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[Werewolf Jones]

GreatCharleston - Is a player who just recently got called out for being just active enough to not bother anyone until he got called out by several players. He proceeded to say that MattAttack should go and investigate him as soon as we killed Blarg ( which is kind of dumb, since MattAttack'S purpose was to find Lovecraft ) This one raises Flags for me

I just thought he had powers to search up ANY one participating at night but only once per night, this extra spicy sub plot of Lovecraft is kinda whack. But you're free to think what you like. Seems any mistake in this game is fatal.

 

[Sorian]

Well since a lot happened in the last couple of days ( or not that much if you take out blargs post ) here are some updated thoughts on some player.
This time they make sense, since i did not rush this post and read through it several times.

NeverForever :
has called out several players of fluff in the first day but since then nothing much happened from his side. He posted an updated list of his but i guess he just watched how the situation with blarg and coppa panned out. He seems like town but i could be wrong aswell so from my side its a 50/50

Sorian :
Posts a lot ( nothing new ) but it was interesting to see him react after being called out by Neuromancer. Since he said we should not take it as something normal that someone would post THAT much.

GreatCharleston - Is a player who just recently got called out for being just active enough to not bother anyone until he got called out by several players. He proceeded to say that MattAttack should go and investigate him as soon as we killed Blarg ( which is kind of dumb, since MattAttack'S purpose was to find Lovecraft ) This one raises Flags for me

RetroMG
Seems to be playing the same game as the last time , nothing unusual since he tries to be active and contributes a lot. Seems Town

Timeaisis
Upped his activity by 100% in the last day and has been very vocal about getting blarg lynched. I share his mindset since blarg has distracted town more than helped.

Darryl
I think he is town since he calls out bullshit posts with an angry voice and is not affected by them. Keeps a clear mind.

Neuromancer
Since he had not posted much at the beginning i was unsure of him but yeah, he called out sorian for posting a lot and is a player who says that everyone , including Sorian, should be seen as suspicious

Flamce_AC:
Tries to defend Coppa but this does not make him Cult in my eyes, since he is making the most sense of almost all of the players

Rats Off To Ya:
Thought of his defense on Blarg as cultist at the beginning but after he posted more and more his reasoning made a lot more sense. thinking light town for now

Johnny :
Only chimed in when he had something to say stays just active enough to not called out. For now Town

MattAttack :
I believe in MattAttack said it earlier will do it again. I dont think he is that insane to fuck with all of us.

Loc :
Shady but you make a lot of sense , even with calling me out for not making any.

Coppa:
Thought of you as an inactive town first, you defended yourself quite well first but since then you made some scummy moves. Cant really think that you could be town.

Droplet :She was Inactive at first but after reading through her posts once again you made some good reads.

TWE: At leat a bit more active than Captain , but that is not saying much. Since you did not post that much i cant make out wether you are town or cult. NO READ

Ultron : No read aswell . You post a lot more and only then when it matters. Defended yourself quite well after being called out but still have that feeling that you might be hiding something.

Good to finally have something more concrete from you. This is all I had asked for when I voted for you so thank you. Bonus points for still posting it even after I had removed my vote from you even though that was only a few minutes before you endd up posting anyway.

 

[Blargonaut]

The bolded is the crux of your argument and I actually am not so sure it's a 100% fact. Someone brought this up earlier and I've been thinking about it and it makes a lot of sense. MattAttacks only win condition can't be that you get lynched. It's too passive of a win condition. We almost lynched you yesterday, are you saying if we had then he would have just won? No, I don't buy that. So what? If his win condition isn't to get you lynched then what is it? Well, nothing else would make sense other than him being town-aligned and removing all cult players. Sure, his fate was locked to yours, a neutral player, but that doesn't mean both of you are neutral. He is now just an ordinary tourist with you out of the game. I don't actually think he will be exiting by morning.

It is a 100% confirmed fact and Town is going to eat shit in the end-game because of you. You're speculating. I'm not.

The lead is that during day and night 1, a cultist was dead. The tourists already outnumber the cultists and throughout the entire day we traded 2 tourists for 1 cultist. The ratio was probably 4:1 to begin with and we've skewed that even more in our favor.

The lead you got from the Cultist's death was that a Cultist is dead? That's some mighty fine forensics work there. That odds bullshit you're spouting is fluff padding for that sentence.

Also, GreatCharleston, what are you doing?

 

[Blargonaut]

Not sure if traube is around, so...

Current votes:

Blargonaut (9)
Sorian
Flame_AC
Lord of Castamere
Timeaisis
Coppanuva

nin1000​

ultron87​

Coppanuva
Matt Attack
Rats Off To Ya
Blargonaut
RetroMG
Sorian
TheWorthyEdge

Timeaisis​

Matt Attack

Never Forever​

Coppanuva​

johnnyquicknives
Sorian

GreatCharleston​

Sorian​

11 votes are needed for majority.

Before me and Matt Attack go (which is an early game mistake on the Town's part, as I've discussed in my final plea), remember that the 6 players I've indented out to the right above, are players on my list of Cultist/Neutral suspects. I've added GreatCharleston too, making that 7 in the pool. His day's end increase of activity and bandwagoning is scummy.

There's Cultists and Neutrals on that tally.

