Can you feel it?? The system wars approach... Can GAF withstand the storm?

Nerevar said:
WELL MAYBE WE WOULDN'T IF YOU SONYBOYS WOULD STOP TRYING TO DOUBT THE INCOMPARABLE AWESOMENESS THAT IS XBOX360 BITCHES!

:lol :lol

I think you clicked on the wrong board. The All Caps, non grammatical, Crazy Brazilian 'O' board is downstairs behind the toilet. :D
 
JoDark said:
Xenon is going to fucking ROCK this fall, it will, I believe that we are all smart enough to know that. PS3 will basically be the same power

Can't you just feel the impartiality?
 
Xbox 360.

"There's now power greater than X...well, almost."

PS3

"Live in your world. Play in ours...again."

Revolution

"Who are you? Huh? Seriously, tell us who you are. You sure as hell didn't last generation."
 
peedi said:
Can't you just feel the impartiality?

Fuck impartiality. We're all partial to something. What I want is fair and reasonable discussion, from whatever your viewpoint may be, as long as you don't post meaningless crap just to derail or bash a given thread.
 
sonycowboy said:
:lol :lol

I think you clicked on the wrong board. The All Caps, non grammatical, Crazy Brazilian 'O' board is downstairs behind the toilet. :D

RIGHT NEXT THING YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO TELL ME THAT PSP IS BETTER THAN GIZMODO I THINK NOT LOL AM I RITE?


don't worry peedi - you're on my ignore list. But I'm sure I really missed out on some intelligent, thoughtful, insightful commentary.
 
GAF will never be the same as it was in 1999/2000. Mods were far less anal and far more lenient, some posters/threads back then would be banned/locked today on the spot. :P Nevertheless, come E3 this forum will explode. It will be FUCK AWESOME. :D
 
Hitler Stole My Potato said:
Can't you just feel the irony?

I don't pretend to be impartial. I see nothing wrong with console advocacy, provided it's merited. Sure, such justification is subjective in and of itself, but I still see nothing inherently wrong with it. I'm not a fan of the Xbox. Am I a "sonybot"? I don't think I am. It's not as if I perfunctorily defend Sony every minute I spend on here. There have been instances when I've handed out props to games exclusive to the Xbox, though it's rare I will -- and with good reason, as there aren't many quality titles on the system. I think someone who trolls a thread, offering up insubstantial arguments for the sake of just bashing [insert console manufacturer], deserves to be ostracized.
 
peedi said:
I don't pretend to be impartial. I see nothing wrong with console advocacy, provided it's merited. Sure, such justification is subjective in and of itself, but I still see nothing inherently wrong with it. I'm not a fan of the Xbox. Am I a "sonybot"? I don't think I am. It's not as if I perfunctorily defend Sony every minute I spend on here. There have been instances when I've handed out props to games exclusive to the Xbox, though it's rare I will -- and with good reason, as there aren't many quality titles on the system. I think someone who trolls a thread, offering up insubstantial arguments for the sake of just bashing [insert console manufacturer], deserves to be ostracized.


There are more quality titles on the Xbox than on the Gamecube. Take shots at that system. If fits your evil personality more.
 
Speevy said:
Well it is going to rock. Just like the Xbox does.

Maybe so, but that's not what I was getting at. Claiming the two will be in the same ballpark reeks of bias. Every indicator points to the PS3 being more than a few steps ahead of the Xbox180.
 
peedi said:
Maybe so, but that's not what I was getting at. Claiming the two will be in the same ballpark reeks of bias. Every indicator points to the PS3 being more than a few steps ahead of the Xbox180.

:|

The point of this thread was to see if we could somehow avoid or lessen the "system wars" mentality, not embrace it.
 
I give you a quote from 4 years ago that is already ringing true before the next gen has even started.

