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[yurinka]

All the Japanese fighting game publishers will join into a video that will be streamed through all their Japanese video channels this August 1st at 9AM (Japanese time). Producers and directors of fighting games of each publisher will talk about the fighting game industry and eSports and will share news about different fighting games. They asked fans in their official Japanese Twitter accounts of these companies to RT with a quote the tweet where they announced that are attending mentioning them topics we want them to talk about there.

Every year they make some fighting game announcements at EVO tournament finals. EVO has been cancelled this year and it was scheduled to have its finals that same day, so I assume they joined to make in this stream the related announcements they had ready planned for EVO.

Panelists:

• Daisuke Ishiwatari (Guilty Gear series director)
• Kazutoshi Sekine (ARC System Works battle director)
• Akira Nishitani (Fighting EX Layer producer, co-designed Street Fighter II and Final Fight game with Akiman)
• Katsuhiro Harada (Tekken series producer)
• Motohiro Okubo (Soul Calibur 6 producer)
• Yasuyuki Oda (Samurai Shodown 2019 and KOF XIV producer, designer at Garou Mark of the Wolves, Street Fighter IV, Super SFIV and Street Fighter x Tekken)
• Nobuyuki Kuroki (Samurai Showodn 2019 game director, art director in this game and KOFXIV, was pixel artist in many Fatal Fury and Art of Fighting games during the 90s)
• Takayuki Nakayama (Street Fighter V director)
• Shohei Matsumoto (Street Fighter V producer, executive producer at SCVI, SFIV series, DBZ Budokai series, The Last Blade, different Art of Fighting and Fatal Fury games, etc.)
• Yohei Shinbori (Dead or Alive 5 and 6 director and producer)

Edit (post event):

It has been a round table where the panelist did talk about some fighting game topics suggested by the fans and made these announcements:

• Guilty Gear Strive releases this Spring on PS4, PS5, PC and arcade
• Guilty Gear Strive characters announced: Leo Whitefang and Nagoriyuki, next one TBA on Octobe
• Tekken 7 season 4 announced: new moves for all chars, balance patch, online improvements (wifi indicator, have been testing rollback), online 'Tekken Prowess' points
• SFV demo announced, to be released August 5th (all 40 characters for free during 2 weeks)
• SoulCalibur VI DLC character announced: Setsuka, releases August 4th
• Fighting EX Layer is running a rollback netcode beta and working on crossplay
• Samurai Showodn free DLC guest character announced: Gongsun Li (Honor of Kings)
• Samurai Shodown season pass 3 announced
• Bandai Namco announced regional weekend tournaments for Tekken 7 and SoulCalibur VI from September to December
• Many discounts announced for most games or DLCs
• Some SFV season V characters to be showcased August 5th with devs and guests as Kenny Omega
• KOFXV update wasn't ready due to covid, news coming very soon
• Dragon Ball FighterZ announcements coming this August

They agreed to make another round table somewhere in the future, and maybe make a tournament together.

 

[JTCx]

Dont let me down Daisuke.

KOFXV reveal happening?

 

[yurinka]

KOFXV reveal happening?

Seems likely. Until now they confirmed that they will share more Guilty Gear Strive info and seems they will announce the release date of the Fighting EX Layer rollback netcode update. I just updated the OP.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

With EVO out of the picture, it's pretty cool the devs still gathered together to give us some news. It likely isn't going to have anything tremendous announced, but it's nice that they're putting in the effort

 

[yurinka]

With EVO out of the picture, it's pretty cool the devs still gathered together to give us some news. It likely isn't going to have anything tremendous announced, but it's nice that they're putting in the effort

Yes, this stream is going to happen the same day they had the EVO finals planned. So I assume that all the announcements they had planned for EVO will be made here. I bet this time are going to be mostly new characters for their games and PS5 ports or PS5 enhacements patches.

 

[Enjay]

Dead genre communicating with sadomasochistic necrophiles. I predict they'll be announcing pieces of a full fighting game.

