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Call of Duty: Black Ops III |OT| No Content For Old Gen

Haymaker got nerfed into obscurity. 3 shots to kill is 1 too many. You'll always lose to KSG/Argus users.

Yeah, the Haymaker sucks, one of the worst guns in the game now. Shotguns are tricky to balance; you want em to be useful, but the line between useful and obnoxiously powerful seems to be a very thin one.
 

GodofWine

Member
Yeah, the Haymaker sucks, one of the worst guns in the game now. Shotguns are tricky to balance; you want em to be useful, but the line between useful and obnoxiously powerful seems to be a very thin one.

I don't see why they can't be one hit kills from very close range, and always out gunned at any range.

From 8ft away, no SMG should have a better ttk.

Its almost like over a long enough timeline, every fun will be the same. With each nerf, something is going to rise to the top, and then it'll be nerfed. Let the guns be unique, they all have their shortcomings
 
I knew the Haymaker felt weak. It was a street sweeper but now it has been neutered pretty bad. Lost its personality. Why use that over the KRM or Brecci? It offers nothing now. It needs something to make it appealing. It was primarily competing with the Brecci and as such the Brecci felt redundant, but the nerf swung too hard without giving it some kinda personality.
 

Jblanks

Member
Speaking of camos, I hate that some of the headshot ones are really bad. Dante camo is just garbage. Policia is questionable. Bliss holds no candle to Cherry Blossom from BO2. I'm disappointed.

At least Gold is easier to achieve.



Yes.

Every game has bad camos, BLOPS2 included. Integer, Chameleon, 6Speed, Snow Job, Battle are all cool.
 
Haymaker got nerfed into obscurity. 3 shots to kill is 1 too many. You'll always lose to KSG/Argus users.

Yeah, the Haymaker sucks, one of the worst guns in the game now. Shotguns are tricky to balance; you want em to be useful, but the line between useful and obnoxiously powerful seems to be a very thin one.

I don't see why they can't be one hit kills from very close range, and always out gunned at any range.

From 8ft away, no SMG should have a better ttk.

Its almost like over a long enough timeline, every fun will be the same. With each nerf, something is going to rise to the top, and then it'll be nerfed. Let the guns be unique, they all have their shortcomings

The BRECCI is the new (pre-nerf) Haymaker. Seriously, give it a try and you'll be surprised it hasn't been nerfed yet.
 

drotahorror

Member
The BRECCI is the new (pre-nerf) Haymaker. Seriously, give it a try and you'll be surprised it hasn't been nerfed yet.

I used it for the first time yesterday and my first game of FFA I won. Had a few more games that were solid but couldn't pull off the win. I think it's mainly because I was in an argument against some piece of garbage who had this as his emblem:

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Creaking

He touched the black heart of a mod
anyone use c4? I dont think Ive seen anyone ever use it.

They made it such a late unlock, and it can't be mid-air detonated anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if it had further nerfs beyond that.

I get that it got annoying and overused in BO2, but they didn't have to both make it a late unlock and remove the air-detonation. The latter is enough.
 
Well thanks to 2XP this weekend I finally unlocked dead silence and hit Prestige 1. Running dead silence + awareness is so damn good, so I used my permanent unlock token on dead silence.

As for the Specialists, Ripper is far and away my favourite and with his extended melee it's quite easy to rack up 3/4 kills in pretty quick succession. Ripper will be my 2nd permanent unlock...if I get that far.
 

ponpo

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Well thanks to 2XP this weekend I finally unlocked dead silence and hit Prestige 1. Running dead silence + awareness is so damn good, so I used my permanent unlock token on dead silence.

As for the Specialists, Ripper is far and away my favourite and with his extended melee it's quite easy to rack up 3/4 kills in pretty quick succession. Ripper will be my 2nd permanent unlock...if I get that far.

Wasted your token on something besides the M8A7? Tsk tsk.
 

drotahorror

Member
Well thanks to 2XP this weekend I finally unlocked dead silence and hit Prestige 1. Running dead silence + awareness is so damn good, so I used my permanent unlock token on dead silence.

As for the Specialists, Ripper is far and away my favourite and with his extended melee it's quite easy to rack up 3/4 kills in pretty quick succession. Ripper will be my 2nd permanent unlock...if I get that far.

Yeah I prestiged, my first and only one this game, and grabbed dead silence as well. DS and Awareness are by far the 2 best perks in the game.

Did you not try out the purifier (flamer)? He's OP! and super fun. I haven't tried the ripper since you have to melee and my melee is the X button. Unless ripper just makes you melee with the r2 I have no idea.
 

level1

Member
I used it for the first time yesterday and my first game of FFA I won. Had a few more games that were solid but couldn't pull off the win. I think it's mainly because I was in an argument against some piece of garbage who had this as his emblem:
Hope you reported the asshole. The cod environment is already toxic enough without shit like this.
 