I also want you all to remember how quickly Sorian placed down his Vote against me after I wrote my final, rational plea, especially considering the fact that I actually lied that I wouldn't be around when the deadline hit. I'm totally going to be here. Sorian saw his chance because he felt he would be unopposed with me AFK, and was too hasty. He's highly suspicious.

Lynching me today is a mistake. You should've lynched me tomorrow. It's not too late to change your minds. Read my final plea a few posts back. It makes sense. It's the most sense I've made.

 

[Sorian]

It is a 100% confirmed fact and Town is going to eat shit in the end-game because of you. You're speculating. I'm not.

We're both speculating and you know it. Matt isn't going to tell us whether he is neutral or not so we are stuck debating on the matter. Of course you are going to say he is because that's your last chance at keeping yourself alive. As I said above though, I don't think it makes sense for him to be a neutral anymore. Getting you lynched during the day is too passive to be his win condition so it makes more sense that he is a town-aligned compass meant to weed you out for your power up considering if you had played straight, you would have come off as a regular tourist trying to kill cultists and we would have had no reason to lynch you otherwise.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

Also, GreatCharleston, what are you doing?

Just going a little bit crazy.

I've added GreatCharleston too, making that 7 in the pool. His day's end increase of activity and bandwagoning is scummy.

Post too little, you're frowned upon, post too much all of a sudden and you're frowned upon. I know you're wanting to survive and wanting to drag me down with you on day 3, this is the thanks I get for that day 1 save.

Blarg sure is a traitor.

 

[Sorian]

I also want you all to remember how quickly Sorian placed down his Vote against me after I wrote my final, rational plea, especially considering the fact that I actually lied that I wouldn't be around when the deadline hit. I'm totally going to be here. Sorian saw his chance because he felt he would be unopposed with me AFK, and was too hasty. He's highly suspicious.

My stance on you has never changed and my vote has always been on you. You've done nothing to convince me that this is a bad decision and my vote on you had nothing to do with your "final" plea (we still have 5 hours, I expect 2 more pleas). Edge had removed his vote from you and I felt safe re-applying mine since we would be in the same position and the buffer was safe enough as to not end the day phase early accidentally.

 

[Blargonaut]

My stance on you has never changed and my vote has always been on you. You've done nothing to convince me that this is a bad decision and my vote on you had nothing to do with your "final" plea (we still have 5 hours, I expect 2 more pleas). Edge had removed his vote from you and I felt safe re-applying mine since we would be in the same position and the buffer was safe enough as to not end the day phase early accidentally.

I've done nothing to convince you because you're Cult, Sorian, or a Neutral trying to ingratiate himself to the Cult.

 

[Blargonaut]

Just going a little bit crazy.

Post too little, you're frowned upon, post too much all of a sudden and you're frowned upon. I know you're wanting to survive and wanting to drag me down with you on day 3, this is the thanks I get for that day 1 save.

Blarg sure is a traitor.

We damned ourselves.

 

[Sorian]

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I've done nothing to convince you because you're Cult, Sorian, or a Neutral trying to ingratiate himself to the Cult.[/QUOTE]

No, you've done nothing to convince me because at the end of the day, I think blocking the cult now is a better move for town than trying to save you for later. I feel like it's unsafe to leave you for later.

 

[Coppanuva]

I'm going to point out 2 things in case I die:

1) We're likely dealing with at least 3 remaining cultists. Look carefully at Blagonaut's win condition text. if I'm correct he wins when 3 cultists are dead, not all like a tourist's win condition. I know most people seem to realize this, but it's important to call it out.

2) Lone_Prodigy died on night 1. We had a list of people who thought he was suspicious during day 1.Why don't we look at the list of people who seemed to think he was suspicious as a possible user of a kill power, and from that decide if we think it's neutral or town-aligned. It's not automatic exoneration from being a cultist, but I feel if there's a serial killer in the town we should get rid of them first. It would halt the killings per day by 33%.

 

[Blargonaut]

No, you've done nothing to convince me because at the end of the day, I think blocking the cult now is a better move for town than trying to save you for later. I feel like it's unsafe to leave you for later.

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I don't know how I didn't see it before. It was there all along.

I've already told you all about my Win condition. I've fought for it. But the one thing I've failed to contemplate, is Matt Attack's Win condition. I've been dismissing him as a meddling kid all this time, and failed to pay attention to him.

Matt Attack wins once I'm gone. Once I get lynched today, he wins.

I disappear. ( -1 player from the game )
Matt Attack disappears. ( -1 player from the game )

The problem is, we're both Neutrals. We're not Cultists. Every non-Cult body in the game is a meat shield against the Cult's Win condition of outnumbering you. The Town will experience 2 deaths tonight if you lynch me, PLUS the possible 2 deaths by Cult night action and the possible 3rd party SK.

If you lynch me, Town has the potential to lose up to 4 bodies tonight, including me. Is that worth my Night protection blessing? I don't think so.

It would be best for Town not to lynch me. Just keep me alive, and you keep Matt Attack alive. You need to keep us around and not lynch us. It's better.

I mean 3 bodies, not 4 actually, because I'd be blessing you tonight. Unless a 3rd party has a unicorn double kill or something.

But still, that's 2 confirmed non-Cult deaths if you lynch me today, and 3 bodies total you'd be potentially losing tonight, if you lynch me.

