 

FrankT

Member
duckroll said:
I love Gears of War. I'll definitely be replacing my 360 before Gears3 hits, just to play it. Don't care about Bulletstorm at all though. Doesn't look appealing one bit.

Really? Though it looked a bit promising if not a bit cheeky. Must hold expectations in check.
 

duckroll

Member
Jtyettis said:
Really? Though it looked a bit promising if not a bit cheeky. Must hold expectations in check.

I'm not saying it's a bad game mind you. I think it looks like it could be a lot of fun for people who are into it, based on the gameplay so far. It just isn't appealing to me. So I'm pointing out that it's certainly possible for people to be big fans of Gears and to not care for this game. Which is why trying to push it harder with a Gears 3 beta does make sense, even if it's a bit of a bitch move if someone wants the beta but not the game. :lol
 
duckroll said:
I love Gears of War. I'll definitely be replacing my 360 before Gears3 hits, just to play it. Don't care about Bulletstorm at all though. Doesn't look appealing one bit.

Too low-brow compared to Gears or something? :p

I think it looks fun and I'll probably grab it during next year's Steam Holiday sale or something.
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
at first i thought this was some garbage limited edition

then i realized that the "epic" edition just means the 360 version
 

FrankT

Member
duckroll said:
I'm not saying it's a bad game mind you. I think it looks like it could be a lot of fun for people who are into it, based on the gameplay so far. It just isn't appealing to me. So I'm pointing out that it's certainly possible for people to be big fans of Gears and to not care for this game. Which is why trying to push it harder with a Gears 3 beta does make sense, even if it's a bit of a bitch move if someone wants the beta but not the game. :lol

Well and perhaps I'm reading too much into the exclusive early access part, but it sounds like the beta will eventually be open to a wider audience somehow.
 
szaromir said:
THey want to boost preorders, pretty simple.
I get that, but it seems pretty rare to get more than beta access for a pre-order or early run copy without paying, at least, a tenner on top of the standard pricing. I mean, you're getting these other models and bonus assets that normally run a few bucks in the marketplace post-release. Nothing earth-shattering, but it's nice to see not everything being pieced off as DLC.
 

duckroll

Member
Pai Pai Master said:
Too low-brow compared to Gears or something? :p

I think it looks fun and I'll probably grab it during next year's Steam Holiday sale or something.

Oh I wouldn't mind getting it at all if it's really cheap on Steam eventually, I'm just not interested in getting excited for it or paying full price to play it right now. It has nothing to do with it being low-brow, I love lots of low-brow stuff. I just don't find what I've seen so far looking like something I would enjoy playing for long. I like the set pieces and the on-rails sort of momentum that Gears offers, along with the really high production values. Bulletstorm seems more like a fuck-around shooter, and if I wanted to play a fuck-around shooter, I would just boot up EDF2.
 

Pooya

Member
Stumpokapow said:
at first i thought this was some garbage limited edition

then i realized that the "epic" edition just means the 360 version
It's same price but looks like it's a limited offer, notice the "while supplies last" part.
Pre-order now to reserve a copy of the Epic Edition which will be available on Feb. 22, 2011 for MSRP $59.99, only for the Xbox 360® video game and entertainment system, while supplies last.
 

Thunderbear

Mawio Gawaxy iz da Wheeson hee pways games
Is this game written for 13-14 year olds who still think words like "fuck" and "dildo" are awesome and cool? I want to play the game but the dialogue is the most annoying thing about the game. I hope there's an option to mute the dialogue.

I am referring to the dumbest marketing video I've seen in a while posted on Gametrailers. How hard is it to write "offensive" dialogue? I don't find it offensive, just for a lack of a better word. I just find it immature and I have little respect for people who talk like the characters in this game. It's just so overdone. A "fuck" every once in a while is fine, but they are going out of their way to try to make it a controversial/"fun" aspect of the game.

Fuck that shit mother-fucking-tossing-salad-loving barnyard-humping developers. I want this stuff metaphorically to go the way like the person in the Mr Hands video.

