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Capcom is working on a patch which will address some of the issues reported by players with Dragon's Dogma 2
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Moridianae
Member
I'll say good for them on rolling back the save change, but all of these issues are why I just...don't buy games anymore at launch, even games that are well received.
It's just better to wait 2-3 months for them to fire off a major patch or two to fix things.
It's just better to wait 2-3 months for them to fire off a major patch or two to fix things.
Schmendrick
Member
they did not..... there was no DLC about starting a new game.
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thief183
Member
You know that this is not true right? There is no dlc to start a new game. It is just misinformation spreaded by some YouTuber. Good job on looking like a sheep
Kacho
Gold Member
Some were speculating Capcom had to release this before the end of the fiscal year.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
They didn’t “have” to release bride the end of fiscal year. They decided to do it to please the shareholders. Meh…
Kacho
Gold Member
That’s just the reality of the business sometimes
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Not a thing.
Interfectum
Member
Even with the issues, this is easily the best game released so far this year. Put over 20 hours in this weekend with no issues (PC).
Shake Your Rump
Banned
1) you are spreading misinformation regarding DLC
2) you can start a new game by deleting your save file
3) if you don’t own the game nor plan to own the game, why are you writing this
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Hoping to get my copy today, hopefully the first patch is this week, still need to finish Ys IX so I can wait a couple of more days before starting DD2.
Little Chicken
Banned
I wonder what it looks like with RT turned off 
thief183
Member
True but it is a hassle to wait for the shader compiler every time.. is the a way to avoid it?
thief183
Member
The RTGI is strange in this game cause it makes the game looks bad in pictures but to my eyes it looks really similar to reality in motion so I love itI wonder what it looks like with RT turned off
Anchovie123
Member
Very happy to see RT and 30fps caps as options and not forced updates. Game will be very future proof for PS5 Pro & PS6.
nikos
Member
The game should only compile shaders on the first launch.
Schmendrick
Member
huh? The game only compiles the shaders once. I´ve seen the game start at least a dozen times and there never was that shader compilation window again.
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thief183
Member
Sorry, I'm talking about when you use the frame generation mod, normally yes, it is only the first time.
Plague Doctor
Member
Crazy what happens when consumers advocate for themselves and companies are forced to improve their product. It's almost like market forces work when people don't accept whatever slop companies attempt to put out. You get better shit.
Will this be a valuable lesson or will some people mindlessly defend anything their favorite IP, developer, or franchise puts out?
Will this be a valuable lesson or will some people mindlessly defend anything their favorite IP, developer, or franchise puts out?
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Never buy a game at launch. Just wait to see what day one issues there are and judge for yourself whether to dive in or wait for patches.
thatJohann
Member
This is why I no longer buy games on release date. They just ship them in beta stage nowadays.
Radical_3d
Member
If the game is selling well be assured that the companies heard nothing, no matter the negative reviews anywhere.
General Lee
Member
It's really beyond me how they could ship the game with no new game option. Bad performance isn't anything new, but literally not being able to start a new game until you've completed the current one is just wild. Did no one in the team or at Capcom dare tell Itsuno this is a terrible idea?
Doctor Hades
Member
I have played this game for 20 hours on my PC (i5-13600KF, 32 GB, RTX 4080, Windows 11 Pro) and have thoroughly enjoyed the sense of adventure and exploration the game has along with the entertaining (but sometimes frustrating) combat. What I don't like is the abysmal performance where the game goes from running at a decent framerate in the wilderness to dipping below 60 fps in the city of Vendworth and feeling like a Bloodborne sequel.