If you DON'T lynch me today and lynch someone else, you still have the potential to lose 3 people total tonight, but 2 of them DEFINITELY won't be confirmed Neutrals like me and Matt Attack.

- By lynching me, you CONFIRMED lose 2 confirmed Neutrals (who, despite being Neutrals, still add to the anti-Cult head-count) AND 1 POTENTIAL Town to a possible 3rd-party tonight. A good thing, but enacted too early. Your investigative roles need a smaller player count right now, not extra time. It's still the early game; there are still enough Ordinary Tourists in the pool to soak up potential hits. It's too early for my power to actually mean something.

- By NOT lynching me, you POTENTIALLY lose 3 confirmed Town (1 possibly from lynch, 2 possibly tonight from Cult kill + possible SK) tonight, because the Cult, if smart, won't target me or Matt Attack tonight as we're wasted night targets. HOWEVER, it's only Day 2, and the loss of 3 Town is still entirely survivable, even if you lose more power roles tonight. In the end, your got votes will kill the Cultists. It's still the early game, despite the page count, and you need deaths of unknown quantities right now, not known Neutrals like me and Matt Attack. Town needs a smaller player count right now for their investigative roles to have a smaller pool of suspects, to increase the chances of them finding a Cultist. You need to allow the attacks to happen tonight. There are enough players still that the odds are still in your power roles' favour.

Remember, my power has more lucrative effect the smaller the head-count. Lynch me tomorrow, when the player count has decreased a bit more for my block power to mean more.

It would be better for Town to keep us Neutrals in play, and lynch another suspect today.

Please, there are only a few hours left, and this is the optimal strategy for Town. It's still the early game, and you need less unknowns. Town needs deaths right now. Me and Matt Attack are knowns, and it's too early to engage my power. Even your investigative roles need a smaller play count, and there are still enough players in the game to act as a buffer against their deaths. You lose more if you lynch me, because I take Matt Attack with me.

Bullshit. You're going to lynch me because I'm a "distraction"? You don't have Town's best interests at heart, Sorian. You need to read what I wrote above and understand how rational it is.

Your vote right there is a hurried push to get me out, and a desperate one. You're making a mistake.

Matt Attack will 100% leave the game upon my lynching. It's the same situation as johnnyquicknives being Han Solo/smuggler in the Star Wars game. He will leave with me.

Town needs to allow these deaths because it's still early game, your investigative roles need the smaller player count and there are still enough bodies to even the odds against them getting hit tonight. My power will be more effective on Day 3. Lynch me on Day 3.

Unvote me now, don't do this.

.

 

[Timeaisis]

It's like the five stages of grief in here.

 

[Blargonaut]

It's like the five stages of grief in here.

And you're in denial.

 

[Never Forever]

 

[Zatoth]

Blargonaut (9)
GreatCharleston
Sorian
Never Forever
johnnyquicknives
ultron87
Matt Attack
Timeaisis
Coppanuva
nin1000

Coppanuva (3)
Rats Off To Ya
Droplet
Darryl

GreatCharleston (2)
Flame_AC
ScraftyDevil

Sorian (1)
Neuromancer

Timeaisis (1)
Blargonaut

nin1000 (1)
Lord of Castamere

11 votes are needed to end the day early

 

[Coppanuva]

Calling this out since we talked about it during day 1:

Some people have no reported votes cast in right now. I didn't look through post history so some might have "unofficially" voted for someone and not have on up since it would end the day early. Right now it's:
TheWorthyEdge
RetroMG
Vylash

 

[Sorian]

I'm going to point out 2 things in case I die:

1) We're likely dealing with at least 3 remaining cultists. Look carefully at Blagonaut's win condition text. if I'm correct he wins when 3 cultists are dead, not all like a tourist's win condition. I know most people seem to realize this, but it's important to call it out.

2) Lone_Prodigy died on night 1. We had a list of people who thought he was suspicious during day 1.Why don't we look at the list of people who seemed to think he was suspicious as a possible user of a kill power, and from that decide if we think it's neutral or town-aligned. It's not automatic exoneration from being a cultist, but I feel if there's a serial killer in the town we should get rid of them first. It would halt the killings per day by 33%.

We need to get back to scum hunting tomorrow, if the killer is not town aligned then they will probably appear to be scum. With one kill on their belt, they appear to be town-aligned just because of the nature of who they killed. Depending on what we see tonight will be whether I think it is worth actively lookin for the killer.

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I already said I don't think Matt will be leaving the game, that invalidates most of the posts. I'm aware this is a switch from what I said originally said when Matt first role claimed but at that time I was also unaware that neutral players who win are just removed from the game right away. From a design standpoint, it just doesn't make sense that his condition is for a random other player to be lynched. We could have won yesterday with np input from himself if multiple people didn't step in hoping you'd deliver more than you did.

 

[Sorian]

Calling this out since we talked about it during day 1:

Some people have no reported votes cast in right now. I didn't look through post history so some might have "unofficially" voted for someone and not have on up since it would end the day early. Right now it's:
TheWorthyEdge
RetroMG
Vylash

I'm curious if Vylash plans to play :/

Edge just removed his vote from Blarg for reasons that I don't think are that sound but I think he was trying to say he is in the camp that killing him later would be more beneficial.