Dont let me down Daisuke.

KOFXV reveal happening?

Yes, Epic Exclusive as they're the only ones who'll pay SNK anything substantial anymore (this includes your average consumer.)

 

[DonF]

Dead genre communicating with sadomasochistic necrophiles. I predict they'll be announcing pieces of a full fighting game.


Yes, Epic Exclusive as they're the only ones who'll pay SNK anything substantial anymore (this includes your average consumer.)

Hahaha are you ok, dude?

 

[yurinka]

Dead genre communicating with sadomasochistic necrophiles.

The genre is far from dead:

This generation we saw the best selling fighting game ever (Smash Ultimate) in addition to MK getting its best selling game (MKX) and fastest selling game for this IP (MKXI), something that can also be said of Tekken 7 that reached 5 millions last December. ARC got their best selling game ever with Dragon Ball FighterZ and Street Fighter V one of Capcom's top 10 best selling games ever and their 2nd best selling fighting game (being SFII their top project) with almost 5 million copies sold and on its 5th year remains as one of the most daily played fighting games an receiving new content (which means that a ton of people bought DLC so the game made way more money than we can expect when looking at sales). Even SNK is back doing cool stuff.

It's fair to say that the genre now it's even bigger than ever. Specially if we look at tournament participation (outside covid) and audience.

 

[Tiamat2san]

Cool stuff!
I hope someone will translate what’s important.

 

[GenericUser]

Dead genre communicating with sadomasochistic necrophiles. I predict they'll be announcing pieces of a full fighting game.

Thankfully not true. I personally suck at fighting games but watching others play on a competitive level is super cool.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Street Fighter V one of Capcom's top 10 best selling games ever and their 2nd best selling fighting game (being SFII their top project) with almost 5 million copies sold and on its 5th year remains as one of the most daily played fighting games an receiving new content (which means that a ton of people bought DLC so the game made way more money than we can expect when looking at sales).

I thought for sure SFIV over its various releases still had more copies sold than SFV? Wouldn't be surprised if SFV has generated a lot more revenue however thanks to DLC.

Cool to see fighting game devs/pubs join up to do something like this. Who knows, if someone from AM2 happens to show up it might be a cheeky way of hinting at a new VF, one can only hope.

Still scared about what the push for eSports might do in generating self-censorship within the genre though, especially with the latest round of allegations and controversy that's mired quite a few big names in the competitive scene. Some dolt mainstream news type will inevitably try linking that misconduct to an influence from "problematic" content in fighting games, even though we literally have studies showing that video games have no subversive affect on the vast majority of gamers ever (or media in general, for that matter. Assuming the person consuming it is mentally sane to begin with).

 

[yurinka]

I thought for sure SFIV over its various releases still had more copies sold than SFV? Wouldn't be surprised if SFV has generated a lot more revenue however thanks to DLC.

We know SFV sold more units that every separated SFIV game and less than all SFIV combined, which lead us to think SFV has more unique users. But these comparisions doesn't make a lot of sense, because you needed to buy the other game to be updated, so each player would be counted several times. Now you can unlock a part of the season passes and the game modes/gameplay changes/etc are free.

It would make more sense to compare unique users or total revenue counting the different DLCs, season passes, rereleases and so on but Capcom didn't release these numbers.

I'd say SFV generated more revenue, because if not they'd have stopped releasing more and more characters, costumes, stages, season passes, re-releases and so on while ago, as they did in other games like Marvel Vs Capcom Infinite.

Still scared about what the push for eSports might do in generating self-censorship within the genre though, especially with the latest round of allegations and controversy that's mired quite a few big names in the competitive scene. Some dolt mainstream news type will inevitably try linking that misconduct to an influence from "problematic" content in fighting games, even though we literally have studies showing that video games have no subversive affect on the vast majority of gamers ever (or media in general, for that matter. Assuming the person consuming it is mentally sane to begin with).