Am I making my point?
 
duckroll said:
Bulletstorm seems more like a fuck-around shooter, and if I wanted to play a fuck-around shooter, I would just boot up EDF2.
Define 'fuck around shooter'. I'm sure you can in this game, but it really looks like a fertile playground for score attack-type shooting to me.
 

LiK

Member
Thunderbear said:
Is this game written for 13-14 year olds who still think words like "fuck" and "dildo" are awesome and cool? I want to play the game but the dialogue is the most annoying thing about the game. I hope there's an option to mute the dialogue.

I am referring to the dumbest marketing video I've seen in a while posted on Gametrailers. How hard is it to write "offensive" dialogue? I don't find it offensive, just for a lack of a better word. I just find it immature and I have little respect for people who talk like the characters in this game. It's just so overdone. A "fuck" every once in a while is fine, but they are going out of their way to try to make it a controversial/"fun" aspect of the game.

Fuck that shit mother-fucking-tossing-salad-loving barnyard-humping developers.
So you're offended by the dumb dialogue more-so than the ridiculous over the top violence?
 

duckroll

Member
MightyHedgehog said:
Define 'fuck around shooter'. I'm sure you can in this game, but it really looks like a fertile playground for score attack-type shooting to me.

Fuck around shooters are shooters focused on gameplay mechanics revolving around interesting weapons, a degree of freedom in how you tackle each encounter or obstacle, and sometimes also score/kill driven. The opposite would be what I consider event shooters, which are more focused on a more scripted and linear experience, with a lot of focus on level design, set pieces, and wow moments.
 

-PXG-

Member
At first I was like "Oh FUCK no!!!!" but then I saw that's it's $60. Alright, I might bite. However, I'm not a fan of this kind of business practice. I was leaning towards getting Bulletstorm anyway, but if I'm guaranteed to get into the Gears 3 beta, without a higher price of admission, I guess I'll play ball. At the time, I honestly wanted Crackdown for itself. The Halo 3 beta was just a nice bonus. But please, don't do some switheroo bullshit and raise the price or decide not to include the code. Don't pull sneaky shit like that. Seriously though, there better be other ways to get into the beta.

It's complete, utter horse shit that they compromise and limit the amount of potential feedback and improvement they could get from having a beta test. It seems counterintuitive to call something a PUBLIC beta, when the means of getting access are diffcult and extremely limited. Yeah, I know they're in business to make money, but it's absurd that their first priority is to try and make you buy more of their crap, instead of testing and advertising a product that is in development. And while I'm at it, forget having to sign up on various gaming websites. Fuck them. I'm not giving them the ad revenue for their shitty ass site for the slim chance of obtaining a code, so that later, they can they can fill my inbox with spam. To Hell with any kind of Twitter Easter egg hunts too. All of them can kiss my ass.

Come on, just allow as many people as possible to test your fucking game. Betas are designed for quality assurance, not soley for advertising and exploitation. I mean, why allow people to play unfinished code to help promote your game in the first place? Sure, most people who play betas don't give the deveoplers any feedback. However, don't forget that word of mouth is a powerful and very effective way to spread information. Assuming your game is good, those people will tell their friends, family, peers and co-workers, how great it is and how they should buy it when it comes out.

I mean, why does this industry continue to make the same dumbass decisions it makes? Who the fuck is running these companies? It's like they want to piss people off and do everything possible to make me refuse to give them my money. They're on some other shit, I'm telling you...
 
duckroll said:
Fuck around shooters are shooters focused on gameplay mechanics revolving around interesting weapons, a degree of freedom in how you tackle each encounter or obstacle, and sometimes also score/kill driven. The opposite would be what I consider event shooters, which are more focused on a more scripted and linear experience, with a lot of focus on level design, set pieces, and wow moments.
I dunno, man. BS looks like all of the above to me. That kitchen sink-like impression is actually what's drawing me to it aside from its gameplay lineage, anyway.
 

Karram

Member
Well I guess I'll be buying a copy of Bulletstorm now. Mission Accomplished Epic.

EDIT: where can I pre-order ? I can't find the Epic edition on Amazon.
 
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