Collateral22
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They really need boot camp or combat training for some people. Guy on my team just went 5-62 in domination. Like how.
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Call of Duty: Black Ops III |OT| No Content For Old Gen
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Yaphett Kotto
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Tracker needs to be removed.
M8A7's firerate needs to return back to what it was pre-patch.
Dead Silence should make you quiet regardless of what perks the enemy is running.
M8A7's firerate needs to return back to what it was pre-patch.
Dead Silence should make you quiet regardless of what perks the enemy is running.
That second one is bullshit, sorry. I'd be super pissed if I was killed by a random headshot like that.
Hard-Wired counters that, you know. Along with a ton of other things.
it is still a stupid perk.
why is something like tracker and sixth sense in the game?
other question: fast hands or quick draw?
Yaphett Kotto
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Not completely and I still don't like how it easily punishes rushing or merely moving around in Search. Terrible perk.
Remove it or make footprints last for a very short amount of time is what it needs.
And Hard Wired is the only counter unless you know something else.
Don't see Sixth Sense much, but yes, another stupid perk built for aiding oblivious people who can't keep track of enemies on their own.
I prefer Fast Hands. Quickdraw is only useful for ADSn when standing or not sprinting. Fast Hands helps with ADS speeds after sprint and also gives you fast switching (I pick up enemy weapons alot).
I use both usually. That way it helps in all situations.
Nah, I meant that Hard Wired itself counters a ton of other things. Blind-eye and Cold-blooded look paltry by comparison.
im taking a little break from BO3 but will be back for XP weekend
EDIT: Driftor Long Barrel VS Supressor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT5T1HwzVjU
EDIT: Driftor Long Barrel VS Supressor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT5T1HwzVjU
Yaphett Kotto
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It does, but I rarely use it outside of Search because Tracker is dominant there. Fast Hands is more useful to me.
Some of what Hard Wired counters I'm okay with because they aren't that big of a deal, but in Seach? It's needed.
Whenever I hear him talk about the suppressor it just seems like an utterly useless attachment. It killing the range this way is not a good trade off.
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I've been experiencing this all day.
Not as extreme, but definitely noticeable. And I hate that I can kill people with on burts of the M8A7 sometimes, and due to lag, I need 2-3 bursts in some. I get 3-4 bar pings even, it just fluctuates which messes with everything. And for some reason, I find it very hard to find games in Mosh Pit. Ground War sometimes too. Like I have to wait 5-10 minutes to get in a match.
Crysis 2 MP did it best. It had a noob room of sorts where level 10s and below were piled in it. Every MP game should have something like that since it helps both the newbies and the veterans.
Pharo is legit. I really like the way the Kuda "feels" though.
Pharo has the fastest Time To Kill of any of the SMGs, its a monster
but my personal favorite is the Vesper
TheMrPliskin
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Vesper for me, the fast fire rate means that it kills people really quickly.
Yaphett Kotto
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Kuda.
Hard to say. In terms of being killed the most by it would be the VMP/Vesper; in terms of what I like the best it would be Razorback/Weevil, which especially the Weevil are probably the most underpowered by are still very viable. I don't like burst weapons (except M8 because its currently OP) so I have no comment on the Pharo.
PSYGN
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Say what? It's great against most corner campers or people that are running by below you. It's just another way to counter corner campers/soundwhores because chances are they won't be moving and giving up their position like your footsteps are. Just slide to a jump or jump shot around the corner even if they expect you, you'll often win the gunfight. It's great for rushing with and has saved me many times. You can't be against that unless you're against Awareness and all other visual/audible clues to player position.
This is the great thing about the game so far.
In AW it was the ASM1 followed by nothing.
Pharo is my favourite, but I love running around and hip firing the Vesper. The VMP is really solid, and very consistent, and I haven't used the Razorback/Weevil.
Yeah the weapons, including smgs, are all very viable
Just try them all and see what you like
Good Job Bob
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VMP
Yaphett Kotto
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I don't like how Awareness currently is. The relationship between Awareness and Dead Silence should always be how Sitrep Pro and Ninja Pro interacted in MW2. I think it shouldn't exist, but if there had to be a perk that increases footsteps, it should be that way. At least you have to have some map knowledge to utilize it successfully.
Sixth Sense also helps out campers with situational awareness so its not a one-way thing.
Weevil is garbage, unfortunately.
Kwansu Dudes
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If you suffer from lag and want to negate it with the best overall gun in the game, Pharo.
If you like killing fast and dying from having to reload, Vesper.