Well, the press always loves controversy to get clicks and virtua signaling but I think these are two separate, unrelaetd topics, and I think to mix them would be too stupid and dumb even for the random woke unfair controversies. Even for people who aren't mentally sane these things are totally unrelated.

One topic, self-censorship we already saw in SFV or DOA6 modifying costumes, removing nipples, camera angles and so on to don't be 'too revealing'/sexy/etc. as response to some stupid woke criticism about 'problematic content'. It won't happen, but I'd ask the devs to avoid self censorship and forget this people. But I assume that if they did it recently they will continue doing selfcensor themselves.

The other topic is the misconduct in the competitive scene. I think with bans should be enough for the big, real issues. Then there are some stupid bans that I think are unfair like to permabanning someone to making a awful joke in his social media account. They should use a warning or minor ban for that. I think that over time we'll get a safer environment for everyone removing the importing issues from the scene and properly moderating the small issues. Recently many of these things hapenned and many of them were for things made years ago, so I think now more cases may appear because it's something that happens in society so by statistics some case will still happen like in any other big group of human beings, but I think that in the future they will happen less new cases, and there will be less remaining old cases to be reported.

So in the future I assume that always there will be controversies, but I think we'll see less regarding these two topics. So I think there will be less chances of seeing some dumb guy/girl trying to mix them

Cool to see fighting game devs/pubs join up to do something like this. Who knows, if someone from AM2 happens to show up it might be a cheeky way of hinting at a new VF, one can only hope.

Well, I'd bet they don't release a new Virtua Fighter because the AM2 staff, or at least a big portion of it, I think isn't at Sega anymore probably due to the decrease of the arcade market.

Looking at Mobygames, I see that out of 113 people listed as the VF5 Final Showdown for 360 staff, only about 30-40 guys worked together again, and were in Hatsune Miku games. I see that of the key guys of the game and didn't work on several Hatsune Miku games, one went to make Yakuza games, other one worked in Xenoblade games and BotW.

So I think it will be difficult to see another VF game unless they manage to bring back a decent portion of key people and put a lot of new people in the project.

 

[GrayFoxPL]

This is where Tekken 7 season 4 will be announced.

 

[SALMORE]

I hope they announce something about KOF 15 ! am tired of waiting

 

[yurinka]

I just updated the OP: Namco confirmed that they'll have there Tekken 7 and Soul Calibur VI new information and announcements and ARC confirmed a new character trailer for Strive.

 

[Kokoloko85]

Im ready. Gimme some next gen fighters

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

With EVO out of the picture, it's pretty cool the devs still gathered together to give us some news. It likely isn't going to have anything tremendous announced, but it's nice that they're putting in the effort

Considering they made these games thinking about ESPORTS with their slimy dlc practices rather than regular players they have to.

 

[yurinka]

Capcom just announced a 'Street Fighter V Summer Update' western stream for this August 5 where the dev team and some special guests will talk about the future of SFVCE including Season V character reveals, esports news and more:


So sounds like it confirms that in the August 1st Japanese stream we may see some of these announcements (at least season 5 character reveals and eSports related), and a few days later they may repeat them or expand them for a western audience. Regarding the characters, I bet they will reveal them in the Japanese stream and then in the western one to make a deeper explanation detailing their gameplay and having some good players playing them.

I'll add it to the OP.

 

[Matt_Fox]

Surprised not to see more hype for this, fighting games have historically been at the forefront of graphical, gameplay and animation excellence and August 1st could see some exciting next gen announcements!

Particularly interested to see what Team Ninja have to present after stating that Dead Or Alive 6 is no longer being supported. A DOA6: Ultimate Edition exclusive to next gen would be nice, or dare we dream of next gen Ninja Gaiden...

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Somebody tag me if VF is resurrected.