Retro is withholding a vote as to not push the day early. Last time I believe he said his "vote" was on Blarg but he would still like to vote else where if we could actually not make tomorrow a day where we talk about Blarg all day which I doubt would happen.

 

[Blargonaut]

We need to get back to scum hunting tomorrow, if the killer is not town aligned then they will probably appear to be scum. With one kill on their belt, they appear to be town-aligned just because of the nature of who they killed. Depending on what we see tonight will be whether I think it is worth actively lookin for the killer.

I already said I don't think Matt will be leaving the game, that invalidates most of the posts. I'm aware this is a switch from what I said originally said when Matt first role claimed but at that time I was also unaware that neutral players who win are just removed from the game right away. From a design standpoint, it just doesn't make sense that his condition is for a random other player to be lynched. We could have won yesterday with np input from himself if multiple people didn't step in hoping you'd deliver more than you did.

THAT INVALIDATES NOTHING. Unaware is fucking right.

Just because you fucking think it doesn't make it fact, Sorian.

I am the one who has laid my Role PM bare, Matt Attack even did it for me. I have more credibility than you. It's that fucking simple, yet the rest of you don't see it. Why?

I'm not going to stop being pro-Town and loud just because you're in my fucking way. You'd all better kill me if you're not going to take the rational advice I've given you in my plea.

 

[ScraftyDevil]

I'm plannin' on votin' for Blarg too, but I don't wanna accidentally push the vote tally into ending the day early.

Tomorrow's discussion could end up bein' very interestin' dependin' on who th' third party decides to bump off tonight. Better start prayin' to any powers that be that we get lucky again.

 

[Coppanuva]

I'm curious if Vylash plans to play :/

Edge just removed his vote from Blarg for reasons that I don't think are that sound but I think he was trying to say he is in the camp that killing him later would be more beneficial.

Retro is withholding a vote as to not push the day early. Last time I believe he said his "vote" was on Blarg but he would still like to vote else where if we could actually not make tomorrow a day where we talk about Blarg all day which I doubt would happen.

That's perfectly fine, and I understand. I had a feeling that might be the case but mobile isn't the best way to check these things out. I just thought it would be worth having it easily called out since it gave us some leads on who to question today.

In regards to your comment above, I agree there's a chance they will look sketchy. I still think having a smaller list to choose from would be useful, and if there's a chance anyone could get some sort of confirmation about those players, might find it useful to look into.

 

[RetroMG]

Retro is withholding a vote as to not push the day early. Last time I believe he said his "vote" was on Blarg but he would still like to vote else where if we could actually not make tomorrow a day where we talk about Blarg all day which I doubt would happen.

Correct. If the group as a whole thought that they could move past this whole issue, I would agree to keep Blarg alive. Since I don't think that is actually likely, my vote is still on him. However, I am not officially placing it because I don't want to hit the end of the day.

 

[Coppanuva]

Correct. If the group as a whole thought that they could move past this whole issue, I would agree to keep Blarg alive. Since I don't think that is actually likely, my vote is still on him. However, I am not officially placing it because I don't want to hit the end of the day.

Great, I remember you saying that I just wasn't able to search post history to verify. I think that's perfectly fine, and it's good that it's getting called out here as well since it's close to the reminder. I did mention this might be the case in the post.

 

[Sorian]

THAT INVALIDATES NOTHING. Unaware is fucking right.

Just because you fucking think it doesn't make it fact, Sorian.

I am the one who has laid my Role PM bare, Matt Attack even did it for me. I have more credibility than you. It's that fucking simple, yet the rest of you don't see it. Why?

I'm not going to stop being pro-Town and loud just because you're in my fucking way. You'd all better kill me if you're not going to take the rational advice I've given you in my plea.

The bolded is kind of obvious. I don't know much, I'm just presenting my theory on the matter. Your plea is that if we kill you know, it'll remove Matt from the game which should scare us because that is another body gone. I countered that I don't think he is leaving the game. I'm also going to counter with the obvious. Why should we be scared of that anyway? Lynching you at any time would remove him if he was a neutral player. Why worry about it at any time, if he is neutral, we are going to lose him at some point regardless, it's not like he will ever act as a real buffer against a cult win anyway.

 

[Blargonaut]

I'm plannin' on votin' for Blarg too, but I don't wanna accidentally push the vote tally into ending the day early.

Tomorrow's discussion could end up bein' very interestin' dependin' on who th' third party decides to bump off tonight. Better start prayin' to any powers that be that we get lucky again.

Correct. If the group as a whole thought that they could move past this whole issue, I would agree to keep Blarg alive. Since I don't think that is actually likely, my vote is still on him. However, I am not officially placing it because I don't want to hit the end of the day.

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I don't know how I didn't see it before. It was there all along.

I've already told you all about my Win condition. I've fought for it. But the one thing I've failed to contemplate, is Matt Attack's Win condition. I've been dismissing him as a meddling kid all this time, and failed to pay attention to him.

Matt Attack wins once I'm gone. Once I get lynched today, he wins.

I disappear. ( -1 player from the game )
Matt Attack disappears. ( -1 player from the game )

The problem is, we're both Neutrals. We're not Cultists. Every non-Cult body in the game is a meat shield against the Cult's Win condition of outnumbering you. The Town will experience 2 deaths tonight if you lynch me, PLUS the possible 2 deaths by Cult night action and the possible 3rd party SK.

