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[Bumblebeetuna]

Clearly an IW caliber developer.

So any game not made by a AAA developer sucks balls now. Gotcha. :lol

Every developer can make a good game if the situation is right. See: Zipper. They made greatness like SOCOM 2, but then again they also made SOCOM 3, and the game your avatar is from, MAG. So it's not an exact science.

 

[VaLiancY]

So this means all the weapons used will be a collection of firearms from the 60s-80s?

Kinda neat.

This is one of the most appealing things. Since they're restrained by the era, hopefully this means less weapons and more weapon balance. No more UMP or M16 successors in terms of weapon behavior.

 

[Fuzz Rez]

Clearly an IW caliber developer.

They made Die by the sword so they are cool in my books

 

[dankir]

pass!

 

[I NEED SCISSORS]

Clearly an IW caliber developer.

You do this anti-Treyarch shit in every thread. World at War was better than Modern Warfare 2 - doesn't matter who made it. It's just another case of the pupil defeating the master.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

So? Why do they have to be the same caliber to make a good game? CoD4 had issues and so did MW2. In retrospective, World at War did a few things better than both games.

Unfortunately, it's a reskinned port of MW1. Not that hard to fix 2 or 3 things and capitalize on a game that sold over 10 million. :lol

So what? If bad dev makes a good game at the end of the day it's a good game which W@W is. Now piss off.

I didn't say they make awful games, I just said that they will never make games as good as IW.

Seeing as IW is also a pretty bad developer, I don't see how hard it is to reach their caliber. All they have to do is remake the same game with a new skin every time.

Yeah, a bad developer whose every game scored immensely high on metacritic and got a huge numbers of GotY. Treyarch, on the other hand... :lol

You do this anti-Treyarch shit in every thread. World at War was better than Modern Warfare 2 - doesn't matter who made it. It's just another case of the pupil defeating the master.

:lol

 

[lantus]

I'm going to be pissed off if I find myself wanting ANOTHER Call of Duty game, Modern Warfare 2 has already brought me enough grief.

 

[Dresden]

Unfortunately, it's a reskinned port of MW1. Not that hard to fix 2 or 3 things and capitalize on a game that sold over 10 million. :lol

So is MW2. :lol

 

[Neuromancer]

Unfortunately, it's a reskinned port of MW1.

What

Have you played it?

 

[Rahxephon91]

:lol

Fine allow me to crorrect that then.

IW is a crappy developer that has been remaking the same game, just adding stupid XTREME crap to it.

COD2 was the best one.

Yeah, a bad developer whose every game scored immensely high on metacritic and got a huge numbers of GotY.

LOL Metacritic. Of course thier games score high. They are fun for five minutes until realize your going to go through the same boring set pieces over and over again and with the same set up sense COD1. You then play the online that is instant gratification and requires no teamwork or skill. Then for some reason you will start over for no reason.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Unfortunately, it's a reskinned port of MW1.

:lol

 

[sweetvar26]

Fine allow me to crorrect that then.

IW is a crappy developer that has been remaking the same game, just adding stupid XTREME crap to it.

COD2 was the best one.

There is quite a difference between COD2 -> COD4.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

So is MW2. :lol

Yeah, IW should have done a much different game than the one they made the biggest amount of money in their history... Sounds like an awesome plan. :lol

Take a look at every sequel in existance... The difference is rarely bigger than the one we saw in the MW1 --> MW2 jump.

W@W? A clear rip-off. Activision saw they could make money even on junk such as CoD3, so why not make a number 5? Call of Duty sells. IW managed to make that a reality. Treyarch was just here to fix the years without an IW Call of Duty. Unfortunately, they are now supposed to lead the franchise, a feat they are not capable of doing. :lol

 

[VaLiancY]

Unfortunately, it's a reskinned port of MW1. Not that hard to fix 2 or 3 things and capitalize on a game that sold over 10 million. :lol

 

[NIN90]

So is MW2. :lol

zing

 

[Rahxephon91]

There is quite a difference between COD2 -> COD4.

Yes double shotguns.

OMG modern weapons is not a difference.

 

[Gospel]

Won't lie, I really like the name.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

Yes double shotguns.

