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C&C: Generals 2 (EA/Bioware Victory; Frostbite 2) [Details, PC Exclusive, Screens]
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Comrade Stalin
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CHINA WILL GROW LARGAH!
Pretty sure the 3rd side will be Russia or possibly China. 'Merica will be the main selling point for the expansion pack.
There needs to be a overpowering, brute force faction to counter the technology faction (EU) and the sneaky faction (GLA). EU was probably picked over the USA because PC gaming is big in Germany and many other continental European countries, which is the heart of eSports and where PC gaming is number 1.
There needs to be a overpowering, brute force faction to counter the technology faction (EU) and the sneaky faction (GLA). EU was probably picked over the USA because PC gaming is big in Germany and many other continental European countries, which is the heart of eSports and where PC gaming is number 1.
Same feeling. Red Alert was great, RA2 topped that, then RA3 happened... Westwood died a long time ago.
Proelite
Member
I am predicting EU is a subfaction of "Western" factions that also includes USA. GLA can be a subfaction of Russia since they shared a lot of tech with Soviet Union in Generals 1. China has their own R&D path for weapons in the real world, but I wouldn't know any nation that would work as a subfaction of China expect for NK.
I guess the subfactions can be further differentiated by their unique Generals.
Bah, EU and Gla might just be campaign only factions like the PLR were in Battlefield 3.
I guess the subfactions can be further differentiated by their unique Generals.
Bah, EU and Gla might just be campaign only factions like the PLR were in Battlefield 3.
I don't think they have the license anymore or are willing to license it.
Proelite
Member
Half the Generals will be female, and you need to gain their "loyalty" in order to access their best ability.
Metal Gear?!
Member
AK-47s for EVERYONE!
AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYARRRHGHHHH
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
Oh yes I approve of this.
Anyway this doesn't sound like a traditional Bioware game in any way. The story setup is beyond horrible.
Darth Kupi
Banned
A sequel to CnC:Generals?
But I already played that game.
It was called Act of War
irect Action.
But I already played that game.
It was called Act of War
irect Action.I'm not even trolling.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
A sequel to CnC:Generals?
But I already played that game.
It was called Act of War
I'm not even trolling.
AoW was quite fun and had some neat ideas. I loved the PoW stuff and rescuing wounded soldiers.
the capture prisoner mechanic was in Generals at some point actually but it was cut before release, files still remained in the game.
Each faction had a prison building. Intelligence Center for USA was actually in original Generals but cut in Zero Hour and it's ability (revealing map) was moved to Strategy Center, it required capturing prisoners to recharge in the cut code that are still in the ini files.
Prison building for all factions could build POW Trucks, which could carry prisoners back to Prison building like a resource harvester.
Flashbangs for USA's Rangers were not supposed to kill enemies (since when flashbang is lethal?
) it was for capturing prisoners. GLA Rebels had tranq. darts and Chinese Red Guards had stun bullets doing the same thing for each faciton. All the files, sound effects and 3D models were remained in the game code and there was a mod that brought these back but it didn't work so well.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
I don't know whether the synopsis is supposed to be parody or not.
Then again, the best parody is when they don't tell you it's parody.
Then again, the best parody is when they don't tell you it's parody.
Did you see Red Alert 3? Comparing the women in RA3 vs RA2 was embarrassing.
I felt kind of insulted that they thought the thing I'd appreciate most is if they got all the female actors to open their shirts.
I'm... warming to the game. CnC has fallen so low that it can only go up (or it'll go negative and end up in game's Hell). And since it is coming 2013, i have a bit over a year to get a gaming PC.
Not happy about the price though, i called it on top of page 2. Good thing they seemed to miss my reasoning why it could be $70...
A-10 Napalm Strike needs to come back though. Anyone remember the Enemy AI using it in original C&C? Once it dropped one bomb at time on an unit, following it.
Not happy about the price though, i called it on top of page 2. Good thing they seemed to miss my reasoning why it could be $70...
A-10 Napalm Strike needs to come back though. Anyone remember the Enemy AI using it in original C&C? Once it dropped one bomb at time on an unit, following it.
Wow, didn't know that. Did anyone ever mod it back it?
CecilRousso
Member
So what do we know about the game?
*From a dev with no connections to the previous games?
*From a dev that they want to call Bioware, but doesn´t seem to be Bioware in more than the name?
*Marketed with the "modern war setting".
*Already marketed with DLC for just about every component in the game.
*Release date - 2 years from now.
Forgive me if I don´t fall for the hype.
Might be a fun game, but I can´t help to feel a bit sad that a game still can get so much attention just because it has the C&C name.
