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Canadian conservatives drop same sex marriage ban from policy

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giga

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...in Canada. 🙃

VANCOUVER -- The Conservative party wiped a policy opposing same sex marriage off its books Saturday after an emotional debate.

A motion to delete sections of the party handbook supporting legislation to define marriage as being between a man and a woman was adopted by a majority of the over 2,000 delegates at the party convention.
 

xxracerxx

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Kinitari

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Don't you understand, the reason that they didn't win last year is that they didn't oppose muslims, abortion, and gays enough.
I feel like the conservative backlash last year has them shook. I was worried that they had gotten seduced by the tea party, but when they sort of dipped their collective conservative toes in that river, the current nearly dragged them under.
 

Sheroking

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I actually had no idea that Conservative party still considered it part of their policy.

Harper's government dropped it entirely after they lost the vote in 2006.
 
They're still anti-choice (their motion saying it was because they don't want sex selection-based abortion isn't fooling anyone), against assisted dying legislation (that motion carried pretty resoundingly), and didn't do anything to disavow the blatant racism from the last campaign. So good for them for giving up on a 10-year-old fight, I guess, but they're still regressive idiots.
 

NYR

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Congrats on accepting something that has been legal for 10 years. Typical Conservatives, looking to have their hand raised as heroes for doing nothing. 10 years too late.
 

Fuzzy

I would bang a hot farmer!
I'll remind them the policy is off their handbook the next time I hear their bigoted stance on it.
 
I actually had no idea that Conservative party still considered it part of their policy.

Harper's government dropped it entirely after they lost the vote in 2006.

Absolutely. Harper's strategy was to pay lip service to the religious conservatives who are dedicated to supporting a party that supports their religious agency even if they don't actually have a timetable to ban gay marriage, abortion, etc...
 

Sober

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Congrats on accepting something that has been legal for 10 years. Typical Conservatives, looking to have their hand raised as heroes for doing nothing. 10 years too late.
Gay marriage is old hat enough now that it's probably "tradition" now. They're just updating their values to reflect that.
 

Layell

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Stands about as much, the Conservatives running the party knew that gay marriage and abortion would be no-go in Canada. They finally had their majority for the four years and never really even touched it. Had they tried something so crazy the courts would smash it down and the Conservatives would have been blasted harder than Mulrooney.
 

Azzanadra

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I think this cements the fact that our conservatives are to the left of American democrats. Heck, even when they had the majority they dared not to fuck with that.
 
Get out past Edmonton and Calgary and you see that view change significantly.

You don't even need to go that far. This has more to do with generation than it does location. When the NDPs came into power there were quite a few people at my work, a very large post-secondary school in Calgary, talking about how "the gays" would be taking over now. Almost all were 40+.
 
You don't even need to go that far. This has more to do with generation than it does location. When the NDPs came into power there were quite a few people at my work, a very large post-secondary school in Calgary, talking about how "the gays" would be taking over now. Almost all were 40+.

Oh, definitely. I wouldn't be surprised if those same views would be found within industries having to do with the oilsands.
 
I think this cements the fact that our conservatives are to the left of American democrats. Heck, even when they had the majority they dared not to fuck with that.

This is nonsense. How is the Conservatives waiting until 2016 to say gay marriage is okay in anyway a sign that they're farther left than Democrats. Are the Democrats secretly anti- gay marriage or something?

Cut off Alberta and conservatives would never stand a chance to win the elections.

They always have the GTA.
 

Fugu

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I think this cements the fact that our conservatives are to the left of American democrats. Heck, even when they had the majority they dared not to fuck with that.
This may have been true many years ago but it's certainly not true any more. Harper shifted the Conservatives pretty far to the right, especially in the 2015 campaign.
 

exYle

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You don't even need to go that far. This has more to do with generation than it does location. When the NDPs came into power there were quite a few people at my work, a very large post-secondary school in Calgary, talking about how "the gays" would be taking over now. Almost all were 40+.

Mount Royal?
 
I think this cements the fact that our conservatives are to the left of American democrats. Heck, even when they had the majority they dared not to fuck with that.

Updating your beliefs because you lost an election ten years after a settled issue is a pretty conservative thing. The democrats actually want to be in favour of SSM.
 

Heshinsi

"playing" dumb? unpossible
Har har har.

Well good job Canada.
Nah, don't thank us for those cunts. The majority of the country votes left. The Conservatives realising that part of their bullshit agenda has long since sailed, doesn't deserve recognition of any sorts.
 

Azzanadra

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Nah, don't thank us for those cunts. The majority of the country votes left. The Conservatives realising that part of their bullshit agenda has long since sailed, doesn't deserve recognition of any sorts.

Well that's one way of looking at it, another way ("glass half full") is that our conservative party is more liberal than the counterparts in other countries (coughgopcough).
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
I think this cements the fact that our conservatives are to the left of American democrats. Heck, even when they had the majority they dared not to fuck with that.

The American Democrats adopted being explicitly pro same-sex marriage at the national level 2 years before it was made legal nationally in the US; the Canadian Conservatives adopted being not explicitly anti same-sex marriage at the national level 10 years after it was made legal nationally in the US.

There are a variety of dimensions you could compare parties on, but clearly if you're going by this, you won't get the CPC left of the Democratic Party.
 

Heshinsi

"playing" dumb? unpossible
Well that's one way of looking at it, another way ("glass half full") is that our conservative party is more liberal than the counterparts in other countries (coughgopcough).
I don't believe that the Harper PC is one bit more liberal than conservatives in other Anglophone countries.

The only reason it may seem as such, is that we live in a country where most of their social agenda wouldn't fly with the majority of the country. They're giving up not due to any new found moral enlightenment, but because it's an agenda not worth fighting. If the social conditions were right, you can absolutely believe they'd be all over it.
 

dejay

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For all the holdouts, come to Australia. We have a conservative party who refuses to acquiesce to the will of the majority of the population, even a majority of Christians and people who traditionally vote for them, in order to appease the far-right power factions within the party.
 
Stands about as much, the Conservatives running the party knew that gay marriage and abortion would be no-go in Canada. They finally had their majority for the four years and never really even touched it. Had they tried something so crazy the courts would smash it down and the Conservatives would have been blasted harder than Mulrooney.

They're still against allowing abortion. In fact, they just voted to keep it as part of their platform -- much like they also just voted to include a policy condemning "alternative justice systems", which is their way of not-so-subtly saying that Muslims are trying to take over.
 

Heshinsi

"playing" dumb? unpossible
For all the holdouts, come to Australia. We have a conservative party who refuses to acquiesce to the will of the majority of the population, even a majority of Christians and people who traditionally vote for them, in order to appease the far-right power factions within the party.
We'll trade you 2 species of your poisonous snakes, 1 species of venomous spiders, and some Dingos for our Conservative party. It may seem like you're getting hosed on this trade, but I assure you that your Conservative party will gain some toughness and grit.
 
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