Have you even played CoD2 multiplayer? :lol

The singleplayer is still the best WW2 campaign ever... And that was made back in 2005. :lol

 

[Kentpaul]

i look forward to getting this, completing the single player and never touching the multiplayer. pretty much my standard call of duty affair. i think i played two hours of mw1's multiplayer. but i love the campaigns for all of the games so far.

Hell no , holding a point in demolition to the bitter end just laying in grass slaugering the other time , girnades going of , airstrikes , Call of duty ftw

 

[The Omega Man]

What would GAF say if I tell you that I ended up enjoying WaW (single player and online) more than the constant bullshit that was MW2 online?

So I am going to keep an eye on this one, not a buy from me yet, will see

 

[GillianSeed79]

You do this anti-Treyarch shit in every thread. World at War was better than Modern Warfare 2 - doesn't matter who made it. It's just another case of the pupil defeating the master.

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It may not have been better than MW1, but it's better than MW2 IMO. The Treyarch hate is so annoying. People need to Get over CoD3. IW gets a free pass for the shit that MW2 turned out to be, but Treyarch is still damaged goods?

 

[Rahxephon91]

Have you even played CoD2 multiplayer? :lol

Yes. It was better since it didn't have all this berks and unlocks BS.

The singleplayer is still the best WW2 campaign ever... And that was made back in 2005. :lo

Don't how this is supposed to help you. Sense they IW just been remaking that sp since then. Just having stupid spawn boxes and cranking up the extreme set pieces.

Dosen't change the fact that I'm still planting explosives on whatever.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

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It may not have been better than MW1, but it's better than MW2 IMO. The Treyarch hate is so annoying. People need to Get over CoD3. IW gets a free pass for the shit that MW2 turned out to be, but Treyarch is still damaged goods?

Treyarch was damaged from the moment they were created. :lol

Yes. It was better since it didn't have all this berks and unlocks BS.

What the hell are you talking about? IW spawned one of the biggest franchises in gaming by making Call of Duty 4. And if it's a bad game because of perks and challenges, doesn't that mean that CoD5 is also a bad game? Does that mean that CoD2 (an IW made game) had the best multiplayer in any CoD game ever?

Don't how this is supposed to help you. Sense they IW has just been remaking that sp since then.

Because Treyarch made 2 WW2 games after IW. :lol

 

[sweetvar26]

Yes double shotguns.

OMG modern weapons is not a difference.

More than that, they revamped the multiplayer, still one of the best. Very well balanced.

Yes. It was better since it didn't have all this berks and unlocks BS.

Isn't that what everybody liked about COD4 in the first place? The way you unlock stuff as you level up?

 

[cameltoe]

Hell no , holding a point in demolition to the bitter end just laying in grass slaugering the other time , girnades going of , airstrikes , Call of duty ftw

wtf!

 

[VaLiancY]

What would GAF say if I tell you that I ended up enjoying WaW (single player and online) more than the constant bullshit that was MW2 online?

So I am going to keep an eye on this one, not a buy from me yet, will see

I'd give you a brofist if I could. I wish United Offensive was on the console to show people how great the single player and multiplayer was.

 

[Rahxephon91]

More than that, they revamped the multiplayer, still one of the best. Very well balanced.

lol ok....

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Yeah, IW should have done a much different game than the one they made the biggest amount of money in their history... Sounds like an awesome plan. :lol

Take a look at every sequel in existance... The difference is rarely bigger than the one we saw in the MW1 --> MW2 jump.

W@W? A clear rip-off. Activision saw they could make money even on junk such as CoD3, so why not make a number 5? Call of Duty sells. IW managed to make that a reality. Treyarch was just here to fix the years without an IW Call of Duty. Unfortunately, they are now supposed to lead the franchise, a feat they are not capable of doing. :lol

So there is a difference between MW1 and MW2 but not MW1 and WaW? :lol

I feel silly asking this question but uh.. you have played World at War, yes?

 

[JDSN]

CoD: Gaz and Ghost's crazy adventure?