 

[DiddyInAHellcat]

They need to add Fei Long to Street Fighter V

 

[Tiamat2san]

They need to add Fei Long to Street Fighter V

They need to bury Street fighter V.
Make a new one which is good from Start and then expend.
SFV is better now but it was so bad when it launched that it has damaged the game in the long term. (Sale Numbers are still bad)
And the new game should launch on every console (even switch)

 

[yurinka]

They need to add Fei Long to Street Fighter V

I think it's very likely to see him -or if not, at least Rolento or Maki-. Because they tried to make each SFV character gameplay wise unique, and there's no rekka character in the game. Karin only can make rekkas when a specific VTrigger is activated, and Poison doesn't have normal rekkas.

So I think that they did that because they planned to add a character focused on rekkas somewhere in the future. And out of the possible ones, I assume there are 2 big candidates: Fei-Long because he's a SSF2 character. And Maki because is a woman and blonde. And they like to include for SFV a way higher percentage of blonde and female characters than we use to have in fighting games.

Particularly interested to see what Team Ninja have to present after stating that Dead Or Alive 6 is no longer being supported. A DOA6: Ultimate Edition exclusive to next gen would be nice, or dare we dream of next gen Ninja Gaiden...

I assume they will announce DOA Xtreme 4 or DOA7 for next gen, or if not at least next gen version of their most recent games.

 

[Barakov]

Gimme dat King of Fighters XV.

 

[SALMORE]

i wonder if Capcom will reveal all the five remaining characters at once or they going to spread them through out the year ?

X-Kira already confirmed that Rose is the 1st character !!

 

[Alexios]

SEGA

 

[I Love Rock 'n' Roll]

Somebody tag me if VF is resurrected.

It is somehow... not shure you'll like that.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

It is somehow... not shure you'll like that.

This hurts my hypothetical soul

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

Controversial opinion, but judging by the number of responses in this days old thread, I would say the fighting genre is still VERY niche. Not quite sure about dead, but excluding a handful of franchises, it doesn’t have much life in it. Besides Tekken 7 which is multiplatform, yet outsold by Tekken 3 on PSOne, Smash, SF5(?) and MK11, most fighting games have very small communities and are barely hanging in there or dead. DOA6, King of Fighters, Samurai Shodown, Granblue already, SC6, Guilty Gear, Undernight, NitroPlus, Killer Instinct, Injustice, BlazBlue, etc. Marvel vs Capcom Infinite, etc.

If fighting games were actually popular or profitable, then I assure you more developers would create them instead of the same 4 companies each generation. They are admittedly very complicated to develop, but if they are in demand, I’m sure they’ll find a way to create more. Why doesn’t Sega want to give us VF6, but keep investing in Sonic or even Yakuza?

Nice to see the developers getting together discussing the future of fighting games and hopefully we’ll see some exciting announcements, but I HATE that fighting games are essentially service games. Way too much overpriced DLC, season passes and incomplete games that significantly delay inevitable sequels. I actually agree with the above poster that we will probably see fighting games sold in pieces where we will have to buy them in parts like a combo at a fast food place. I’m just hoping the future of fighting games really improve and things change for the better, but I’m worried about the future of fighters to be honest. When it comes to predatory practices, they are probably the worst.

 

[yurinka]

i wonder if Capcom will reveal all the five remaining characters at once or they going to spread them through out the year ?

This is going to be the last SFV season and looking at what Ono said several times these recent months, SFVI won't be released until early 2023 or so. So I think that they will slowly announcing and releasing the upcoming characters.

I'd say they will release a couple, then another one for the Capcom Cup/December, and the remaining two next year at EVO.

X-Kira already confirmed that Rose is the 1st character !!

Where? I follow his Twitter, and I don't remember seeing Kira saying who were going to be the S5 characters, or even the 1st character.

Controversial opinion, but judging by the number of responses in this days old thread, I would say the fighting genre is still VERY niche. Not quite sure about dead, but excluding a handful of franchises, it doesn’t have much life in it. Besides Tekken 7 which is multiplatform, yet outsold by Tekken 3 on PSOne, Smash, SF5(?) and MK11, most fighting games have very small communities and are barely hanging in there or dead. DOA6, King of Fighters, Samurai Shodown, Granblue already, SC6, Guilty Gear, Undernight, NitroPlus, Killer Instinct, Injustice, BlazBlue, etc. Marvel vs Capcom Infinite, etc.

