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Bush before war: "We're not going to have any casualties."

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Socreges

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SolidSnakex said:
Did anyone see the Daily Show last night.

Bush at rally:

"We're not going to have an all volunteer war!"

*wonders why there's no applause then looks up into the crowd"

"Oh we're going going to have an all volunteer war!"
Let me do it justice, if you don't mind.


"We're not going to have an all volunteer war!"

*mumbles from crowd*

"Oh, we ARE going to have an all volunteer war!"

*laughter*

"Let me restate that. We are NOT going to have a draft!"

*cheers*


...fucking lemmings.
 

maharg

idspispopd
Phoenix said:
Why, because you think there aren't people in the US that feel this way?

Clearly, if there are, they aren't real americans. Selfishness is the only valid motivation.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
Socreges said:
Let me do it justice, if you don't mind.


"We're not going to have an all volunteer war!"

*mumbles from crowd*

"Oh, we ARE going to have an all volunteer war!"

*laughter*

"Let me restate that. We are NOT going to have a draft!"

*cheers*


...fucking lemmings.
Good fucking jesus, is that really how it went?
 

VitaBone

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Phoenix said:
Why, because you think there aren't people in the US that feel this way?
No, because anyone outside the US can't think for themselves for 2 seconds. Why do you think their is communism?
 

Caddle

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I think you have that wrong. It's people in the US who can't think for themselves. They let the media and party affiliation do the thinking for them. Why do you think they isn't much outrage from the people over recent events. In fact everywhere else last year was major protest in every country except the United States.
 
EAU CLAIRE, Wisconsin (CNN) -- A White House spokesman denied Wednesday that President Bush told Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson that he did not expect casualties from the invasion of Iraq.

"The president never made such a comment," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said.

Senior Bush campaign adviser Karen Hughes, a longtime confidant of the president, said she was "certain" Bush would not have said anything like that to Robertson.

"Perhaps he misunderstood, but I've never heard the president say any such thing," Hughes said on CNN's "Inside Politics."

Robertson, an ardent Bush supporter, told CNN in an interview Tuesday night that he urged the president to prepare the American people for the prospect of casualties before launching the war in March 2003.

Robertson said Bush told him, " 'Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties.' "

More than 1,100 American troops have been killed in Iraq since the invasion, most of them battling an insurgency that followed the overthrow of Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.

Sen. John Kerry, Bush's Democratic challenger, quickly seized on Robertson's account.

Kerry's campaign issued a statement Wednesday challenging Bush to say whether the "700 Club" founder and 1988 GOP presidential candidate was telling the truth.

"We believe President Bush should get the benefit of the doubt here," Kerry spokesman Mike McCurry said in a news release.

"But he needs to come forward and answer a very simple question: Is Pat Robertson telling the truth when he said you didn't think there'd be any casualties, or is Pat Robertson lying?"

McClellan said Bush did meet with Robertson in Nashville before the invasion, as Robertson recounted. But McClellan said Bush always has recognized that war "requires sacrifice" and that there would be American casualties.

In a statement issued Wednesday afternoon, Robertson restated his "100 percent" support for Bush's re-election and said he began and ended his CNN interview "with my warm endorsement and praise of President Bush." But he did not back away from his comments.

"I emphatically stated that, 'I believe 'the blessing of heaven is upon him,' and I am persuaded that he will win this election and prevail on the war against terror in order to keep America safe from her avowed enemies," Robertson said.

In his CNN interview, the religious leader described Bush on the eve of the invasion as "the most self-assured man I've ever met in my life."

"You remember Mark Twain said, 'He looks like a contented Christian with four aces.' I mean he was just sitting there like, 'I'm on top of the world,' " Robertson said on CNN's "Paula Zahn Now."

"And I warned him about this war. I had deep misgivings about this war, deep misgivings. And I was trying to say, 'Mr. President, you had better prepare the American people for casualties.' "

He said that's when the president told him he did not expect casualties from the invasion.

In the interview, Robertson also said he wishes Bush would admit to mistakes made.