 

[Neuromancer]

Yeah, IW should have done a much different game than the one they made the biggest amount of money in their history... Sounds like an awesome plan. :lol

Take a look at every sequel in existance... The difference is rarely bigger than the one we saw in the MW1 --> MW2 jump.

W@W? A clear rip-off. Activision saw they could make money even on junk such as CoD3, so why not make a number 5? Call of Duty sells. IW managed to make that a reality. Treyarch was just here to fix the years without an IW Call of Duty. Unfortunately, they are now supposed to lead the franchise, a feat they are not capable of doing. :lol

I've decided this whole thing is a subtle and ingenious trolling attempt.

 

[VaLiancY]

Treyarch was damaged from the moment they were created. :lol

It's pretty clear now you're a troll.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

I feel silly asking this question but uh.. you have played World at War, yes?

No, I'm just hating Treyarch because I don't have anything else to do...

 

[DodgyGeezerFella]

Treyarch was damaged from the moment they were created. :lol

Just like your mum with you *pow*

Spoiler

Sorry i had too

 

[sweetvar26]

LOL Metacritic. Of course thier games score high. They are fun for five minutes until realize your going to go through the same boring set pieces over and over again and with the same set up sense COD1. You then play the online that is instant gratification and requires no teamwork or skill. Then for some reason you will start over for no reason.

So you are saying you don't need skill to kill a person on COD online?

Also you only start over if you want to, that is your personal decision, nobody is forcing you.

You don't like the Call Of Duty's single player nor the multiplayer. Then why even come to this thread?

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[Lagspike_exe]

So you are saying you don't need skill to kill a person on COD online?

Also you only start over if you want to, that is your personal decision, nobody is forcing you.

You don't like the Call Of Duty's single player nor the multiplayer. Then why even come to this thread?

And than I'm the one who is trolling. :lol

I'm gonna hit the Halo thread when 343 make their first game. Should be awesome.

 

[NIN90]

Does that mean that CoD2 (an IW made game) had the best multiplayer in any CoD game ever?

Yes

 

[I NEED SCISSORS]

:lol

How about instead of laughing you explain why MW2 is better.

Here is why I think WaW is better:

1. WaW had a more consistent single-player campaign (which also had 4 player co-op, whereas MW2 didn't). It never resorted to retarded plot devices such as Russia invading USA, or CSI levels of technobabble bullshit when transitioning from one shitty plot device to another. WaW kept it all real, and even got a little emotional at times. It finished on a high-note too rather than some shitty cliffhanger that we'll never know the true conclusion of. Cleansing the Reichstag of Nazi scum was one of my favourite gaming experiences of 2008.

2. Better multiplayer. Thanks to the beta, Treyarch tuned it to near perfection, and continued to do so for months after release. Glitches were eliminated faster than in MW2, weapons nerfed more effectively, and..... you know, fuck the politeness: it didn't have any fucking bullshit like nukes, care packages or Javelin glitches. Infinity Ward just went nuts with the kill streaks and broke any balance COD4 had. Treyarch also communicated with the fans a hell of a lot better than 402 ever could ("hey, i'm just going to use Twitter rather than the website we already have!").

3. Better post-game support. Patches actually had the fixes that were promised. We got a free map (Makin Day). Then we got another 3 map packs designed by Splash Damage, which were actually pretty good. Then add on Nazi Zombies, which shits all over Spec-Ops and supports 2 more players - even that got new maps and actually had a little ARG storyline built around it. Treyarch simply supported their game better than IW did.

4. The soundtrack in World at War was also better. It was more original. They weren't afraid to fuse techno and metal with a World War II setting, and I applaud that because it ended up working tremendously. The Black Cats and Reichstag set peices even more awesome because of it. And of course there were more traditional orchestral pieces to compliment this. Frankly, Hans Zimmer ain't got shit on WaW- it sounded as if he phoned MW2's soundtrack in.

 

[Dresden]

MP40+Juggernaut was pretty much my only complaint with WaW's multiplayer, tbh. Tanks were easily dealt with after a while and dogs were only truly dangerous in Hardcore... but why would you play Hardcore?

 

[Kujo]

I loved WaW's soundtrack, I hope this one is even better

 

[The Omega Man]

How about instead of laughing you explain why MW2 is better.