*From a dev with no connections to the previous games?
*From a dev that they want to call Bioware, but doesn´t seem to be Bioware in more than the name?
*Marketed with the "modern war setting".
*Already marketed with DLC for just about every component in the game.
*Release date - 2 years from now.
Forgive me if I don´t fall for the hype.
Might be a fun game, but I can´t help to feel a bit sad that a game still can get so much attention just because it has the C&C name.
Darth Kupi
Banned
the capture prisoner mechanic was in Generals at some point actually but it was cut before release, files still remained in the game.
Each faction had a prison building. Intelligence Center for USA was actually in original Generals but cut in Zero Hour and it's ability (revealing map) was moved to Strategy Center, it required capturing prisoners to recharge in the cut code that are still in the ini files.
Prison building for all factions could build POW Trucks, which could carry prisoners back to Prison building like a resource harvester.
Flashbangs for USA's Rangers were not supposed to kill enemies (since when flashbang is lethal?
All the files, sound effects and 3D models were remained in the game code and there was a mod that brought these back but it didn't work so well.
Exactly.
AoW started where Generals left off.
I thought the graphics were also pretty awesome for its time.
And I especially loved the way airforces were handled in that game.
Yes.
Never tried it myself because everyone who did said it was janky.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
So what do we know about the game?
*From a dev with no connections to the previous games?
*From a dev that they want to call Bioware, but doesn´t seem to be Bioware in more than the name?
*Marketed with the "modern war setting".
*Already marketed with DLC for just about every component in the game.
*Release date - 2 years from now.
Forgive me if I don´t fall for the hype.
Might be a fun game, but I can´t help to feel a bit sad that a game still can get so much attention just because it has the C&C name.
The "modern war setting" was directly taken from Generals 1, which was a great game. The development team also apparently has some pretty high profile talent attached to it (creator of Heroes of Might & Magic series, if memory serves me), and the brief footage we've seen looks pretty decent so far.
Oh god.
Never played generals seriously online (just AI), but playing SC2 it's funny thinking back to the money collecting structures. Kind of different from the need to always expand in SC2.
And was I the only one who made a billion particle cannons, just to have fun with the AI?
reptilescorpio
Member
They already have recommended system specs and the game isn't even out this year? Or next year?
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
Never played generals seriously online (just AI), but playing SC2 it's funny thinking back to the money collecting structures. Kind of different from the need to always expand in SC2.
And was I the only one who made a billion particle cannons, just to have fun with the AI?
Expanding to other supply zones was absolutely necessary for competitive play - the money collecting structures/units, while viable in the long term for an extended game session, were not viable in a typical online game which ended in 10 minutes or less. They came late in the tech tree and took a while to pay for themselves - with no concept of support limits the only limiting factors for your units was factory bandwidth and cashflow, so MORE TANKS was usually a much better investment.
And of course you're not the only one who just mucked about with the A.I. / single player componenets. I did that for the few few years I owned the game - never touched online until about 04 / 05.
frostbite 2 has a blue pissfilter.
brotkasten
Member
Good to see that EA finally got their all-for-one game engine. Took them few years, but it seems that Frostbite 2 is now the way to go.
That's all I really want. That and a good skirmish mode.
UnluckyKate
Member
wait wait wait
WAIT
... PC exclusive ?
Now we're talking EA.
WAIT
... PC exclusive ?
Now we're talking EA.
ScepticMatt
Member
huh ... interesting.
I'd love to see another genuine good C&C.
I'd love to see another genuine good C&C.
Metal Gear?!
Member
It's an RTS. I think EA got the message from how poorly the console ports of C&C3 and RA3 sold.
C&C4 was PC exclusive. Starcraft 2 was PC exclusive.
Darkspore was PC exclusive. Diablo III is PC exclusive.
I suppose nothing is stopping them from trying out at least a Wii U port eventually, but it is indeed PC exclusive for now.
No one uses Punkbuster for RTS games. It doesn't address the problem that RTS games have (map/fog of war hacking) and does address problems that RTS games don't have (namely client-side value changes, which will simply cause desync in peer to peer localhosted games like RTS games).
They'll be handing out money to the worst player, while being sure they won't get it back..
Katana_Strikes
Member
2013? Well I can forget this one existing for a while. Nice to see C+C back how it should, but seemed a waste to announce this now. And it's unlikely to work in some regard on my laptop.
Technosteve
Banned
Company of Heros game play?
Not that far fetched. Just take the homefront timeline and replace North Korea with Quebec and the East Asia with North America. Poutine will rule everyone.
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