Xater

Member
I used it for the first time yesterday and my first game of FFA I won. Had a few more games that were solid but couldn't pull off the win. I think it's mainly because I was in an argument against some piece of garbage who had this as his emblem:

There is a report function for idiots like that. Just use that and move on.
 
Did you not try out the purifier (flamer)? He's OP! and super fun. I haven't tried the ripper since you have to melee and my melee is the X button. Unless ripper just makes you melee with the r2 I have no idea.

Nah I never bothered even testing him although I've been burnt by him plenty (pun intended). As soon as I unlocked dead silence Ripper became an absolute beast and I'm using the XB1 Elite controller so melee is mapped to one of the paddles so it's very quick.

There's just something extremely satisfying about sprinting up behind people and taking 3 or 4 of them out before they can blink, all with a melee or getting a kill mid-air with the extended lunge.
 

ponpo

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What is this little cult of M8A7? Tried it against bots and it didnt feel special, or is there a certain setup to roll with it?

It's quite accurate, shoots fast, and is pretty powerful. Feels like a 100% upgrade over the XR-2.

It's one of the few ARs I can sort of move around with and win close range fights against SMG users with provided I ADS fast enough. The hip fire is butt, but I think all ARs are.
 

Kalavaras

Banned
It's quite accurate, shoots fast, and is pretty powerful. Feels like a 100% upgrade over the XR-2.

It's one of the few ARs I can sort of move around with and win close range fights against SMG users with provided I ADS fast enough. The hip fire is butt, but I think all ARs are.

Quess I have to give it another go before prestige. My choice of weapon is still way too mood based Id like to find _the_ one to keep for, say, at least a day before going "meh this gun feels like shit all of a sudden".
 

ponpo

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Hotly anticipating the inevitable nerf to Argus range. What is this, MW2 1887s?

Quess I have to give it another go before prestige. My choice of weapon is still way too mood based Id like to find _the_ one to keep for, say, at least a day before going "meh this gun feels like shit all of a sudden".

Depends how you like to play I guess. If I'm running around I'll use VMP or Vesper and if I want to be a bit more careful, M8. If you like keeping a faster pace though I don't know if the gun will change your mind.
 

Hazaku

Member
is anyone else getting lag? First time since I bought the game at launch :/

Aus here.

I'm in NZ playing on both XB1 and PS4.

Since the latest title update the game literally only finds me 100+ ping games or servers. Especially when partied up.

It seriously feels like the game prioritizes dedicated servers over P2P hosts even if it leads to everyone on a shitty 3 bar 'green' connection with over 100 ping. I've literally only had a handful of 4 bar games this weekend :(
 

Randam

Member
Speaking of camos, I hate that some of the headshot ones are really bad. Dante camo is just garbage. Policia is questionable. Bliss holds no candle to Cherry Blossom from BO2. I'm disappointed.

At least Gold is easier to achieve.

Every game has bad camos, BLOPS2 included. Integer, Chameleon, 6Speed, Snow Job, Battle are all cool.
most of that stuff is so cringeworthy..

till mw2 I'm mostly running with no camo.
looks the best most of the times.

liked to use olive on some weapons in BO1.


but those shiny green ones, or pink and especially diamond.
and the fuck are animated camos?

This really pisses me off!

So many times last night I was shooting them first then, ping, I die from a headshot.

yeah, they really dropped the ball with high caliber.
 

Calabi

Member
I've had a go at using the Argus having fun with it after a ton of deaths the auto aim makes it really difficult though.

Trying to get a simple slide kill is next to impossible.
 
I know I'm LTTP, but the Sheva is AMAZING. I used it the last two levels before I prestiged and then proceeded to use my permanent unlock on it once I actually prestiged. It's 2HK range is phenomenal, and I can't wait to unlock the Long Barrel so it can be extended even further.
 

farisr

Member
So played this last night, 2nd time I started up the game, 1st time was a week ago. There was a new update that needed to install.

Did the patch make some changes to the splitscreen? Because it seemed a lot better this time around. Last time, it just wasn't clear, like jaggies and just weird artifacting all over the place. This time around it was more in line with the splitscreen from AW (which was fine). I really didn't find anything in the patch notes that would indicate that.

I was disappointed last time I posted, but now I may actually get into the game properly. I have no interest in investing time into a multiplayer game that I can't play when friends are over, and the way splitscreen was last week, it was pretty much unplayable. So yeah, this is good news for me. Maybe my eyes have just adjusted, LOL.