If you lynch me, Town has the potential to lose up to 4 bodies tonight, including me. Is that worth my Night protection blessing? I don't think so.

It would be best for Town not to lynch me. Just keep me alive, and you keep Matt Attack alive. You need to keep us around and not lynch us. It's better.

I mean 3 bodies, not 4 actually, because I'd be blessing you tonight. Unless a 3rd party has a unicorn double kill or something.

But still, that's 2 confirmed non-Cult deaths if you lynch me today, and 3 bodies total you'd be potentially losing tonight, if you lynch me.

If you DON'T lynch me today and lynch someone else, you still have the potential to lose 3 people total tonight, but 2 of them DEFINITELY won't be confirmed Neutrals like me and Matt Attack.

- By lynching me, you CONFIRMED lose 2 confirmed Neutrals (who, despite being Neutrals, still add to the anti-Cult head-count) AND 1 POTENTIAL Town to a possible 3rd-party tonight. A good thing, but enacted too early. Your investigative roles need a smaller player count right now, not extra time. It's still the early game; there are still enough Ordinary Tourists in the pool to soak up potential hits. It's too early for my power to actually mean something.

- By NOT lynching me, you POTENTIALLY lose 3 confirmed Town (1 possibly from lynch, 2 possibly tonight from Cult kill + possible SK) tonight, because the Cult, if smart, won't target me or Matt Attack tonight as we're wasted night targets. HOWEVER, it's only Day 2, and the loss of 3 Town is still entirely survivable, even if you lose more power roles tonight. In the end, your got votes will kill the Cultists. It's still the early game, despite the page count, and you need deaths of unknown quantities right now, not known Neutrals like me and Matt Attack. Town needs a smaller player count right now for their investigative roles to have a smaller pool of suspects, to increase the chances of them finding a Cultist. You need to allow the attacks to happen tonight. There are enough players still that the odds are still in your power roles' favour.

Remember, my power has more lucrative effect the smaller the head-count. Lynch me tomorrow, when the player count has decreased a bit more for my block power to mean more.

It would be better for Town to keep us Neutrals in play, and lynch another suspect today.

Please, there are only a few hours left, and this is the optimal strategy for Town. It's still the early game, and you need less unknowns. Town needs deaths right now. Me and Matt Attack are knowns, and it's too early to engage my power. Even your investigative roles need a smaller play count, and there are still enough players in the game to act as a buffer against their deaths. You lose more if you lynch me, because I take Matt Attack with me.

Bullshit. You're going to lynch me because I'm a "distraction"? You don't have Town's best interests at heart, Sorian. You need to read what I wrote above and understand how rational it is.

Your vote right there is a hurried push to get me out, and a desperate one. You're making a mistake.

Matt Attack will 100% leave the game upon my lynching. It's the same situation as johnnyquicknives being Han Solo/smuggler in the Star Wars game. He will leave with me.

Town needs to allow these deaths because it's still early game, your investigative roles need the smaller player count and there are still enough bodies to even the odds against them getting hit tonight. My power will be more effective on Day 3. Lynch me on Day 3.

Unvote me now, don't do this.

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[Blargonaut]

The bolded is kind of obvious. I don't know much, I'm just presenting my theory on the matter. Your plea is that if we kill you know, it'll remove Matt from the game which should scare us because that is another body gone. I countered that I don't think he is leaving the game. I'm also going to counter with the obvious. Why should we be scared of that anyway? Lynching you at any time would remove him if he was a neutral player. Why worry about it at any time, if he is neutral, we are going to lose him at some point regardless, it's not like he will ever act as a real buffer against a cult win anyway.

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I don't know how I didn't see it before. It was there all along.

I've already told you all about my Win condition. I've fought for it. But the one thing I've failed to contemplate, is Matt Attack's Win condition. I've been dismissing him as a meddling kid all this time, and failed to pay attention to him.

Matt Attack wins once I'm gone. Once I get lynched today, he wins.

I disappear. ( -1 player from the game )
Matt Attack disappears. ( -1 player from the game )

The problem is, we're both Neutrals. We're not Cultists. Every non-Cult body in the game is a meat shield against the Cult's Win condition of outnumbering you. The Town will experience 2 deaths tonight if you lynch me, PLUS the possible 2 deaths by Cult night action and the possible 3rd party SK.

If you lynch me, Town has the potential to lose up to 4 bodies tonight, including me. Is that worth my Night protection blessing? I don't think so.

It would be best for Town not to lynch me. Just keep me alive, and you keep Matt Attack alive. You need to keep us around and not lynch us. It's better.

I mean 3 bodies, not 4 actually, because I'd be blessing you tonight. Unless a 3rd party has a unicorn double kill or something.

But still, that's 2 confirmed non-Cult deaths if you lynch me today, and 3 bodies total you'd be potentially losing tonight, if you lynch me.

If you DON'T lynch me today and lynch someone else, you still have the potential to lose 3 people total tonight, but 2 of them DEFINITELY won't be confirmed Neutrals like me and Matt Attack.

- By lynching me, you CONFIRMED lose 2 confirmed Neutrals (who, despite being Neutrals, still add to the anti-Cult head-count) AND 1 POTENTIAL Town to a possible 3rd-party tonight. A good thing, but enacted too early. Your investigative roles need a smaller player count right now, not extra time. It's still the early game; there are still enough Ordinary Tourists in the pool to soak up potential hits. It's too early for my power to actually mean something.