Here is why I think WaW is better:

1. WaW had a more consistent single-player campaign (which also had 4 player co-op, whereas MW2 didn't). It never resorted to retarded plot devices such as Russia invading USA, or CSI levels of technobabble bullshit when transitioning from one shitty plot device to another. WaW kept it all real, and even got a little emotional at times. It finished on a high-note too rather than some shitty cliffhanger that we'll never know the true conclusion of. Cleansing the Reichstag of Nazi scum was one of my favourite gaming experiences of 2008.

2. Better multiplayer. Thanks to the beta, Treyarch tuned it to near perfection, and continued to do so for months after release. Glitches were eliminated faster than in MW2, weapons nerfed more effectively, and..... you know, fuck the politeness: it didn't have any fucking bullshit like nukes, care packages or Javelin glitches. Infinity Ward just went nuts with the kill streaks and broke any balance COD4 had. Treyarch also communicated with the fans a hell of a lot better than 402 ever could ("hey, i'm just going to use Twitter rather than the website we already have!").

3. Better post-game support. Patches actually had the fixes that were promised. We got a free map (Makin Day). Then we got another 3 map packs designed by Splash Damage, which were actually pretty good. Then add on Nazi Zombies, which shits all over Spec-Ops and supports 2 more players - even that got new maps and actually had a little ARG storyline built around it. Treyarch simply supported their game better than IW did.

4. The soundtrack in World at War was also better. It was more original. They weren't afraid to fuse techno and metal with a World War II setting, and I applaud that because it ended up working tremendously. The Black Cats and Reichstag set peices even more awesome because of it. And of course there were more traditional orchestral pieces to compliment this. Frankly, Hans Zimmer ain't got shit on WaW- it sounded as if he phoned MW2's soundtrack in.

I agree with you

 

[J-Rzez]

I was hoping they'd go back into the "War is Hell" type setting. Not some over-the-top cinematic craziness that was an absolute joke in MW2, which the only thing that got people to think it's SP was good was "no russian" that got notice from "controversy" in the media and that was it.

I liked the focus put into being a pawn in the war going on around you aspect. Snowmobile races where I suppose they have G18's standard equipment on that years model and stupid jumps. Now, while I consider the sniping mission in MW1 to be great, that's as far as I'd want to go with "Spec-Ops" missions.

Unfortunately, everyone's going for over-the-top action in these shooters anymore. Even SOCOM 4 is going to be plagued with this bullshit. I really enjoyed the more believable set pieces in that series. Now everything has to be all dude-bro, now with more beards.

The Artillery strike in WaW is still the best "kill streak" ever implemented seeing it coming in from the distance. I even thought calling in the dogs was a great concept. They're clearly a bit more creative.

What will make or break the game is the perks and weapon balance in MP. I wish more devs would take the skill tree route found in MAG rather than dial-a-perk, as it can allow more customization of your characters to your liking.

 

[MaxSteel]

i just want more maps for the first Modern Warefare, damnit. the series peaked there - i don't see it ever topping that.

 

[Emerson]

Oh for Christmas sake, who the fuck knew there was so much hate for MW2? I swear GAF will find a way to hate anything popular. How about we set aside all the criticism of plotlines and minute fucking details and just play the game. When doing that, it is obvious that Grenades at War was a garbage game, and MW2 is fun as hell. Before just now I have literally never heard somebody say that a Treyarch CoD was better than an IW one.

What a shit opinion.

 

[VaLiancY]

I was hoping they'd go back into the "War is Hell" type setting. Not some over-the-top cinematic craziness that was an absolute joke in MW2, which the only thing that got people to think it's SP was good was "no russian" that got notice from "controversy" in the media and that was it.

I liked the focus put into being a pawn in the war going on around you aspect. Snowmobile races where I suppose they have G18's standard equipment on that years model and stupid jumps. Now, while I consider the sniping mission in MW1 to be great, that's as far as I'd want to go with "Spec-Ops" missions.

Unfortunately, everyone's going for over-the-top action in these shooters anymore. Even SOCOM 4 is going to be plagued with this bullshit. I really enjoyed the more believable set pieces in that series. Now everything has to be all dude-bro, now with more beards.