Yes, it's a relatively small genre. Yes, outside the 5 or 6 biggest IPs it's pretty niche. Smash, Tekken 7, SFV, MK11 and DBZ are the most played ones, and then all the other ones are pretty small.

But in almost all other genre if you remove the 5 or 6 most popular IPs it's also pretty niche. You can also say the same about FPS, Racing, JRPG, platformers, battle royale, open world games, sports games, survival horror, shmups, etc.

If fighting games were actually popular or profitable, then I assure you more developers would create them instead of the same 4 companies each generation. They are admittedly very complicated to develop, but if they are in demand, I’m sure they’ll find a way to create more. Why doesn’t Sega want to give us VF6, but keep investing in Sonic or even Yakuza?

Sega doesn't want to give us VF because in Sega Japan they basically only develop Yakuza and Hatsune Miku, and from time to time a bad Sonic game. Then they have Atlus and western stuff, mobile, pachinko and so on, or license their IPs to indies. But they seriously downsized their japanese development studio, and developments like Yakuza need a ton of work so they can release less games every year.

It isn't the most popular genre, but there's a more than decent market and a big potential there. Riot Games is working on a fighting game and made serious hirings, they will push hard the genre.

 

[SALMORE]

This is going to be the last SFV season and looking at what Ono said several times these recent months, SFVI won't be released until early 2023 or so. So I think that they will slowly announcing and releasing the upcoming characters.

I'd say they will release a couple, then another one for the Capcom Cup/December, and the remaining two next year at EVO.


Where? I follow his Twitter, and I don't remember seeing Kira saying who were going to be the S5 characters, or even the 1st character.

i saw it on Ernesto's channel Button Check

 

[yurinka]

i saw it on Ernesto's channel Button Check

I'm X-Kira's friend and just asked him if said that. It isn't the case, he never mentined that Rose was going to be the 1st Season 5 character.

As I remember, X-Kira mentioned they were working on Rose a lot of time ago, several seasons back, when in different times, from several sources, X-Kira found that they were working on certain characters. Most of them ended being released in the game. The last ones X-Kira said they were going to be included before they were announced were Gill and Seth.

A few other ones, like Rose, never were included. But it doesn't mean they will be Season 5 characters. In game development it's pretty common to make changes and cancel or reject stuff because they prototype it and don't like it, because they see that won't reach a certain milestone on time, because when they completed it they playtest it and people don't like it or see that doesn't fit well with another thing that on paper was supposed to fit, etc. This material sometimes ends in the garbage bin, sometimes gets rehased later in another future DLC or sequel. So who knows if or when they will add Rose to SFV.

TLDR: Years ago X-Kira noticed they were working on her (I saw one of the receipts), which means that may or may not add her to the game in the future. But X-Kira never specifically mentioned she was going to be the first Season V character.

 

[SALMORE]

KOFXV is going to be shown in the rumored Playstation State of Play next month according to this Leak ?!

 

[Bruno_Arrais85]

this leak is fake.

Regarding the Roundtable... I'm excited for some KOF XV info and some GG Strive reveals.

 

[yurinka]

KOFXV is going to be shown in the rumored Playstation State of Play next month according to this Leak ?!

This is clearly fake, please don't call leak to a random wishlist Reddit post.
But outside that, I think it's pretty likely to expect a KOFXV gameplay trailer for tomorrow, or at least some info.

 

[I Love Rock 'n' Roll]

This is clearly fake, please don't call leak to a random wishlist Reddit post.
But outside that, I think it's pretty likely to expect a KOFXV gameplay trailer for tomorrow, or at least some info.