- By NOT lynching me, you POTENTIALLY lose 3 confirmed Town (1 possibly from lynch, 2 possibly tonight from Cult kill + possible SK) tonight, because the Cult, if smart, won't target me or Matt Attack tonight as we're wasted night targets. HOWEVER, it's only Day 2, and the loss of 3 Town is still entirely survivable, even if you lose more power roles tonight. In the end, your got votes will kill the Cultists. It's still the early game, despite the page count, and you need deaths of unknown quantities right now, not known Neutrals like me and Matt Attack. Town needs a smaller player count right now for their investigative roles to have a smaller pool of suspects, to increase the chances of them finding a Cultist. You need to allow the attacks to happen tonight. There are enough players still that the odds are still in your power roles' favour.

Remember, my power has more lucrative effect the smaller the head-count. Lynch me tomorrow, when the player count has decreased a bit more for my block power to mean more.

It would be better for Town to keep us Neutrals in play, and lynch another suspect today.

Please, there are only a few hours left, and this is the optimal strategy for Town. It's still the early game, and you need less unknowns. Town needs deaths right now. Me and Matt Attack are knowns, and it's too early to engage my power. Even your investigative roles need a smaller play count, and there are still enough players in the game to act as a buffer against their deaths. You lose more if you lynch me, because I take Matt Attack with me.

Bullshit. You're going to lynch me because I'm a "distraction"? You don't have Town's best interests at heart, Sorian. You need to read what I wrote above and understand how rational it is.

Your vote right there is a hurried push to get me out, and a desperate one. You're making a mistake.

Matt Attack will 100% leave the game upon my lynching. It's the same situation as johnnyquicknives being Han Solo/smuggler in the Star Wars game. He will leave with me.

Town needs to allow these deaths because it's still early game, your investigative roles need the smaller player count and there are still enough bodies to even the odds against them getting hit tonight. My power will be more effective on Day 3. Lynch me on Day 3.

Unvote me now, don't do this.

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[Sorian]

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Please stop spamming the whole page. To all of your bolded, on the flip side of that, allowing more deaths now just means our investigative roles might end up killed tonight. It's a double edged sword and the choice here is which side we want to be on. Yes, investigating a smaller player pool might hit a potential cultist easier but the investigative role doesn't need to hit a cultist to be useful. We are already arguing a small list of serious suspects, an investigation into one of them that shows them to be a tourist is just as beneficial because then they can hopefully sway us away from wasting our time on said person. I'm not going to put more tourists up for grabs tonight based on your plea here, they already nailed a doctor last night, I don't want to lose something else that we need before we get good uses out of them.

 

[RetroMG]

Unless a 3rd party has a unicorn double kill or something.

Your suggestion for ONUW 3 has been noted.

 

[Blargonaut]

Stop letting Sorian be your voice of reason, because he's not.

Don't you realize who has more posts than I? He does. I'm not the final boss. He is.

He's done more to shape the direction of this discussion than I have. You're all letting him put words in your mouths. As my final plea, I have put forward a rational reason for keeping me alive, and you're all just standing about watching this one-on-one. All he's been doing is dismissing my role PM facts with pure speculation out of his ass. And you all accept that?Am I truly the bad guy here? When everything I've done is openly for the sake of the Town? It's the bystander effect up in here. Why don't the rest of you all comment on what I've put forward? Hmm?

You don't know anything about Sorian.

You know everything about me. Although it may not seem like it on the surface, every single one of my posts has been towards a pro-Town end. The end-game!

 

[ultron87]

Blarg, you already said that your PM says nothing about whether Matt is neutral or not. Nice facts you got there:

Also, I warn you all; Matt Attack has framed himself as an Town investigator/spy, but his existence was stated to me in my role PM, that someone was actively hunting me. The description in my role PM seemingly framed him as my antagonist, my opposite, literally stating that he is someone who should not be on this island, one who should not be part of this story and as someone who was out to get me from the very start. Since I am a Neutral pro-Town party, I am guessing that he is a Neutral pro-Cult individual, but I am completely unsure. Glean from that what you will.

 

[Blargonaut]

Blarg, you already said that your PM says nothing about whether Matt is neutral or not. Nice facts you got there:

How could Matt Attack possibly be Town or Town-aligned when his job is to get me, a pro-Town Neutral with the aim of getting 3 Cultists killed, killed?

That's not speculation. That's deduction.

 

[ScraftyDevil]

You're right, Blarg. You ain't the final boss at all.

You're more like that one miniboss that keeps poppin' up over the course of the game to cause trouble.

It's funny, ya know. At the start of the day you had the entire island at your mercy with your nonsensical riddles and puzzles, and now here ya are, literally beggin' for mercy so you might live to see another sunrise. I don't have anythin' against ya, but fact o' the matter is that we benefit more from the principle of certainty right now than we do any other day. For once, we know exactly what will happen once the lynch is over, and that's far preferable to takin' a spin on a roulette wheel with alla the numbers filed off.

 

[Sorian]

Your suggestion for ONUW 3 has been noted.

I want to be the magical unicorn.

Stop letting Sorian be your voice of reason, because he's not.

