Call of Duty: Black Ops site live, game releases Nov 9th

corkscrewblow said:
CoD3 is the worst game in the series for both sp and mp. WaW is just a copy of CoD4 but with a different setting. Treyarch blows.
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What about their other dozen or so games..or they all blow too?
That you don't like their Call of Duty games is one thing, but that the whole team blows..because of those 3 games is another. :p
 
corkscrewblow said:
CoD3 is the worst game in the series for both sp and mp. WaW is just a copy of CoD4 but with a different setting. Treyarch blows.
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W@W made improvements to the COD4 MP side that IW themselves totally ignored and MW2 was a worse game for it. Rifle grenades being the last unlock, taking up perk spots, 2x grenades instead of 3x, etc etc.

Treyarch made Zombies and continued to support it with great content every package. Spec Ops won't see the same sort of support (nor as much if it does happen), which is a shame since it's one of the greatest things about MW2.

You really don't know what you're talking about, so piss off. IW is dead which means if you enjoy COD in the slightest, you'll be buying this game. Admit it.
 
soultron said:
W@W made improvements to the COD4 MP side that IW themselves totally ignored and MW2 was a worse game for it. Rifle grenades being the last unlock, taking up perk spots, 2x grenades instead of 3x, etc etc.

Treyarch made Zombies and continued to support it with great content every package. Spec Ops won't see the same sort of support (nor as much if it does happen), which is a shame since it's one of the greatest things about MW2.

You really don't know what you're talking about, so piss off. IW is dead which means if you enjoy COD in the slightest, you'll be buying this game. Admit it.
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No, man. I will not.
 
I disliked WaW as a whole (ugh MP40s and dogs) but the maps they made were much more fun and better designed than anything in CoD4 and MW2.
 
greenjerk said:
Oh come on, you know you love it!
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Bitch. No. Everyone and their mother uses them as they're basically one-two hit sniper rifles. Esp. with "non-ADS buff" and "blindfire from cover buff" perks.
 
corkscrewblow said:
I don't know what I'm talking about because I don't like CoD3 or WaW? You're fucking stupid.
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Writing off W@W as a mere copy of COD4 is plain ig'nant. I prefer COD4 over any current gen CODs, and even I can admit that W@W had its merits.
 
Different guns, different worse maps, different killstreaks, a zombie mode that is fun but inferior to spec-ops and a way worse single player. They just took the great CoD4 engine that IW made and re-themed it.
 
World at War was my favorite Cod since Cod2. Hoping around time periods in Black Ops sounds alright and I'm sure they'll do something interesting with coop.
 
as long as it has 1 hit kill bolt action rifles (minus the scope) i will buy this game... 90% of my online time in W@W was using them in search and destroy....best fun ever!!11!!
 
Starfish_Oxide said:
as long as it has 1 hit kill bolt action rifles (minus the scope) i will buy this game... 90% of my online time in W@W was using them in search and destroy....best fun ever!!11!!
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the bolt action rifles were my favorite weapons in WAW...
 
So what's the deal with the engine, was IW forced into giving it to Treyarch? If that's the case then that's what bothers me the most about Treyarch's new CoD and WaW, it just seems so shameless to take someone else's hard work.
 
burgerdog said:
So what's the deal with the engine, was IW forced into giving it to Treyarch? If that's the case then that's what bothers me the most about Treyarch's new CoD and WaW, it just seems so shameless to take someone else's hard work.
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Activision took an engine they own and gave it to other internal teams to work with. Shock and awe. Would you be this annoyed if I told you that most of the Activision Valuesoft shooters ran on a variant of a Call of Duty engine too?
 
I AM JOHN! said:
Activision took an engine they own and gave it to other internal teams to work with. Shock and awe. Would you be this annoyed if I told you that most of the Activision Valuesoft shooters ran on a variant of a Call of Duty engine too?
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I also remember the PR team for the Quantum of Solace game bragging about using the CoD4 engine for the game... likely because it was the only thing they could talk about that would paint the game in any positive light.
 
