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Buzzfeed: R. Kelly Is Holding Women Against Their Will In A “Cult,” Parents Told Poli

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Triggerhappytel

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Boke1879 said:
Still amazing to me how pretty much nothing happened to him after the shit he did years ago.
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I don't remember specifics, but doesn't he have a thing for very young girls?!

Byakuya769 said:
Another entertainment predator just walking around and doing whatever the fuck he wants.
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Well, one of them is the President so I'm not sure that much can be done.

Verelios said:
Hmmmm...this is honestly tough. Is there any legal recourse for someone inducting others into a cult like life?
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Unless the person is willing to admit they're a victim or being held against their will, I seriously doubt it.
 
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E-phonk

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So you mean the guy who writes songs like this

Cookie, cookie, cookie, I'm a cookie monster
Break your back, crack it open like a lobster
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Girl, I got you so wet, it's like a rainforest
Like Jurassic Park except I'm your sex-a-saurus baby
You and me hoppin’ like two kangaroos
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Remember I'm the first to give your cootie the pain
So I wanna hear you answer when I ask you my name
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When you lay your hand on my pillow
I know girl this is gonna get scary like Thriller
You gonna feel this monster get bigger
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I be drillin' these chicks like Major Payne
When I make it rain, they be like "Kels, do it again"
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Y'see I order one bottle then I fuck with one model
Then I order more bottles so I got more models
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Girl I promise this will be painless
We'll take a trip to planet Uranus
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like her, I like her, I like her
Wait, I like her too, I like her too
And her friend too, and her cousin too
And her sister, and her mother
And her, her, her, her, her big grandma
From the hood to the fuckin' industry
Even the Statue of Liberty
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is a sexual predator?
No way, shocked.
 
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Barzul

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Read the entire article. Fucked up, super fucked up but apparently all completely legal. It's shit like this and like Scientology that make me just wonder how?

Then again as a society we established ages of consent and adulthood. If these women insist on being there we can't forcibly remove their agency.

I think the FBI should be looking for whatever criminal statute they can pin on the man no matter how minuscule. The goal should be pierce the "control" he has over these women which might make them more willing to consider their external environment. Right now their lives just revolve around him and obviously they've drank the kool aid. But yeah I agree this is essential a cult of R Kelly.
 
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lightskintwin

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entremet said:
How is this guy not in jail with all the smoke over the years?
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In Aaliyah's case, parents just wanted to move on. Got the marriage annulled, moved Aaliyah to a new producer Timbaland and never spoke or interacted with R.Kelly again.

In the Child pornagraphy case, Sex tape was in bad quality so the defense was capable of convincing the jury the identity of the girl was inconclusive. The girl in the tape refused to testily for the prosecution.

I don't think there's any other case to hit headlines until this, and unfortunately it sounds like there may not be any laws being broken, but who knows...

Barzul said:
Read the entire article. Fucked up, super fucked up but apparently all completely legal. It's shit like this and like Scientology that make me just wonder how?

Then again as a society we established ages of consent and adulthood. If these women insist on being there we can't forcibly remove their agency.

I think the FBI should be looking for whatever criminal statute they can pin on the man no matter how minuscule. The goal should be pierce the "control" he has over these women which might make them more willing to consider their external environment. Right now their lives just revolve around him and obviously they've drank the kool aid. But yeah I agree this is essential a cult of R Kelly.
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As long as the women are adults and they have agency then no the FBI shouldn't be doing that. The parents should definitely seek help to get their daughters though.
 
entremet

entremet

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lightskintwin said:
In Aaliyah's case, parents just wanted to move on. Got the marriage annulled, moved Aaliyah to a new producer Timbaland and never spoke or interacted with R.Kelly again.

In the Child pornagraphy case, Sex tape was in bad quality so the defense was capable of convincing the jury the identity of the girl was inconclusive. The girl in the tape refused to testily for the prosecution.

I don't think there's any other case to hit headlines until this, and unfortunately it sounds like there may not be any laws being broken, but who knows...



As long as the women are adults and they have agency then no the FBI shouldn't be doing that. The parents should definitely seek help to get their daughters though.
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I forgot that child marriage is a thing in the US. Weird.
 
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Beartruck

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D4Danger said:
Sure he's a known sexual predator but he's also famous. Decisions, decisions.
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Kinda where I'm at. Don't wanna victim shame but leaving your daughter with a man famous for peeing on a teenager seems like a big lapse in judgement.