Qoute courtesy of Xmun of TXB
"Anyone that genuinely thinks they are part of some conflict with others based on console choice should be sterilized.."
 
jett said:
GAF will never be the same as it was in 1999/2000. Mods were far less anal and far more lenient, some posters/threads back then would be banned/locked today on the spot. :P Nevertheless, come E3 this forum will explode. It will be FUCK AWESOME. :D

Yep. In fact I believe it spawned the infamous 'Reactions to E3 sicken me' thread.

Right after he proclaimed that each tree in RRV had individually rendered leaves.
 
peedi said:
Maybe so, but that's not what I was getting at. Claiming the two will be in the same ballpark reeks of bias. Every indicator points to the PS3 being more than a few steps ahead of the Xbox180.


Why does it matter?

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It's all the same, really. You get good art in there and you've got a great looking game, right?
 
Roland Hood said:
Yep. In fact I believe it spawned the infamous 'Reactions to E3 sicken me' thread.

Right after he proclaimed that each tree in RRV had individually rendered leaves.

Ahaha, Marty Chinn and his infamous leaves...good times, good times...
 
See the thing is, I wasn't a mod/admin back when the PS2/XB/GC were unveiled and subsequently released. I also wasn't 1/50th as pessimistic when it comes to console alliances back then either.

So yeah, it is going to get worse when E3 hits and the Xenon or 360 is unveiled and the PS3/Revolution are discussed, and it'll get even worse come November when the 360 is released, and even worse next year when the other two are released. It'll get bad.

But I'm an admin that fucking hates fanboys now. So it's also going to get good.
 
The labels aren't thrown around evenly in the stupidity of these fanboy wars. You say you like the Xbox and a few of the games and don't troll it. Well hell you're an Xbot then. I guess enjoying the system is more than some can comprehend. I'm sure next gen will be the same. And SonyCowboy is a freaking pompom carrying cheerleader for one company. He is and to say otherwise means you have selective reading.
 
CrimsonSkies said:
The labels aren't thrown around evenly in the stupidity of these fanboy wars. You say you like the Xbox and a few of the games and don't troll it. Well hell you're an Xbot then. I guess enjoying the system is more than some can comprehend. I'm sure next gen will be the same. And SonyCowboy is a freaking pompom carrying cheerleader for one company. He is and to say otherwise means you have selective reading.
Shut the fuck up, you're one of the biggest fanboys on these god damn boards. Yeah, you're an XBot because you like "a few of the games", that must be it. You have no room to speak on this issue, no fucking room at all.
 
Mike Works said:
Shut the fuck up, you're one of the biggest fanboys on these god damn boards. Yeah, you're an XBot because you like "a few of the games", that must be it. You have no room to speak on this issue, no fucking room at all.

YEAAAAAAAAAAAH YEAAAAAAAAAA! SHTFU!!
 
Mike Works said:
Shut the fuck up, you're one of the biggest fanboys on these god damn boards. Yeah, you're an XBot because you like "a few of the games", that must be it. You have no room to speak on this issue, no fucking room at all.

:lol
 
CrimsonSkies said:
The labels aren't thrown around evenly in the stupidity of these fanboy wars. You say you like the Xbox and a few of the games and don't troll it. Well hell you're an Xbot then. I guess enjoying the system is more than some can comprehend. I'm sure next gen will be the same. And SonyCowboy is a freaking pompom carrying cheerleader for one company. He is and to say otherwise means you have selective reading.


yea im an xbot now. eventhough i almost hate on everything. Mike use to be such an innocent Nfan back in the day, it hurts me inside to read his post now.

futami is truly the most unbaised out of us all.
 
kpop100 said:
as opposed to about $900 for 3 consoles + 3x the cost in accesories and probably $60 games anyway...sounds like a deal :p

Well, not everyone has or will buy all three consoles. I don't have the freaking time to play all the games I want on the Xbox and PC, much less two more consoles. Besides that, I can only think of two games on the PS2 that I like and 3 on the Cube that I'm interested in playing. I'm sure others feel the opposite, and wouldn't touch an Xbox.

