Samuraicop
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Seriously anything can happen I'll keep up with this to see where it goes
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Canadian businessman and reality TV star Kevin O'Leary is running for the leadership
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DJ_Lae
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That whole Learning Company fiasco is mindblowing. Mattel lost what...$3.8 billion or something on that whole transaction after two years?
Good time to work on electoral reform. Proportional Representation would guarantee this guy would never have a majority government.
Of course, the Liberals are dragging their feet on it because they'd like to hang onto their majority.
Luckily, our way of selecting party leaders doesn't involve millions of mouth breathers. You have to be a party member to vote, and Canadians don't tend to register with political parties. Political insiders may not favour him.
Trudeau had enough charisma to let the smears slide off him in key demographics.
Of course, the Liberals are dragging their feet on it because they'd like to hang onto their majority.
The Conservatives are looking at the success of the Republicans south of the border, and are contemplating hitting themselves in the head with the same baseball bat.
Luckily, our way of selecting party leaders doesn't involve millions of mouth breathers. You have to be a party member to vote, and Canadians don't tend to register with political parties. Political insiders may not favour him.
It's not that the Liberals had bad candidates, it's that they had non-charismatic candidates that couldn't survive the powerful and well-funded Conservative smear machine. The Conservatives were the masters of the political hit job, and would run a non-stop TV and radio smear campaign from the moment the Liberal candidates were selected until the day of the election, most of which occurred outside of the official campaign period. (Harper, himself, was a black hole of charisma.)
Trudeau had enough charisma to let the smears slide off him in key demographics.
gutter_trash
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cryptosporidium
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Speaking to my MLA, it seems leitch is in the lead in terms of the leadership race, I rather have learys neoliberal economics, which is also seen in some factions of the fed libs, than Leitch's social conservatism and ethnic nationalism
That and the refusal to do any direct attack ads really worked for the party's likability. Made the Cons and NDP campaign look like circuses.
Yup.
Yes, Kevin O'Leary strikes me as someone who doesn't give a shit about what goes on in your private life, what your skin colour is, or what your sexual orientation is. He's all business. (Although he's a bit of a creeper.) But, I imagine he's also the kind who will take advantage of whatever fear tactics he can if it benefits him.
The main difference between Trump and O'Leary is that Trump has made me cringe for 25+ years, and O'Leary is actually entertaining to watch. Watching him tear down a bad business plan on Dragon's Den was brutal, but very real.
Prax
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Trudeau is very lucky he is cute/attractive because appearances are all people really care about when it comes to the vast swathes of low info voters.
We'll be in trouble when the conservatives find a cuter leader to hawk their wares.
I mean unless O'Leary gets a complete makeover. Anything is possible, I suppose.
We'll be in trouble when the conservatives find a cuter leader to hawk their wares.
I mean unless O'Leary gets a complete makeover. Anything is possible, I suppose.
KernelPanic
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I don't know. I don't see social conservatism gaining a foothold in Canada. Harperbot 3000 ran on repealing gay marriage but it died a quick death shortly after. He kept most of his views to himself. So did Stockwell Day and Preston Manning IIRC.
O'Leary will suffer the same fate as Michael Ignatieff.
spiderman123
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O fuck no.
Easy, Harper's CPC went hard to the centre at a time when the LPC was dealing with the sponsorship scandal, political infighting (Chretien vs Martin, Dion vs Ignatieff), and a popular and charismatic Jack Layton whose NDP made greater strides with not only the Canadian left but with the Centre-Left.
Ignatieff being crowned as party leader (after his predecessor Dion IMO was set up to fail) didn't help matters as Harper's CPC easily crushed him in 2011 election (against Martin and Dion, Harper only won Minority Governments, vs Ignatieff he got a big Majority). Once Harper got his majority he went for the hard right, and that's when many Canadians started to wake up and see his lies and bullshit.
In general, Canadians like centrist governments, historically it's only ever been governed by Liberal-Conservatives, Liberals and Progressive Conservatives.
Harper's CPC while a merger between the PC and Reform/Canadian Alliance, is not the former and is just the Reform/Canadian Alliance. Basically they're Neocons-lite.
The old addage of Canadian Conservatives being more progressive than American Democrats only rang true in the past like with the Progressive Conservatives, but lmao hell no with the CPC.
Should be in French.
Je suis prêt, chienne! Did i do it right?
You're more qualified than O'Leary already!
I've said before on the subject that O'Leary as a president would probably end up similar to what numerous people, including many on this forum, fooled themselves into thinking Trump would magically end up as once elected.
I don't see him ending up as some far right wackadoo screaming "CANADA FIRST."
Indeed. Both are loudmouth TV stars, have big egos and are politically ignorant. But that's about it.
I know he's a conservative rich guy billionaire, but what other comparisons does he have to Trump? Is he also a fascist who can't string a coherent sentence together and is on video bragging about sexual assault and has a history of being a con man/racist/sexist? Trump being a rich reality TV star it's not the reason he's unfit for the presidency.
There are rumors about his antics with women: http://warrenkinsella.com/2017/01/kevin-ooctopus/
Kinsella is a Liberal, so take it with a grain of salt.
Yes but it's been news for some time
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1324927&highlight=o+leary
I'm not going to panic over this nonsense just yet. The conservatives clearly did not learn their lesson with the tactics they tried last election. This will go the same way.