If you don't want the best SMG in the game and want a lesser version, VMP.
If you like getting hit markers and dying, Kuda.
If you like punishment and are into masochism, Weevil.
If you played the beta and experienced the razorback and want to try a useless variant of it, Razorback.
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I found a great OBS guide and I'm now able to record demos in 1080p/60fps without lag! So here's me going 51 - 6 - 28 in Hardcore Kill Confirmed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dtv6_F2d5rQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dtv6_F2d5rQ
Fast mags help with Vesper, an Unsilenced Kuda can do work (got me two motherships in the same game), and the Weevil is not as bad as most people say it is. The razorback is TE best SMG for long range.
-TGM
Yaphett Kotto
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Yall gotta stop running around with suppressors. Its not worth it.
Just run a loud gun and be aware of who is around you.
Just run a loud gun and be aware of who is around you.
ShadowsFell
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On a closer range map like Aquarium, the Dingo can actually be pretty damn good.
Kwansu Dudes
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I like the Pharo cause you don't need anything attached for it to be a beast whereas every other gun needs something to make up for its flaws.
Kuda is way too slow for my connection and I never use Suppressors as the negatives outweigh the positives.
Might be some exaggeration, but the Weevil sucks and is the worst among the SMGs.
I agree with Drift0r. The Weevil's strength is that it has no strength. Being average at everything can come in pretty handy.
-TGM
Kwansu Dudes
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Yeah if you're against a Vesper sprayer with 10% accuracy, it'd probably be useful then. I've gotten 100 headshots the quickest with it, but that isn't enough to cover its other weaknesses. I will say that spraying with a 70 round clip is loads of fun though.
Yaphett Kotto
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???
Its dramatically outclassed at everything except mag size. Driftor is high.
It has the same firerate as the Kuda, but is weaker. That already puts it behind the other SMGs save for the Razorback, but the Razorback at least has less recoil to deal with allowing you to run something that isn't a Grip on it. Literally, mag size is the only thing I see going for it. Kuda fits the average SMG much better than the Weevil does.
I don't see how people find any good in this gun.
Yea agree, I also have the 100 headshots but a buff is needed for sure.
I don't know. Sure, it doesn't have the best range, but it doesn't have the worst out of all the SMGs. The same can be said for damage, rate of fire, and pretty much any stat. It may not do anything the best, but it doesn't do anything the worst and is thus viable in many situations.
-TGM
Rbk_3
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Man I suck at this game. I had a 1.6 KD in Black Ops 1 and at level 25, I am currently at 0.77 and it only seems to be getting worse.
I think it may be the bigger TV, and sitting too close, but I can't really sit any farther back. Back then I played on a 40" about the same distance I am playing on a 55" now.
I think it may be the bigger TV, and sitting too close, but I can't really sit any farther back. Back then I played on a 40" about the same distance I am playing on a 55" now.
ShadowsFell
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I encountered this earlier myself.
Yaphett Kotto
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All I'm saying is that is doesn't do them well either. I use it from time to time and everytime I die or lose out on kills, I always think about how the Kuda, VMP, Pharo, or Razor would have gotten me that kill.
An average weapon would be something like the KN-44, imo. It excels better than some in close range, but it holds its own at mid to long range where other rifles would be a better choice.
It needs a buff, but I don't know where it needs a buff in since buffing max damage makes the Kuda a bit less useful and firerate just grays out the uniqueness of the VMP and Vesper.
Perfect, couldn't agree more... Other then razorback because I don't have it unlocked but this made me laugh and I've heard it's no where near as good as it was in the beta
Yaphett Kotto
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Don't understand the hitmarker part with the Kuda when it has the highest damage along with the Pharo. Also really good with Fast Mags.
PeskyToaster
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I love the weevil and the razorback lol. The best gun by far is the HVK though. All the benefits of an assault rifle and an smg in one.
I just got like 25 kills in one match with the weevil. You guys are crazy. Only guns I despise are burst guns. Shouldn't take one burst to kill.
I just got like 25 kills in one match with the weevil. You guys are crazy. Only guns I despise are burst guns. Shouldn't take one burst to kill.
Kwansu Dudes
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I haven't unlocked it yet, but that's what I've been reading as well so YMMV hehe
In my experience, it's very inconsistent for me and the only way to win against others besides jumping around and sneaking behind, is to use Rapid Fire. I lose 95% of head to heads against the faster shooting guns. I never use Suppressors either and have 24% accuracy with it so I can't be that bad.