I'll see how it pans out nextgen, but I'm definitely on board for a Xenon. I will consider the PS3 and Revo depending on the hardware features, online execution, and games available.

In any event, the point is that competition is good for consumers; and monopolies generally suck for consumers.
 
I will admit I am a Sega fan all the way, but I stopped being a system fanboy when the Dreamcast died. Now I will go where Sega goes. If they support the X-box 360 the most I will go there. If they support the PS3 I will go there. If they support Nintendo the most I will go there. Nowadays I don't understand the fanboy for one system because all the systems have good games. Even I being a Sega fan, owned both the Genesis and the super Nintendo back in the 16 bit days, even thought I enjoy the Genesis the most.
 
sonic4ever said:
I will admit I am a Sega fanboy all the way, but I stopped being a system fanboy when the Dreamcast died. Now I will go where Sega goes. If they support the X-box 360 the most I will go there. If they support the PS3 I will go there. If they support Nintendo the most I will go there. Nowadays I don't understand the fanboy for one system because all the systems have good games. Even I being a Sega fan, owned both the Genesis and the super Nintendo back in the 16 bit days, even thought I enjoy the Genesis the most.

</definition of fanboy>

Back to the topic:
I prefer the end of the generations, where we all ridicule our consoles. The Dreamcast was weird though, it was always dissed when it was out but when it went under, it became acclaimed.
 
sonic4ever said:
I will admit I am a Sega fanboy all the way, but I stopped being a system fanboy when the Dreamcast died. Now I will go where Sega goes. If they support the X-box 360 the most I will go there. If they support the PS3 I will go there. If they support Nintendo the most I will go there. Nowadays I don't understand the fanboy for one system because all the systems have good games. Even I being a Sega fan, owned both the Genesis and the super Nintendo back in the 16 bit days, even thought I enjoy the Genesis the most.


For me, it comes down to simple time allocation. I work 40hrs/week and attend school part time. My gaming time is very valuable, so I had to make a decision this generation to choose one console that I liked the most. It came down to the Xbox and the PS2 at the time. I weighed the pro's and con's of the PS2 with a big library and the Xbox with better hardware, and better big screen gaming support. In the end, I went with the Xbox because I liked the hardware and I figured that the games would come in time. Luckily, for me at least, the games did show on the Xbox.
 
belgurdo said:
This place will be like Kabul in May. I suggest finding shelter and stocking lots of canned rations and ammo


:lol :lol :lol

And for some, no fallout shelter is complete without a nice variety of blow-up dolls. :D
 
peedi said:
I don't pretend to be impartial. I see nothing wrong with console advocacy, provided it's merited. Sure, such justification is subjective in and of itself, but I still see nothing inherently wrong with it. I'm not a fan of the Xbox. Am I a "sonybot"? I don't think I am. It's not as if I perfunctorily defend Sony every minute I spend on here. There have been instances when I've handed out props to games exclusive to the Xbox, though it's rare I will -- and with good reason, as there aren't many quality titles on the system. I think someone who trolls a thread, offering up insubstantial arguments for the sake of just bashing [insert console manufacturer], deserves to be ostracized.


You don't seriously believe the horseshit you type out, do you? You're one of the biggest trolls around here Futami and if you're not a "sonybot" then I sure as hell don't know what one is. Jesus, that whole paragraph is so fucking amazingly wrong on so many different levels that I wouldn't even know where to begin. Absolutely brain dead delusional.

But I'll agree that you need to be ostracized. You're spot on correct with that one.
 
may is gonna be awesome. and sonycowboy is just as bad as everyone else, he will be spinning everything about the xbox into negatives and ps2 into positives.


its the fun of e3.
 
The 16 bit generation was worse than this or any generation will probably ever be. It's just that the fights weren't on the internet they were in real life- which is probably what made it worse.
 