That said, hope something can be done to stop this sick fuck so they can get their daughter back.
 
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Maebe

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Jesus christ that article is horrifying. There's so much evidence against him and his career isn't destroyed nor is he in jail.
 
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g11

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lightskintwin said:
Not only did he get married to Aaliyah when he was writing and producing her first album and she was 14-15, but he titled the album along with the title track "Age Ain't Nothing But A Number"

At least in Black Culture/Media back in the day, that was the scandal.

I don't recall Mainstream media talking about it that much.
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Well holy shit. TIL and I wish I hadn't.
 
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Barzul

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lightskintwin said:
As long as the women are adults and they have agency then no the FBI shouldn't be doing that. The parents should definitely seek help to get their daughters though.
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Maybe you're right. FBI thing might be dangerous precedent. Have to consider the wants of the women as well. If they want this can't certainly deny them this. Ah it's complicated as hell.....I don't like it but what can you do really.
 
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hurricanes

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He is a monster and these parents are freaking morons.

Infinite said:
Cause he does what he does to black girls and no one gives a shit about them
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No need to drag race into this. The biggest sex predator in the entertainment industry is black and raped many white women and he isn't locked up.
 
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Fuchsdh

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entremet said:
How is this guy not in jail with all the smoke over the years?
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At least with what's being described in the Buzzfeed article, it all sounds above-board. Whatever's going on with the underage women he's waiting until they're legal to move them into his places. It's possible he's having sex with underage girls still but it doesn't look like there's any easily accessible proof, and stuff like physical abuse and assault charges could only stick if these women were willing to testify. And then civil lawsuits get settled away since he's got the money for it.
 
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Preezy

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Infinite said:
Cause he does what he does to black girls and no one gives a shit about them
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platocplx

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backbreaker65 said:
A one sided hit piece. He's having sex with consenting adults. If they are not complaining why are people so outraged.
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and there is really a defense force for everything. These women arent really consenting they been brainwashed and have fear because of a powerful 50 year old man with money. You didnt even bother reading what he has been doing to groom and control these young women.

BTW you can even see his GQ Interview and how gross this man is.
http://www.gq.com/story/r-kelly-confessions
 
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GrapeApes

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platocplx said:
and there is really a defense force for everything. These women arent really consenting they been brainwashed and have fear because of a powerful 50 year old man with money. You didnt even bother reading what he has been doing to groom and control these young women.
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Or the part where he's been settling crimes in civil court.
 
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zeemumu

Member
backbreaker65 said:
A one sided hit piece. He's having sex with consenting adults. If they are not complaining why are people so outraged.
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Because he's manipulated several women's aspirations of stardom by convincing them that he'll help them with their careers and that they're in love with him when in reality he's basically treating them like pet/glorified sex dolls and these people haven't seen their families in a long time as a result?
 
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backbreaker65

Banned
platocplx said:
and there is really a defense force for everything. These women arent really consenting they been brainwashed and have fear because of a powerful 50 year old man with money. You didnt even bother reading what he has been doing to groom and control these young women.

BTW you can even see his GQ Interview and how gross this man is.
http://www.gq.com/story/r-kelly-confessions
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Man it's funny people take a one sided story and believe everything that is written. That is a problem with people as a whole, and come away with the "buzz word" used by the author "brainwashed". People.
 
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Deepwater

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backbreaker65 said:
Man it's funny people take a one sided story and believe everything that is written. That is a problem with people as a whole, and come away with the "buzz word" used by the author "brainwashed". People.
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the man was literally put on trial for sexual misconduct with a minor but this is a one sided story? the man who also (illegally) married a 15 year old girl (whom he met when she was 12)?

log off and get on your non junior account so we can know who you are pls & thx
 
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backbreaker65

Banned
Deepwater said:
the man was literally put on trial for sexual misconduct with a minor but this is a one sided story? the man who also (illegally) married a 15 year old girl (whom he met when she was 12)?

log off and get on your non junior account so we can know who you are pls & thx
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I know this, but what does this have to do with him having sex with consenting adults?

Nah, they had me banned because I don't march in lock step. I have been here since the early 2000's.
 
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ShyMel

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backbreaker65 said:
I know this, but what does this have to do with him having sex with consenting adults?
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He has a history with controlling women, including young girls. People are rightfully concerned that the women in this story were coerced into this situation and may not have the ability to consent.
 
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