I can't wait for that. I would love to get, at least, 2 KOF one in 3d and later the other in 2d on the NeoGeo engine, for PS5. But it'll only end with a 3d one i guess.

Why don't we have any leacks yet?

 

[Labolas]

Probably a GG Strive character reveal. KOF15 maybe. New info on SF5. New Tekken character reveal.

 

[yurinka]

Why don't we have any leacks yet?

We can have, but a leak is when someone we trust provides real unannounced insider info. A random post from a random user that seems clearly fake isn't a leak. In that case, the list is too long and they'd need a lot of time to make all these announcements plus some introduction, etc.

 

[Clarissa]

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Tekken 7 which is multiplatform, yet outsold by Tekken 3 on PSOne,

Tekken 3 was a revolutionary game when it came out. Tekken 7 is a tired Frankenstein of a game with loading times, is dlc infested and characters that share character models.

 

[yurinka]

Seems that Capcom will stream this round table on their English FGC youtube channel 'Capcom Fighters'. Since all the content they have in that channel is in English, I assume it may be the only stream that may not be Japanese only (who knows, they may add subtitles, English translation/comments or something like that):


I think it also means that is pretty likely that Capcom may make their big announcements (new SFV chars and some eSports stuff) in this Japanese stream and later in their August 5th English stream to detail and showcase these characters and info.

P.S.: I added it to the OP

 

[Manji Uzuki]

Looking forward to this. At very least we will see a new character for GG strive and some info for SFV season 5. Hope we get some KoF info as well.

 

[SALMORE]

i hope Arc shows the black samurai that they teased in the first trailer

 

[yurinka]

Additional English streams and date+hour in different time zones:

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

This is going to be the last SFV season and looking at what Ono said several times these recent months, SFVI won't be released until early 2023 or so. So I think that they will slowly announcing and releasing the upcoming characters.

I'd say they will release a couple, then another one for the Capcom Cup/December, and the remaining two next year at EVO.


Where? I follow his Twitter, and I don't remember seeing Kira saying who were going to be the S5 characters, or even the 1st character.


Yes, it's a relatively small genre. Yes, outside the 5 or 6 biggest IPs it's pretty niche. Smash, Tekken 7, SFV, MK11 and DBZ are the most played ones, and then all the other ones are pretty small.

But in almost all other genre if you remove the 5 or 6 most popular IPs it's also pretty niche. You can also say the same about FPS, Racing, JRPG, platformers, battle royale, open world games, sports games, survival horror, shmups, etc.


Sega doesn't want to give us VF because in Sega Japan they basically only develop Yakuza and Hatsune Miku, and from time to time a bad Sonic game. Then they have Atlus and western stuff, mobile, pachinko and so on, or license their IPs to indies. But they seriously downsized their japanese development studio, and developments like Yakuza need a ton of work so they can release less games every year.

It isn't the most popular genre, but there's a more than decent market and a big potential there. Riot Games is working on a fighting game and made serious hirings, they will push hard the genre.

Ah, I see. You have good points there. I just wish that more new blood emerged from the fighting genre especially with 3D fighters and was able to properly succeed instead of the same familiar handful of franchises over and over again. Yes, this does apply to most genres, but I just feel like we get much more new IP’s and risks from most other genres.

Seems like new IP’s from other genres can usually materialize and make some kind impact. It’s strange that there are only 3 major 3D fighters on the market out of thousands of games. Why don’t anyone even attempt to create 3D fighters anymore? They are probably more challenging to create then 2D, but strange how no one will even pursue the market. I also wish the predatory practices and GAAS would go away or at least be toned down, but we all know better.

 

[Sub_Level]

Bump so people don't forget.

 

[I Love Rock 'n' Roll]

Watch at 57:10


I'm not shure this is part of the talks.

 

[Clarissa]

I really want a Virtua Fighter 6 so badly =(

 

[SSfox]

MA BODI IZ REEDY

 

[Touch fuzZy. get BizZay]

I'm ready to get bodied