There's a difference between a fan and a fanboy. Fanboys typically have an agenda that they want to push forward. It's why they troll threads, or start threads that are negative in some way against their competition. A fan will just talk about what he/she enjoys and just basically stay in topics about things they enjoy. I hope people will reconize this difference when the time comes.
 
This gen has broken down my system bias. I started off somewhat anticipating the gamecube, and not giving a shit about any of the others. I found myself impressed by Halo and PGR and Morrowind, ended up taking over my brothers Xbox and enjoying the system quite thoroughly. Got my fill of the Cube launch with my best friends Gamecube, very disappointed with SMS and SFA. Waited until the platinum cube/gba player bundle and snapped one up for 150. Bought a bunch of games and love the system, but mostly for its excellent multiplayer games. GBASP quickly becomes my favorite system, play it nonstop. Moved out, bought my own Xbox. Love it. Got a DS a few weeks after launch, love that too. GT4 loomed on the horizon, and I love racers. Always hated Sony hardware, and only interested in the RPGs on the software side. I caved in and picked up a used one a few weeks ago for 70 bucks from a friend, GT4, a few used/cheap games, and have been playing it nonstop. Just got my DFP wheel tonight. It is definately a solid system with a huge selection of great games. I love all my systems, and I can see myself fleshing out my libraries for each for years to come. Definately looking forward to PSP, Xenon, Revolution, PS3, and upgrading my PC.

The one console future arguement is stale as hell, they all offer something unique that can't be done on one system. If you can't afford them all, then exercise some self control and wait.
 
captainbiotch said:
This gen has broken down my system bias.
Ditto. At the beginning I was pro-GameCube/Nintendo all the way, with 10% loving my Dreamcast. I asked for a PS2 for Christmas, as I didn't want to buy one, and enjoyed Smugglers Run and SSX, but it was still a 'foreign system'. The XBox I barely ended up buying on launch because there was no point in waiting 3 months for JSRF (which ended up sucking, and Halo which I was skeptical as fuck on ended up being one of the best games of the last decade).

Now I don't care. Part of me doesn't care about videogames as much, though I still like them. But systems mean shit to me. I don't care that the GameCube isn't online, I don't care that I have the fewest amount of games for the XBox out of any system I've ever owned, and I don't care that there's not one totally mindfuck amazing game for my PS2. I'll play Animal Crossing in the morning, fire up Fight Night at night, and play some Frequency when I get home from work.

I wish there was just one console now, because I rarely buy games (thank you new Blockbuster late fee policy!), and I'm not looking forward to shelling out the money for new consoles now.

But back to the topic at hand, I'll probably just ban sonycowboy and CrimsonSkies just before E3. And a bunch of other idiots.

It's fucking videogames, jackasses. Stop "spinning" videogames. That previous sentence is retarded, and it's your fault that it's retarded. Post about games you like and don't even mention the systems you hate. You and I will both enjoy this forum more because of it.
 
I support MS for a couple of reasons, and I would rather see them win than sony, does that make me an xbox? well you decide..

-If sony has 100% marketshare with PS4, since they're also a media company , they'll try to shove everything through the ps4 or whichever it is. Even though their hardware division kick ass, since they're also a media company, playstation will always be forced to bear whatever the media division comes up. They'll no doubt try to sell their own media more than other media companies. There's also no chance of them licensing PS4 tech to other companies since they make money on the hardware by producing everything themselves. In this case Sony will control the hardware, platform, the content and the delivery.

-MS just wants to have the platform. I'm sure they're not pleased with having to built the hardware themselves, something they traditionally do not. They create the platform and have other license it. If they get 100% marketshare, they'll just create a hardware standard and let all the CE companies produce their own version of it. They're not a media company at all so they have no intention of trying to aggressively shove media. They'll just provide a platform (which they already have in the form of xbox live) for downloadable movies and music and then transfer the control to others. They'll also encourage some Windows connectivity such as the media center stuff. I think it's a better win for consumers, they'll have more choices when it comes to hardware and content. MS will just control the platform, which is what they're all about really.