I AM JOHN! said:
Would you be this annoyed if I told you that most of the Activision Valuesoft shooters ran on a variant of a Call of Duty engine too?
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Most annoyed, yes! Anyway, I think WaW's online modes/mp is better than MW2's so there's hope yet for COD7.
 
burgerdog said:
So what's the deal with the engine, was IW forced into giving it to Treyarch? If that's the case then that's what bothers me the most about Treyarch's new CoD and WaW, it just seems so shameless to take someone else's hard work.
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I don't see how using the same engine is a bad thing. It's not like they're coping the entire game, they're just using the same starting building blocks.
 
soultron said:
W@W made improvements to the COD4 MP side that IW themselves totally ignored and MW2 was a worse game for it. Rifle grenades being the last unlock, taking up perk spots, 2x grenades instead of 3x, etc etc.

Treyarch made Zombies and continued to support it with great content every package. Spec Ops won't see the same sort of support (nor as much if it does happen), which is a shame since it's one of the greatest things about MW2.

You really don't know what you're talking about, so piss off. IW is dead which means if you enjoy COD in the slightest, you'll be buying this game. Admit it.
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I'm a tenth level prestige player in COD4 and I can say with a 100% certainty that I will not be buying this game.
 
WAW was better than the piece of steamed shit that MW2 is. There, I said what most of GAF is thinking. Thank me later.
 
corkscrewblow said:
I don't know what I'm talking about because I don't like CoD3 or WaW? You're fucking stupid.
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cod3 had a reason to not be liked, especially since it was made in 7-8 months giving folks time to make other games.

Gamer @ Heart said:
Did they throw the Wii version to Vicarious Visions?

They where making some nice strides with the CoD4 port last year.
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Wii version of W@W and COD4 was made by Treyarch also.

corkscrewblow said:
Different guns, different worse maps, different killstreaks, a zombie mode that is fun but inferior to spec-ops and a way worse single player. They just took the great CoD4 engine that IW made and re-themed it.
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lil tidbit here, It wasn't IW engine. It's really a vamped up Quake engine :lol
 
Hoping there's a Wii version, I generally like FPS's more with the controls and Treyarch is capable of making DAMN good ports. COD: MWR actually looked great graphically. I hope they didn't cancel a Wii version of Black Ops because of MWR's sales. Last I heard it sold 500k in its first 2 months despite having no footage/ads and being a 2 year old port. Maybe they're bringing MW2 to Wii instead? (preferably with some fixes in gameplay :lol )
 
As stale as the Call of Duty franchise is fast becoming, it's like watching a trainwreck as it happens. I still buy it, even though I know I shouldn't. This looks like it could be a fun game. And it should be a nice distraction from Reach.
 
Yenrot said:
My Lai (sp?) would be a step too far.
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Why?

It's like people forget that when when all the cool WW2 shit was going on with their Call of Duties and Company of Heroes that a few million Jews were systematically exterminated.

If they really do end up making Tropic Thunder: The Video Game, it'll confirm that IW were the true holders of the Call of Duty (single player) name. As shitty as MW2's SP campaign was, at least they tried.
 
JdFoX187 said:
As stale as the Call of Duty franchise is fast becoming, it's like watching a trainwreck as it happens. I still buy it, even though I know I shouldn't. This looks like it could be a fun game. And it should be a nice distraction from Reach.
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And at the end of the day- isn't that all that matters? Some people around here need to realize that a game doesn't have to be quote unquote "AAA" to be enjoyable.

firehawk12 said:
As shitty as MW2's SP campaign was, at least they tried.
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Tried what? To be as offensive and in as bad taste as possible?
 
Neuromancer said:
Tried what? To be as offensive and in as bad taste as possible?
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To tell a story that used gameplay as a method of delivering narrative.

What did W@W have besides Jack Bauer?
 
Bumblebeetuna said:
Remove game ending awards, commando bullshit, akimbo bullshit, super weapons as secondary, lightweight = best CoD game ever
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Someone listen to this man!
 
firehawk12 said:
To tell a story that used gameplay as a method of delivering narrative.

What did W@W have besides Jack Bauer?
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It was fun, the campaign had co-op and you didn't have to massacre civilians. Those are 3 pluses in my book.
 
firehawk12 said:
To tell a story that used gameplay as a method of delivering narrative.