"I mean, the Lord told me it was going to be A, a disaster, and B, messy," Robertson said. "I warned him about casualties."

Asked why he thought Bush has refused to admit to mistakes on Iraq, Robertson said, "I don't know this politics game. You know, you can never say you were wrong because the opposition grabs onto it: 'See, he admitted he screwed up.' "

Even as Robertson criticized Bush for downplaying the potential dangers of the Iraq war, he heaped praise on Bush, saying he believes the president will win the election.

"Even if he stumbles and messes up -- and he's had his share of stumbles and gaffes -- I just think God's blessing is on him," Robertson said.

CNN's John King contributed to this report.


What does this mean? Is the Bush White House calling Pat Robertson a liar? Or is Pat Robertson calling Bush a liar? Two men enter, one man falls.
 

Che

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VitaBone said:
No, because anyone outside the US can't think for themselves for 2 seconds. Why do you think their is communism?

:lol

I nominate this for the stupidest post EVAR!
 
Tommie Hu$tle said:
What does this mean? Is the Bush White House calling Pat Robertson a liar? Or is Pat Robertson calling Bush a liar? Two men enter, one man falls.


The article you quoted makes Pat Robertson seem quite the Bush supporter. If anything, he wants Bush to win rather than Kerry.
 
Been reading around more on the topic. Looks like Robertson has said this before in June:

BROWN: I want to ask you how you feel about the war in Iraq. And if God is calling this war a disaster, does that mean that he is actually opposed to it?

ROBERTSON: Well, I don‘t think God‘s opposed to the war, necessarily, but it was a danger sign. I felt very uneasy about it from the very get-go. Whenever I heard about it, I knew it was going to be trouble. I warned the president. I only met with him once. I said, You better prepare the American people for some serious casualties. And he said, Oh, no, our troops are, you know, so well protected, we don‘t have to worry about that. But it has been messy. And I think we‘re going to come out of it, though. I think we‘ll have a free Iraq. But it certainly has been a mess so far.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5277869

How much time did the media go over this back then?
 
Pat Robertson is on a show where his inarticulate son claims that he's a vessel through which Jesus heals people. At the end of The 700 Club, Robertson Jr. sits there and goes, "I see someone with a -- a back ailment, and he will be healed right as I speak!"
 
Mercury Fred said:
I swear these political threads are like bug zappers for right wing (especially junior) members.

BZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzt...OW! BAN!

You have to lure them in early before they become the next TPO or Iron Knuckle
 

Keio

For a Finer World
I guess we have to be content with the one platinum hit VitaBone left us with before he was banned... "Why do you think their is communism?" ... that sounds like a lovely tag! Still ROTFLMAO.

Regarding the Robertson issue, I find the denial by the White House even more disturbing than the "we're not going to have any casualties" quote.
 

ShadowRed

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Spike Spiegel said:
Well hey, if Pat Robertson says the President said all that, it must be true... right?





SWEET MERCIFUL LORD!!!! Now you poeple are attcking Pat Robertson. My God you people have lost your minds. When will this insanity stop? I bet some point in time Bush is going to say something that contradicts what he said previously and you people will call him anti Bush.
 

ShadowRed

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Diablos said:
Um, dude, Bush did actually say "bring it on" to anyone that wants to oppose the US Military presence in Iraq.

He went from saying there would be no casualties and now they are at 1000. Yet people forgive him for it. Bill Clinton cheats on his wife and people still won't let it go. Fundamentalist loons never fail to amaze me. Cheating on wife = bad (and it is), but they never, ever get over it. Sending kids to a war to get killed over a lie = understandable. This is one reason why they never fail to amaze me.




Maybe Bill should have went on TV and said The Lord told him to let Monica suck his dick. Then everything would have been alright.
 
ShadowRed said:
Maybe Bill should have went on TV and said The Lord told him to let Monica suck his di[ck]. Then everything would have been alright.

I think they have more of a problem with Clinton lying about it, rather than the act itself (at least from the ones I've spoken to). This just added to the the other supposed Clinton scandals. Thinking back at those scandals, I kind of want to go back to the good old times where these were major concerns.
 
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