- Nintendo, I don't think they have a chance to win in the console/set top box business unless they come with something truly revolutionary and something that is not a gimmick, which I give very very low probability to. I just have a feeling they'll just come up with some new control method that is not too revolutionary, and continue to churn out Mario Zelda games on it. I hope they focus on the handheld space though, they produce the best handheld games.
 
This may be extraordinarily naĂŻve, but really, how many regular GAF posters don't have all three current-gen systems? Or don't plan on getting all three next-gen systems? This whole fanboy thing has been beyond me for several generations. I mean who the fuck cares about the hardware? Buy it all, then buy the games you like regardless of the system. It's all about the games, isn't it? I haven't had to choose since I got a job...like 15 years ago. Am I being some elitist, rich-ass prick? Are there that many single or dual system owners here, or do fanboys still exist who own all three? If so, why? WHY??
 
There is no doubt that this is the greatest videogame forum on the internet, I just wish it would have a little less trolling, but othervise I think the mods are going a great job. :)
 
I'm obviously a Xbox fanboy (running a Xbox centric site and all), but I certainly can appreciate games on other platforms. I just finished FFX and I will start playing Dark Cloud 2 tomorrow and I'm sure I'll enjoy it as much as FFX. I have a huge backlog of great PS2 games, and even since I'd rather play them on my Xbox where they would have had less graphical flaws (being the graphics whore I am...), they are still great games.
I'll get Xbox360 (EU and JP versions at least) at launch, and certainly PS3 as well provided it's got a better launch lineup than PS2. Getting a PS3 for me is guaranteed, especially now that it will have a great GPU for sure. As a graphics whore, I'm totally delighted :)
As for the next E3, unless Sony or Nintendo have a huge ace in their sleeve, MS will totally own it. Almost everyday I get a few more informations about 1st / 2nd and 3rd party games that will be unveiled there and it's just awesome. There will be at least 50 never seen before games for Xenon unveiled there, and so far (provided I only got informations for rather big and good publishers) they all have potential. I'm certainly biased, but I don't think there has ever been such a incredible unveiling. And yes, there are sequels, but also new franchise. The MGS Japan developed or published titles are all brand new franchise (obviously) and I can't wait to see what they will look like.
 
in the end, it's going to be like the "this version has better sparks" debates , but on a daily basis.
 
DCharlie said:
in the end, it's going to be like the "this version has better sparks" debates , but on a daily basis.
Burnout 3 takes a shit on your pussy Outrun 2 or Wreckless or whatever faggy racer you can come up with (except for the impending Burnout 4) every time.

The sparks...

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I can almost taste them...
 
I cant bloody wait for E3 for two reason. The first one is because I love games and E3 is the perfect occasion for any gamer. This E3, we are going to get to know more about the next gen consoles and a load of games for this gen, mainly Zelda. its also a great time to debate stuff on GAF and see the forums explode with fanboys and hilarious insults:)
 
DC charlie, its probably not going to be sparks, my bet is which barrels have better physics apllied to them when you push them over. As for system wars, we have this every time machines are released. Xbox is way more powerful than PS2, and yes it did have better technology but when push come to shoove theres not a massive difference between what PS2 games look like and what XB games look. The same will be true of XB360 and PS3 the differences will be minimal.
 
"DC charlie, its probably not going to be sparks, my bet is which barrels have better physics apllied to them when you push them over. As for system wars, we have this every time machines are released. Xbox is way more powerful than PS2, and yes it did have better technology but when push come to shoove theres not a massive difference between what PS2 games look like and what XB games look. The same will be true of XB360 and PS3 the differences will be minimal."

fuck barrels, i want magazine racks with uber physics.

in the game over screen i want to be able to push them over as i leave my initials next to my no doubt substandard score on what ever game i was playing.

Just a question, where does the extra "C" come from in my name? A few people do it, i'm just, you know, curious....
 
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