What do you have against beards? But I agree with you, I enjoy an action set piece but I don't want it in everything. Jet planes flying next to the helicopters, throwing knives and other stupid shit. I'm not asking for super realism but at least leave something believable.

Oh for Christmas sake, who the fuck knew there was so much hate for MW2? I swear GAF will find a way to hate anything popular. How about we set aside all the criticism of plotlines and minute fucking details and just play the game. When doing that, it is obvious that Grenades at War was a garbage game, and MW2 is fun as hell. Before just now I have literally never heard somebody say that a Treyarch CoD was better than an IW one.

What a shit opinion.

Some of us aren't trolling like other in this thread but if you ask some of the people why they felt MW2(but still a good game) was inferior to CoD4, I promise you they would give you some valid complaints from the single player's absurd plot to the multiplayer's questionable maps, imbalanced perks and weapons.

 

[Wthermans]

Oh for Christmas sake, who the fuck knew there was so much hate for MW2? I swear GAF will find a way to hate anything popular. How about we set aside all the criticism of plotlines and minute fucking details and just play the game. When doing that, it is obvious that Grenades at War was a garbage game, and MW2 is fun as hell. Before just now I have literally never heard somebody say that a Treyarch CoD was better than an IW one.

What a shit opinion.

Balance in W@W MP was 10x better than MW2

That alone makes it a better game.

Plus it has unscoped bolt actions!

 

[Neuromancer]

Oh for Christmas sake, who the fuck knew there was so much hate for MW2? I swear GAF will find a way to hate anything popular. How about we set aside all the criticism of plotlines and minute fucking details and just play the game. When doing that, it is obvious that Grenades at War was a garbage game, and MW2 is fun as hell. Before just now I have literally never heard somebody say that a Treyarch CoD was better than an IW one.

What a shit opinion.

Joke post?

 

[Net_Wrecker]

Oh for Christmas sake, who the fuck knew there was so much hate for MW2? I swear GAF will find a way to hate anything popular. How about we set aside all the criticism of plotlines and minute fucking details and just play the game. When doing that, it is obvious that Grenades at War was a garbage game, and MW2 is fun as hell. Before just now I have literally never heard somebody say that a Treyarch CoD was better than an IW one.

What a shit opinion.

Are you serious? Have you PLAYED MW2 online? I highly doubt anyone is comparing the two for singleplayer campaign modes anyway. MW2 is a mess online, and goes away from everything that made CoD4 feel so good IMO. There's already a good list a couple of posts up so I won't get into it, but it's definitely not just GAF "hating" on MW2.

 

[todahawk]

I can live without a cover system. The only good cover system I've ever seen in an FPS was Call of Duty: Bound in Blood's, and I don't see any devs racing to emulate that.


You're right, they're better.

Say what you will about their back catalog, WaW was a good game.

Die by the Sword's controls could be frustrating but man that game was a lot of fun.

PLEASE. WITHOUT THE SNIPING SHOTGUNS. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

Oh come on, you know you love it!

 

[soultron]

EDIT: Fuck this thread. It's just going to be:

Why COD4/W@W is better than MW2
Why Treyarch is a shitty developer
Why COD is a shitty series
Why Resistance/Gears of War/X game is better than COD

Maybe when we get the reveal trailer and details the discussion will shape up. Until then, all we're doing is wasting breath.

 

[Dresden]

Oh for Christmas sake, who the fuck knew there was so much hate for MW2? I swear GAF will find a way to hate anything popular. How about we set aside all the criticism of plotlines and minute fucking details and just play the game. When doing that, it is obvious that Grenades at War was a garbage game, and MW2 is fun as hell. Before just now I have literally never heard somebody say that a Treyarch CoD was better than an IW one.

What a shit opinion.

You're so fucking ignorant--did you even play World at War? Treyarch took steps to make sure noob tubing and nade spamming got toned down. Rifle grenades were only available as a first slot perk on semi- and bolt action rifles, and you only had x2 frags instead of x3 in MW1.

And if you're talking about single player, welcome to every CoD game, dude.