What makes the performance in the city so bizarre is that there aren't actually that many NPCs visible but they still fade in laughably close to the player character (often right next to them!). Most of these NPCs just stand around, some indoors are sitting down or sleeping, so what is this game doing that tanks the CPU so hard in these parts? It's like the developers are processing the NPC AI for all of them at the same time regardless of whether they are visible or not. When you enter a building with a simple room and just one or two NPCs then the framerate still remains low despite the fact that all the other NPCs are out of sight. Starfield arguably has larger crowds than this game and runs far better with less of a jarring performance hit between cities/towns and the open world. And Assassin's Creed handled large crowds of NPCs with no issues too years ago. The first Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen game on PC actually has NPCs "pop in" a bit further out than this sequel but doesn't manage to tank the CPU.
Given Capcom track record for fixing issues in their games then I will not be holding my breath for a fix for this CPU bottleneck in the towns. It would be nice if this was a coding error - someone set the NPC AI to "Process All" instead of "Cull & Process Visible" - but I doubt it would be that easy.
What makes the performance in the city so bizarre is that there aren't actually that many NPCs visible but they still fade in laughably close to the player character (often right next to them!). Most of these NPCs just stand around, some indoors are sitting down or sleeping, so what is this game doing that tanks the CPU so hard in these parts? It's like the developers are processing the NPC AI for all of them at the same time regardless of whether they are visible or not. When you enter a building with a simple room and just one or two NPCs then the framerate still remains low despite the fact that all the other NPCs are out of sight. Starfield arguably has larger crowds than this game and runs far better with less of a jarring performance hit between cities/towns and the open world. And Assassin's Creed handled large crowds of NPCs with no issues too years ago. The first Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen game on PC actually has NPCs "pop in" a bit further out than this sequel but doesn't manage to tank the CPU.
Given Capcom track record for fixing issues in their games then I will not be holding my breath for a fix for this CPU bottleneck in the towns. It would be nice if this was a coding error - someone set the NPC AI to "Process All" instead of "Cull & Process Visible" - but I doubt it would be that easy.
Bernardougf
Member
Yes because people still are stupid enough to pre order games and/or buy day 01 ... not excusing the company but at this point anybody that buys day 01 games know they are paying for the beta testing.They knew performance will be tight on platforms but still they released the game
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cash_longfellow
Member
First day in the 2020’s?
Doctor Hades
Member
Turning off RT might help the game run above 40 fps in the open world areas where the game is not CPU limited but it will not help with the performance in the cities. I know because the PC has the option to enable/disable ray-tracing and performance is still poor with or without it enabled. In the end I left RT on because it does make the game's lighting look significantly better in my opinion, particularly interiors, dark caves and at night with the lantern on. Otherwise the game looks very last gen without it.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I dont get why anyone blindly preorders or buys day one.
On launch day every gamer can skim 50 reviews and get tons of video and forum impressions, which includes bugs and performance. If everything sounds pretty good for their tastes, ok go ahead and buy it if they cant wait any longer. If it sounds sketchy just wait for a patch.
StueyDuck
Member
seems like by the time this game releases out of beta it will be cheaper too.
this is why waiting for games has become the pro l33t choice for gamers.
Topher
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That's a fix Capcom should have been able to put in themselves. Really makes a big difference in performance. I'm playing with that patch and the registry fix and performance is really not an issue any longer. Image quality is still not the best though.
nikos
Member
Still only did it the very first time I booted the game. You using PureDark's mod or something else?
Gojiira
Member
Could you be bigger drama queens? Performance dips but not to the point of unplayability so them improving it is nothing but a good thing, not them suckering day one buyers.
And to whoever said New Save files were going to be DLC, you’re a moron, that was never the case. They’ve simply heard all the whiners and are adding a option for multiple saves.
So much pointless whining. Game is excellent, has MINOR ISSUES that are getting fixed. Quit the hyperbole.
And to whoever said New Save files were going to be DLC, you’re a moron, that was never the case. They’ve simply heard all the whiners and are adding a option for multiple saves.
So much pointless whining. Game is excellent, has MINOR ISSUES that are getting fixed. Quit the hyperbole.
thief183
Member
I'll change back as soon as I get home, can't remember ( I think it is but not 100% sure)