O'Leary wouldn't be a Trumpian disaster, and he wouldn't be as bad as Harper either, but he would cut the fuck out of social services and anything else he doesn't see as profitable.
therealist
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Well I for one can't wait until he wins. Canadians need to share our pain.
ROUGE_BLOCK
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Why is he running and why do I think with all the complaints about Trudeau over this past year will lead to this bastard winning in 2019?
For the love of God conservative party, vote a better a leader in!
For the love of God conservative party, vote a better a leader in!
Buba Big Guns
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O'Leary is a greedy piece of shit who should be no where near the government, but he's not a scumbag dangerous neo-fascist like Trump.
As far as we know, O'Leary is pro immigration and free trade, definitely better than Leitch
As far as we know, O'Leary is pro immigration and free trade, definitely better than Leitch
BlackLagoon
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We already had a thread about this a while back. To quote myself from that thread, the voting system is a lot different from the one in the US Primaries and he needs to do a lot more than split the establishment and attract a small plurality like Trump:
The complaints about Trudeau are from people that didn't vote from him to begin with, part conservatives that are upset the poor and women and all those "other" races get some representation in government, and from sore loser mulcair supporters that don't realize he'll never be jack. He still has good approval, and depending on the poll you look at from last month, he was around 41-55%
BTW, there is shit like this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U79DoiC49r0 that makes him unelectable in canada. He said it was "FANTASTIC" that 3.5 billion people were poorer combined than the riches 85 people in the world. On tv, we have him saying this. dude is a monster
What an insult to 1/4 of the canadian population. I don't mind if you're not a quebecer and don't speak one lick of french but if you want to be a politician you better speak the damn language or you shouldn't have the right to be a candidate in a federal election. To make matters worst this cunt was born in Quebec and spent a lot of his childhood holidays in Montreal. What a fucking joke.
I'll be so disappointed if this candidate somehow becomes the leader of the conservative party.
Do your part and vote against him
This makes me recall the days of O'leary backing Bell/Rogers push to make usage-based billing a reality.
Watch him get humiliated by George Burger, the spokesperson for Teksavvy. Sad.
George Burger vs. O'leary
Watch him get humiliated by George Burger, the spokesperson for Teksavvy. Sad.
George Burger vs. O'leary
killer rin
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There was a large sponsorship scandal which downed the Liberal Party back in 2004. From there on, the Liberal party flopped around trying to rebrand itself without doing the hard work until 2011 when the NDP for the first time in history became the Official Opposition and in the process serving the Liberals their most dire defeat ever. This forced them to actually deal with their issues, rebrand themselves, elect Trudeau and come back in time for 2015 where they won a Majority Government.
It is also said that the Conservatives between 2004 and 2011 had only won Minority Governments and from 2011-2015 had also won their First Majority Government. The reasoning behind this being that within Canada, the Progressive vote tends to be split between the Not-Socialist NDP and the Liberal Party whereas Conservatives only have to vote Conservative and due to FPTP get enough votes to get passed the split NDP/Liberal count
TalkingToast
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Honestly, the guy seems a lot more moderate than some of the other choices, specifically Leitch who has been talking a lot about increased screening for immigrants, when Canada already has some pretty excessive screening procedures and have seen very few serious issues as a result of poor screening recently.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...mn-kevin-oleary-for-comments-on-military.html
Very weird to see this coming from a guy running for the Conservative party.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...mn-kevin-oleary-for-comments-on-military.html
Very weird to see this coming from a guy running for the Conservative party.
I'm not a canadian yet. I still have to wait a few months
Tell all your friends/family! Our votes matter even at this early stage, and we can have a say in who the CPC elects as their leader.
All of my friends vote liberal. Don'T know if they would go through the hassle of voting in the conservative primary.
Should be in French.
Je suis prêt, chienne! Did i do it right?
I'd go with putain for effect, but that's just me
If you register for the CPC you can vote in the leadership election to ensure that O'Leary/Leitch don't win. You can cancel the membership afterwards.
Everyone has a responsibility to stop those two.
Simon Belmont
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It's funny, progressives are split between the Liberals and the NDP, but the majority of the electorate splits between the Liberals and Conservatives. The distribution of the Canadian political spectrum is normal with a tail to the left.
Simon Belmont
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A man that praises the fact that the poor are poor and that it's good that they are poor, a man whos against talking about raising minimum wages cause he sees it as a tax on small businesses, a guy who wants to do away with healthcare as we know it and go to some messed up two tier garbage system is not moderate. Sure, while he might be ok with immigrants, hes all for destroying what we know for social services. The only conservative that even seems remotely ok is Chong. He has yet to say something mind boggling stupid yet
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BRITAIN: Brexit is the stupidest, most self-destructive act a country could undertake.
USA: Electing a reality show businessman as leader of the free world was a monumental mistake.
CANADA: Hold my poutine.
USA: Electing a reality show businessman as leader of the free world was a monumental mistake.
CANADA: Hold my poutine.
I'll do my part and try to motivate some of them to register and vote. Thanks for the info.
They don't say putain in Québec. I've been lobbying pretty hard in my social circle for the use of " merde " and " putain " but my efforts have been in vain
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