Don't you realize who has more posts than I? He does. I'm not the final boss. He is.

He's done more to shape the direction of this discussion than I have. You're all letting him put words in your mouths. As my final plea, I have put forward a rational reason for keeping me alive, and you're all just standing about watching this one-on-one. All he's been doing is dismissing my role PM facts with pure speculation out of his ass. And you all accept that?Am I truly the bad guy here? When everything I've done is openly for the sake of the Town? It's the bystander effect up in here. Why don't the rest of you all comment on what I've put forward? Hmm?

You don't know anything about Sorian.

You know everything about me. Although it may not seem like it on the surface, every single one of my posts has been towards a pro-Town end. The end-game!

I've actually exhausted any leads I wanted to follow today now that Nin has finally posted. I really have nothing else substantial to add for the day unless a new topic arises so, as you wish. I will not post for the rest of this day phase if the only topic is you Blarg, I've said everything I need to say on it and my vote is in the place where I think it should be. You may have your conversations with others without me chiming in.

 

[Timeaisis]

You're right, Blarg. You ain't the final boss at all.

You're more like that one miniboss that keeps poppin' up over the course of the game to cause trouble.

 

[Blargonaut]

Please stop spamming the whole page. To all of your bolded, on the flip side of that, allowing more deaths now just means our investigative roles might end up killed tonight. It's a double edged sword and the choice here is which side we want to be on. Yes, investigating a smaller player pool might hit a potential cultist easier but the investigative role doesn't need to hit a cultist to be useful. We are already arguing a small list of serious suspects, an investigation into one of them that shows them to be a tourist is just as beneficial because then they can hopefully sway us away from wasting our time on said person. I'm not going to put more tourists up for grabs tonight based on your plea here, they already nailed a doctor last night, I don't want to lose something else that we need before we get good uses out of them.

I'm not going to let you shut me up until you all fucking kill me.

20 people left.

Lynch me: 2 dead/gone Neutrals, only 1 possible Town death by 3rd party, because I'd be cock-blocking the Cult tonight. The Neutrals' identities were already confirmed. You gain nothing from lynching me, and allowing Matt Attack to fly away. You end up with only 1 death that gives you any usable info. The pool of suspects for Day 3 becomes 17, max.

Don't lynch me: 3 possible Town deaths (1 lynch today, 2 tonight via Cult and/or 3rd party). A smart Cult won't kill me or Matt Attack tonight because we're already known quantities. It's only Day 2. By allowing this maximum of 3 deaths to occur, you PHYSICALLY lower the pool of suspects to 17. No speculation. Just hard death. Plus with me and Matt Attack as known quantities already, that CONFIRMED lowers the pool of suspects by Day 3 to 15, max.

That Night 1 power role death was a fluke, a lucky strike in the dark by the Cult. It's Night 1, it couldn't be anything else. There are still enough bodies in play for the odds of another power role being killed tonight to be acceptably low.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

Stop letting Sorian be your voice of reason, because he's not.

Don't you realize who has more posts than I? He does. I'm not the final boss. He is.

You don't know anything about Sorian.

You know everything about me. Although it may not seem like it on the surface, every single one of my posts has been towards a pro-Town end. The end-game!

It was your choice to give up all the information on yourself in order to elevate yourself further instead it just backfired. Sorian will get his time, don't worry about that. These days the main character ALWAYS dies.

 

[Darryl]

This day is fucked

 

[ultron87]

How could Matt Attack possibly be Town or Town-aligned when his job is to get me, a pro-Town Neutral with the aim of getting 3 Cultists killed, killed?

That's not speculation. That's deduction.

So now it is deduction and not "role PM facts" that are "CONFIRMED" like it was a few posts previously. Riiiiiight.

Killing you is going to help the town. That is something that's been confirmed. Therefore it is perfectly reasonable that Matt could be a minor town role to sniff you out.

You say you've been pro-town this whole time but have also openly admitted that you didn't even have a good reason when you were telling us that Coppanova was a dire threat we had to kill today. That was a super self serving move.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

This day is fucked

Hello Darryl. You commented negatively about the closing moments of the game last time. Anything more to add?

 

[Blargonaut]

So now it is deduction and not "role PM facts" that are "CONFIRMED" like it was a few posts previously. Riiiiiight.

Killing you is going to help the town. That is something that's been confirmed. Therefore it is perfectly reasonable that Matt could be a minor town role to sniff you out.

You say you've been pro-town this whole time but have also openly admitted that you didn't even have a good reason when you were telling us that Coppanova was a dire threat we had to kill today. That was a super self serving move.

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I'm not going to let you shut me up until you all fucking kill me.

20 people left.

Lynch me: 2 dead/gone Neutrals, only 1 possible Town death by 3rd party, because I'd be cock-blocking the Cult tonight. The Neutrals' identities were already confirmed. You gain nothing from lynching me, and allowing Matt Attack to fly away. You end up with only 1 death that gives you any usable info. The pool of suspects for Day 3 becomes 17, max.

Don't lynch me: 3 possible Town deaths (1 lynch today, 2 tonight via Cult and/or 3rd party). A smart Cult won't kill me or Matt Attack tonight because we're already known quantities. It's only Day 2. By allowing this maximum of 3 deaths to occur, you PHYSICALLY lower the pool of suspects to 17. No speculation. Just hard death. Plus with me and Matt Attack as known quantities already, that CONFIRMED lowers the pool of suspects by Day 3 to 15, max.