What did W@W have besides Jack Bauer?
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Four-player on/offline campaign, zombies mode, online stat tracking, a generally more balanced and polished online multiplayer than MW1's?
 
Fake co-op is almost the same as no co-op (look at Dead Rising 2 as an example). Heck, even Bungie did a better job of incorporating co-op into the story, and their engine couldn`t even handle something as simple as online matchmaking (which breaks ODST, but that`s last years news).

And instead of making you at least think about what you were shooting, you end up killing hundreds of Japanese and German soldiers. That`s better?

(Don't care about MP. After CoD2, it all went downhill).

I guess there was always tension about what "Call of Duty" meant because of the two studio thing. Now that Treyarch is basically the "owner" of the franchise, I guess I'll have to look for Respawn's next game for interesting single player.
 
firehawk12 said:
Fake co-op is almost the same as no co-op (look at Dead Rising 2 as an example). Heck, even Bungie did a better job of incorporating co-op into the story, and their engine couldn`t even handle something as simple as online matchmaking (which breaks ODST, but that`s last years news).
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Fake co-op? Could have fooled me. It felt like I was playing with a friend online, I guess that was an illusion.

firehawk12 said:
And instead of making you at least think about what you were shooting, you end up killing hundreds of Japanese and German soldiers. That`s better?
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Yeah it is, actually. There's a far cry between killing enemy combatants and massacring innocent civilians on some stupid pretext that you're an undercover operative.

firehawk12 said:
I guess there was always tension about what "Call of Duty" meant because of the two studio thing. Now that Treyarch is basically the "owner" of the franchise, I guess I'll have to look for Respawn's next game for interesting single player.
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Yeah I guess so... So I guess you can stop trolling here, move along, move along.
 
Haha, so if the rumor's true we'll have zombie vietcong mode? Hopefully, they have single player mode and co-op mode true integration working this time.
 
Neuromancer said:
Fake co-op? Could have fooled me. It felt like I was playing with a friend online, I guess that was an illusion.
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If your idea of interesting co-op is shoehorning in more people into a game designed for single player, then that's great. Maybe this time they'll let you play through the campaign instead of dumping you to a multiplayer lobby after every map as if you were just playing deathmatch with bots.

Yeah it is, actually. There's a far cry between killing enemy combatants and massacring innocent civilians on some stupid pretext that you're an undercover operative.
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There isn't really, which was the point of the airport level. But I've had this debate in the MW2 leak thread. :lol

Yeah I guess so... So I guess you can stop trolling here, move along, move along.
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These aren't the droids you're looking for.
 
I wonder when Activision is going to release the MMOFPS version of CoD for an overpriced monthly fee to make "moar" money off of gullible mainstream consumers....
 
I hope by "Black Ops" we're going to have a lot more operative style missions like the Spec-ops in CO4 or the british missions in the old CODs.
 
firehawk12 said:
IThere isn't really, which was the point of the airport level. But I've had this debate in the MW2 leak thread. :lol
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The point maybe, but it didnt make it any less poorly driven. The game was full of contradictory bullshit.
 
soultron said:
You really don't know what you're talking about, so piss off. IW is dead which means if you enjoy COD in the slightest, you'll be buying this game. Admit it.
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Wow, so assertive. Cute :D

I know it wasn't me you were arguing with, but dude, chill out. Can the game just be out already to end these obnoxious pissing contests please?
 
Loxley said:
Can the game just be out already to end these obnoxious pissing contests please?
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The sad thing is, it's only just begun. =\

Bumblebeetuna said:
Wow this thread is troll central now. Even got one in here hyping up Infinity Ward's storytelling abilities what the fuck :lol
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:lol

firehawk12 said:
If your idea of interesting co-op is shoehorning in more people into a game designed for single player, then that's great. Maybe this time they'll let you play through the campaign instead of dumping you to a multiplayer lobby after every map as if you were just playing deathmatch with bots.
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I find it hard to let piddly stuff like that get to me. Maybe it wasn't the smoothest implementation of co-op ever, but once I was in, I had a blast.
 
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