I hope they eventually address the huge amount of pop-in in one of the maps has (at least in splitscreen). That was distracting, a bad problem to have for a game like COD where you're looking for any small movements in the distance.
 
anyone use c4? I dont think Ive seen anyone ever use it.

I've used it. You can't blow it up in the air anymore :( it needs to land on something so it can activate.

Even with that change, I still like it. When someone is near it, something will pop up on your screen. So let's say you're playing domination and you put a C4 on A flag. Someone is trying to take it, you get the notice, and boom! No more A flag for them (unless they have flak jacket lol).

C4 is something I would use on a shotgun class. Just to be extra annoying.

When I first started playing dead ops arcade 2, I was disappointed to see that there werent any leaderboards..but actually there are! They are in the zombie section of the leaderboards. Never thought to check there until one of my friends told me about it. So that makes me want to play now.
 

drotahorror

Member
Got max level on all shotguns now.

Some mini-reviews

KRM-262 - Great at point blank, okay to terrible from close-mid. Too inconsistent to use for my tastes. Necessary attachments - extended mags, rapid fire, and long barrel. I prefer to hip-fire.

205 BRECCI - Probably the best all around shotgun. The description says 2 shot kill. No. Maybe point blank, otherwise you're looking at 3-4 hit for almost all ranges. Necessary attachments - extended mags, rapid fire, and long barrel. Hip fire is king, I think this gun blows when ADS.

Haymaker 12 - Honestly haven't used it much since nerf but it still seems fine. I would use this and the Brecci for team games. Necessary attachments - extended mags, rapid fire, and long barrel. Hip-fire all day.

Argus - Easily my favorite shotgun. 1 hit kill at any range as long as you are ADS. Range is similar to the Brecci but probably a bit further, maybe quite a bit. DO NOT hip-fire this gun or you will get a hit marker, even at close range. Only hip fire at point blank. Necessary attachments - quickdraw.
*Haven't had enough time with this gun so I haven't tested it out much with rapid fire. While leveling it I'd been running quickdraw and stock. Stock may be necessary for it but I'm not sure. I plan on running quickdraw, rapid fire and long barrel. I may need stock though I don't know.
 
If anything needs to be nerfed it needs to be snipers. I cannot believe that it is actually viable and practically encouraged to run around with a sniper rifle and quick scope. That shit needs to stop.

Example. Watch this clip and tell me its not bullshit.

I was in a game full of that shit. The auto-aim lock on for quickscoping isn't just an unfair advantage, I almost hesitate to call it cheating. And it's not just from short range, either. On that same map I was on top of the platform behind the house where the robot has to get to, and there were people on the rocky path to the left of the house quickscoping with ease. They had 3-4 guys there and it was practically impossible to kill them because if you got anywhere close it was just a quick LT+RT and you're dead. No skill needed.

At times they were getting kills from like 40-50 meters.

How on earth hasn't this shit been stopped?
 

Xeilyn

Member
If anything needs to be nerfed it needs to be snipers. I cannot believe that it is actually viable and practically encouraged to run around with a sniper rifle and quick scope. That shit needs to stop.

Example. Watch this clip and tell me its not bullshit.

I was in a game full of that shit. The auto-aim lock on for quickscoping isn't just an unfair advantage, I almost hesitate to call it cheating. And it's not just from short range, either. On that same map I was on top of the platform behind the house where the robot has to get to, and there were people on the rocky path to the left of the house quickscoping with ease. They had 3-4 guys there and it was practically impossible to kill them because if you got anywhere close it was just a quick LT+RT and you're dead. No skill needed.

At times they were getting kills from like 40-50 meters.

How on earth hasn't this shit been stopped?
They have removed the aim-assist on sniper rifles though
 
Every game has bad camos, BLOPS2 included. Integer, Chameleon, 6Speed, Snow Job, Battle are all cool.

Eh, don't feel for Snow Job and 6Speed is the one I hate the most.

All of MW2's camos I was cool with. They were colorful while still having some kind of quality control to them. Same with CoD4 and BO1 for the most part. It was MW3 that started the trend of a good amount of camos that are just terrible.

SMGs need to be buffed?
What the actual fuck?

Honestly, the only one that needs a buff is the Weevil now. Haven't tried the Razorback after the buff, but it had the cliche AR/SMG hybrid going for it already. Its a 4HK, but has the same RPM as the Kuda which kills in one less bullet, and brings nothing to the table outside of having a 50 round magazine.

Its completely garbage.
 
Can anybody help

Copy of this on Xbox on installing to 4%

Won't go farther

Try disconnecting your Xbox from the internet, install (should be relatively quick) and then when its done reconnect, download the update and you'll be playing.

Xbox installs take so long because they try to install from the disk and download the update at the same time, so installing it offline should solve your problems.
 
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