That Night 1 power role death was a fluke, a lucky strike in the dark by the Cult. It's Night 1, it couldn't be anything else. There are still enough bodies in play for the odds of another power role being killed tonight to be acceptably low.

It doesn't matter what Matt Attack is. I die, he wins, he leaves. That's how this works. When you win, you leave. You fucking leave.

I was fucking with Coppanuva because he's suspicious. We all are. Every single post we make here is self-serving to our delegated roles.

 

[Darryl]

Hello Darryl. You commented negatively about the closing moments of the game last time. Anything more to add?

No. Maybe once people start chasing scum I'll swing back into making posts that matter.

 

[TheWorthyEdge]

Sorian...what are you doing? Why Blarg? I feel like we can cast our vote somewhere better this week and try and hit a Cultist with a vote. We KNOW Blarg isn't cult. He's Neutral. Why would we vote him out? He is in it for himself and obviously his death doesn't hurt us. Sorian, I feel you are trying to hard here. You've had so many votes here and I don't know if I trust you. I like you and your post count but I don't like how these posts look.

Vote: Sorian

You cant trust someone who puts the blame on everyone else my friend.

Blarg, what if we made a pact with you? We keep you alive and we get you as far as possible and you use your role to somehow help the town.

"But how will we know he's using his role?" We do have an investigator.

 

[Blargonaut]

The difference with me is, is that I'm immune to suspicion now. Matt Attack blew my fucking clothes off, and his own.

I'm made of pro-Town. Matt Attack's going to leave no matter what his role is.

Every single one of you are still wearing the shit you swam ashore on. I've been dangling since I landed on this beach and wringing the saltwater out of my three-piece suit since the start.

 

[Blargonaut]

*Matt Attack's faction alignment, not role, I mean

 

[ultron87]

A town role doesn't win early. If they do they aren't a town role.

 

[ScraftyDevil]

You guys do realize that just cuz we spare Blarg don't mean that he's not a target for the cult, right? Their goal is to reduce the population of non-cultists to zero, and if they can get closer t' that goal while simultaneously preventin' us from kill-blockin' them for a night, who's to say they won't bump him off right away?

 

[Sorian]

Sorian...what are you doing? Why Blarg? I feel like we can cast our vote somewhere better this week and try and hit a Cultist with a vote. We KNOW Blarg isn't cult. He's Neutral. Why would we vote him out? He is in it for himself and obviously his death doesn't hurt us. Sorian, I feel you are trying to hard here. You've had so many votes here and I don't know if I trust you. I like you and your post count but I don't like how these posts look.

Vote: Sorian

You cant trust someone who puts the blame on everyone else my friend.

Blarg, what if we made a pact with you? We keep you alive and we get you as far as possible and you use your role to somehow help the town.

"But how will we know he's using his role?" We do have an investigator.

Just when I thought my productivity at work would go back to normal. We vote him out for two reasons. 1) A neutral role is always going to be self-serving. As a secret entity, Blarg's role would have been very pro-town but now that we know about him and what his death brings, he has become much more self-serving in his endeavors. He still needs to kill cultists but he also wants to stay alive as long as possible. 2) The more obvious, I want him dead because we benefit from his death. We block the cultists from killing tonight while still having a third party that can kill. The night isn't a complete waste because that one death will still provide needed information.

What does the bolded even mean? I don't think anything about Blarg's role is a lie at this point. My suggestion is based completely on what we know is all of Blarg's role text at this point.

 

[Blargonaut]

Sorian...what are you doing? Why Blarg? I feel like we can cast our vote somewhere better this week and try and hit a Cultist with a vote. We KNOW Blarg isn't cult. He's Neutral. Why would we vote him out? He is in it for himself and obviously his death doesn't hurt us. Sorian, I feel you are trying to hard here. You've had so many votes here and I don't know if I trust you. I like you and your post count but I don't like how these posts look.

Vote: Sorian

You cant trust someone who puts the blame on everyone else my friend.

Blarg, what if we made a pact with you? We keep you alive and we get you as far as possible and you use your role to somehow help the town.

"But how will we know he's using his role?" We do have an investigator.

I agree to be lynched on Day 3, should I survive tonight. It's up to you all when to detonate me with your votes. There's nothing I can do to stop anything, except try to convince you all of this plan with words.

Town, if you choose to keep me alive tonight, don't waste your investigators on me and Matt Attack. We're known quantities already. Use them on other major suspects.

That goes for any Town powers tonight. If you keep me alive, don't waste them on me or Matt Attack.

 

[Blargonaut]

You guys do realize that just cuz we spare Blarg don't mean that he's not a target for the cult, right? Their goal is to reduce the population of non-cultists to zero, and if they can get closer t' that goal while simultaneously preventin' us from kill-blockin' them for a night, who's to say they won't bump him off right away?

That is true.

However, if the Cult attacks me or Matt Attack tonight, they'll be wasting their nightly kill on known quantity Neutrals, not confirmed Town. Even though that reduces the non-Cult population, that's still an attack on two confirmed non active Town power roles. Cultists would be wasting their kill on knowns.

Town still keeps their actual Town population up if the Cult kills me or Matt tonight.